Quick modding questions

**jdrou** · 06-06-2012 21:13

Originally Posted by t0m

Anyone know whats wrong with this decision? It caused a cdt every time I enact it? I've tried looking for ages and although its probably a minor mistake I'm not able to find it.

The OR serves no purpose where it is but that shouldn't cause a crash.
Try removing the TUR scope from the government change; since you've already changed tags at that point that is also redundant.
Pretty sure all those add_cores will also have no effect. When you change tags you keep your current cores; you don't get whatever cores (or any other properties) that new tag had before you changed. You probably want to remove the TUR scope from that as well.
Finally, are you modding an already-modded game (maybe DAO)? If so you need to make sure you're using the correct government type and tag since those may be completely different in a mod. If you're not using a mod then many of those provinces in your add_cores do not exist; this would probably cause a crash.

**Yosiu** · 07-06-2012 22:44

I have found on eu3 wiki (yes, i know it's outdated

) province scope "range = yes/no" which should indicate if the province is in colonial range.
Is this working ? What syntax should i use ?
Is this possible to make trigger like : if any province owned by country Y is in range of county X then ...." ?
I would like to take a look at working syntax of this trigger but it appears to be never used in vanilla game.

**nekoime** · 07-06-2012 22:49

Originally Posted by Yosiu

I would like to take a look at working syntax of this trigger but it appears to be never used in vanilla game.

Look into colonial.txt in missions folder, it's mentioned at least a dozen times.

**jdrou** · 07-06-2012 23:15

Originally Posted by Yosiu

I have found on eu3 wiki (yes, i know it's outdated

) province scope "range = yes/no" which should indicate if the province is in colonial range.

The event scripting pages (triggers/effects/scopes) are generally up to date (although new info from the current public beta patches is not included yet).
As nekoime says it's used in many missions in colonial.txt as well as country-specific missions for some of the historical colonizers.
You might be able to do what you want but country X would probably have to be the country receiving the event, not just some arbitrary country.

Code:

country_event = {

	id = xxxxxx

	trigger = {
		YYY = {
			any_owned_province = {
				range = yes
			}
		}
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 36
	}

	title = "EVTNAMExxxxxx"
	desc = "EVTDESCxxxxxx"
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTAxxxxxx"
		. . .
	}
}

Hopefully this would check the range from the province to the root scope country and not to the current country (which would be YYY).

**videonfan** · 07-06-2012 23:44

Can i use income for triggered modifiers?
Basically i want countries under a certain income to gain -10 colonists so nations like parma and naples don't colonise

**Yosiu** · 07-06-2012 23:59

Originally Posted by jdrou

Hopefully this would check the range from the province to the root scope country and not to the current country (which would be YYY).

I'm afraid it checks current country, so it has no usage

(or i'm doing something still wrong )
This would be much better trigger if instead of " range = yes/no ", it would be " range = TAG " syntax.
Orginal syntax isn't useful, since you can always use NOT = { } syntax.

EDIT: I made a decision to test this trigger

Code:

 country_decisions = {
test = {
	potential = {
		ai = no
		}
	allow = {  367 = { range = yes }
		367 = { range = no }
		POR = { 367 = { range = yes } }
		POR = { 367 = { range = no } }
		TUR = { 367 = { range = yes } }
		TUR = { 367 = { range = no } }
		367 = { TUR = { range = yes } }
		367 = { TUR = { range = no } }
		367 = { POR = { range = yes } }
		367 = { POR = { range = no } }
		}
	effect = { treasury = 5 }
}
}

Then I entered the game in 1429 while POR has a colony there and TUR can't reach The Azores using his colonial range.
But when I checked the decision, there was exactly the same answer from the game, no matter the fact I play as POR or as TUR.
So, am I missing something or this trigger is just broken ?

And one more question:
In cb_type.txt in " prerequisites = {} " section THIS is scoping to attacked country, but is FROM scoping attacker ?

**Yosiu** · 08-06-2012 00:47

Originally Posted by videonfan

Can i use income for triggered modifiers?
Basically i want countries under a certain income to gain -10 colonists so nations like parma and naples don't colonise

Code:

 no_more_milanise_africa={
	potential = { 
		technology_group = western
		}
	trigger = {
		NOT = { monthly_income = X }  
		}
	colonists = -10
	icon = 1
}

Just tweak monthly income to your preference.
You could also use " years_of_income = 12*X " trigger

**jdrou** · 08-06-2012 01:11

Originally Posted by Yosiu

Then I entered the game in 1429 while POR has a colony there and TUR can't reach The Azores using his colonial range.
But when I checked the decision, there was exactly the same answer from the game, no matter the fact I play as POR or as TUR.

