(MOD) Optimum Scholarum Cogitationis

[Scocou]

Chronica Regni sounds like really dodgy Latin. Perhaps Gesta Regnorum ("Deeds of the Kings") would be better?

Not sure what's dodgy about it, how would one correctly (if this is incorrect) conjugate "Chronicle of the Kingdom"?

first declension noun, nominative singular (fem.): chronica
second declension noun, genitive singular (neu.): regni

I have only this year begun to teach myself to read Latin, so please educate me.

Also, I will note this is Solo's artwork, and he is rather difficult to trip-up.

While I suppose it may be possible to do so, I haven't seen it yet...

I'll await your correction before adding this to the list of known issues.

[Scocou]

It's probably his save edit job.

I think so too, they look really easy to botch. Never even tried myself... maybe time to learn.

[pirro]

Not sure what's dodgy about it, how would one correctly (if this is incorrect) conjugate "Chronicle of the Kingdom"?

first declension noun, nominative singular (fem.): chronica
second declension noun, genitive singular (neu.): regni

I have only this year begun to teach myself to read Latin, so please educate me.

Also, I will note this is Solo's artwork, and he is rather difficult to trip-up.

While I suppose it may be possible to do so, I haven't seen it yet...

I'll await your correction before adding this to the list of known issues.

It seems to me that it's correct. Regnorum is gen. plural

EDIT: indeed, regonrum is gen. plural from regnum-i not from rex-regis. Of the kings would be regorum

[mkhuh]

? Hmm... well it's as I explained. For example, start as any nation and look at the fort level of their capital. There are a few things that can increase the fort strength by one or more levels.

Thanks I saw it do exactly like you said - when I built level 2 it became level 3. Just didn't actually see anything in my listed modifiers. It's all good regardless. Thanks.

[Scocou]

Thanks I saw it do exactly like you said - when I built level 2 it became level 3. Just didn't actually see anything in my listed modifiers. It's all good regardless. Thanks.

No problem, agreed it is not very clear or intuitive to understand. I think "fort 1+1" would be better, or at least an icon noting the modifier's effect. I'll look into adding this, but not sure if it's possible...

[Scocou]

It seems to me that it's correct. Regnorum is gen. plural

EDIT: indeed, regonrum is gen. plural from regnum-i not from rex-regis. Of the kings would be regorum

Agreed. Regni is correct genitive singular for English "of the Kingdom".

Not sure how one could see "Chronica Regni" as "really dodgy Latin", so I assume I am missing something.

Unless we get a clarification from Arakhor, I'm afraid that was a double-fail in his comment.

Admittedly, it is rather difficult to conjugate.

Cheers

[pirro]

Agreed. Regni is correct genitive singular for English "of the Kingdom".

Not sure how one could see "Chronica Regni" as "really dodgy Latin", so I assume I am missing something.

Unless we get a clarification from Arakhor, I'm afraid that was a double-fail in his comment.

Admittedly, it is rather difficult to conjugate.

Cheers

Easier than in german anyway

[Scocou]

Easier than in german anyway

No kidding! I studied German for two years in high-school and barely learned a damned thing.

Well, except that two people can have a conversation by only saying "morgen" back and forth five or six times...

And how to order a beer and some shashlik, or to proposition German lasses.

Phonetic spelling is great, but they negate that with some other obfuscations.

English is a nightmare too, not sure how you non-native speakers gain such a proficiency with it.

[Ikenos]

If you don't mind me butting in, Chronica Regni sounds pretty dodgy to me, too. Simply because the words you want are secondary meanings. I don't know where you found 'chronica' anyway. Annales Regum (not regorum) might work as the chronicle of the kings. 'kingdom' is pretty abstract and wouldn't generally get a chronicle, and if it did, it would generally be specified in terms of a city, family or people. (Annales Regni Aegypti or some such) But nothing really wrong with it, it just sounds weird

[chatnoir17]

The glossary of rulers in EU3 is rather Regesta for me. (Regesta Imperii for HRE is the source of this thought.)
In my opinion, a chronicle is rather a long, (sometimes) narrative writing. Just my taste, though.

[hansnery]

I get an error when I try to load EU3 with this new version.
It says:
File exception:
Exception in: discfile.cpp, line: 433. Description: Could not open file:
common\countries/Shirvan.txt
---
EDIT: Forget it, I deleted all and Installed in order again and it worked

[Scocou]

If you don't mind me butting in, Chronica Regni sounds pretty dodgy to me, too. Simply because the words you want are secondary meanings. I don't know where you found 'chronica' anyway. Annales Regum (not regorum) might work as the chronicle of the kings. 'kingdom' is pretty abstract and wouldn't generally get a chronicle, and if it did, it would generally be specified in terms of a city, family or people. (Annales Regni Aegypti or some such) But nothing really wrong with it, it just sounds weird

OK guys, I am not wasting any more time debating this, aside from posting the following;
"The Chronica Majora is an important medieval illuminated manuscript chronicle by Matthew Paris, one of a number of redactions of his work on English history. It is currently in Corpus Christi College, Cambridge. It covers the period 1240-53. It is his major historical work, but is less heavily illustrated per page than others."

And here;
"Generally a chronicle (Latin: chronica, from Greek χρονικά, from χρόνος, chronos, "time") is a historical account of facts and events ranged in chronological order, as in a time line. Typically, equal weight is given for historically important events and local events, the purpose being the recording of events that occurred, seen from the perspective of the chronicler. This is in contrast to a narrative or history, which sets selected events in a meaningful interpretive context and excludes those the author does not see as important. The term often refers to a book written by a chronicler in the Middle Ages describing historical events in a country, or the lives of a nobleman or a clergyman, although it is also applied to a record of public events."

It is the exactly correct definition, context and conjugation. Enough said? Sorry, but I need to spend my time on more important issues than debating centuries old Latin translations... Thanks for the input and interest nevertheless, but this "issue" is closed.

Cheers

[Scocou]

I get an error when I try to load EU3 with this new version.
It says:
File exception:
Exception in: discfile.cpp, line: 433. Description: Could not open file:
common\countries/Shirvan.txt
---
EDIT: Forget it, I deleted all and Installed in order again and it worked

Hooray, I got off easy!

Have fun, cheers

[pirro]

You can use Carmen too, but It'd seem weird (Carmen is close to Gesta-ae)

[Scocou]

You can use Carmen too, but It'd seem weird (Carmen is close to Gesta-ae)

I am more than comfortable trusting in Solo's judgement for these matters, he knows what he's doing.

I already spend ~12 hours per day addressing real issues with OSC, and am not eager to increase that to 12-1/2.

Don't take me wrong, all input is welcome, but occasionally I will need to draw the line...

Cheers

[hansnery]

Were decisions like "Form Iberia" removed?

[James The 1st]

Were decisions like "Form Iberia" removed?

Yes it was. Useless tags are being cleared out.

[Scocou]

Were decisions like "Form Iberia" removed?

Yes it was. Useless tags are being cleared out.

Correct, and correct. There are enough mods that provide this sort of "alternate history" type character already. While they are indeed fun, we're going to try to stick to nations/tags that have some established historicity. Nothing too strict mind you, but the really frivolous tags, or those greatly outside the timeline (1399-1789), stick-out like a sore thumb from the rest of the fairly plausible content. About as far down this road as I will go is the soon to be added decision in SapientHomo's "Aegean Crusade" module, which allows one to reform the Latin Empire. It will be left partly because I am reluctant to force any changes on Sapient's superb content, but more so because I think it's worth the concession for the oodles of fun and coolness it will add.

[hansnery]

I was going to try to form it with Iberia :P
But for the plausability of it, Dom Pedro I had plans of uniting the crowns of Brazil, Portugal and Spain, with his son Dom Pedro II in Brazil, his daughter Maria in Portugal or Spain. But he died.

[James The 1st]

I was going to try to form it with Iberia :P
But for the plausability of it, Dom Pedro I had plans of uniting the crowns of Brazil, Portugal and Spain, with his son Dom Pedro II in Brazil, his daughter Maria in Portugal or Spain. But he died.

But it would have still been called Spain.