What did it show for each trigger in the tooltip for the decision?

So, am I missing something or this trigger is just broken ?

Or maybe it only works for empty provinces.

**zedyue** · 08-06-2012 05:07

I've modded my history files a little bit so that Muscowy starts out in control of a few golden horde provinces so they don't get destroyed right away (trying to make them a teeny bit stronger than novgorod and last a bit longer against the horde and give the AI more likely a chance to survive the first war), but I'm not sure how to set it up so there are Muscovite colonists already in the province (if Muscovy is having a horrible time with money during the war it wont send colonists so I'm trying to give it a little push with like 200 colonists in one province).

If I make a save game and look at the province data I can find stuff such as:

Code:

    foreign_colonists="MOS"
    num_foreign_colonists=400

But this doesn't seem to have any effect in the base history files. I know you can set colony level for normal colonies, but I cannot figure out how to do it with a horde province. Any help?

**videonfan** · 08-06-2012 08:39

I don't think it's possible.You have to give them full control

**ANO1453** · 08-06-2012 08:47

Originally Posted by Yosiu

I'm afraid it checks current country, so it has no usage

(or i'm doing something still wrong )
This would be much better trigger if instead of " range = yes/no ", it would be " range = TAG " syntax.
Orginal syntax isn't useful, since you can always use NOT = { } syntax.

EDIT: I made a decision to test this trigger

Code:

 country_decisions = {
test = {
	potential = {
		ai = no
		}
	allow = {  367 = { range = yes }
		367 = { range = no }
		POR = { 367 = { range = yes } }
		POR = { 367 = { range = no } }
		TUR = { 367 = { range = yes } }
		TUR = { 367 = { range = no } }
		367 = { TUR = { range = yes } }
		367 = { TUR = { range = no } }
		367 = { POR = { range = yes } }
		367 = { POR = { range = no } }
		}
	effect = { treasury = 5 }
}
}

Then I entered the game in 1429 while POR has a colony there and TUR can't reach The Azores using his colonial range.
But when I checked the decision, there was exactly the same answer from the game, no matter the fact I play as POR or as TUR.
So, am I missing something or this trigger is just broken ?

And one more question:
In cb_type.txt in " prerequisites = {} " section THIS is scoping to attacked country, but is FROM scoping attacker ?

Aren't you contradicting yourself:

POR = { 367 = { range = yes } }
POR = { 367 = { range = no }

**Yosiu** · 08-06-2012 10:14

Yeah, I used multiple syntaxes to get feel of this trigger.
But i get same answer if i log as 1429 POR which have colony in Azores ( prov 367) or do i log as TUR which don't have colony range there.

**George LeS** · 08-06-2012 23:45

Can anyone list the factors which go into gaining cores? Which ones are moddable, and which can be affected by other things (like province flags/modifiers, policies, tetc.)

I'd like to figure a way to delay or speed it up (mostly the former) in certain cases. I know about the events which are out there, but what of the standard method, besides the values you choose at start?

**ANO1453** · 09-06-2012 01:26

Originally Posted by Yosiu

Yeah, I used multiple syntaxes to get feel of this trigger.
But i get same answer if i log as 1429 POR which have colony in Azores ( prov 367) or do i log as TUR which don't have colony range there.

I assume you didn't use both at the same time, because if you just put that test as you quoted here, and tried to run it, that is going to be a mess :P

**kepler** · 09-06-2012 02:29

Originally Posted by George LeS

Can anyone list the factors which go into gaining cores? Which ones are moddable, and which can be affected by other things (like province flags/modifiers, policies, tetc.)

I'd like to figure a way to delay or speed it up (mostly the former) in certain cases. I know about the events which are out there, but what of the standard method, besides the values you choose at start?

I had always thought you could only change the time it takes to acquire a core in the common file or doing it case by case via event.
Operatively, I think you need to set the maximum time you desire in the defines file and then use events to give cores before that time has passed.

**jdrou** · 09-06-2012 04:50

Originally Posted by kepler

I had always thought you could only change the time it takes to acquire a core in the common file or doing it case by case via event.
Operatively, I think you need to set the maximum time you desire in the defines file and then use events to give cores before that time has passed.

I believe this is all true.

**George LeS** · 09-06-2012 20:43

Ok, thanks.

That means I'll have to (a) set a longer core time, (b) make event(s) giving cores, and (c) set some flags & modifiers altering (b). Got it.

**jdrou** · 10-06-2012 00:57

Originally Posted by George LeS

Ok, thanks.

That means I'll have to (a) set a longer core time, (b) make event(s) giving cores, and (c) set some flags & modifiers altering (b). Got it.

Pretty sure Magna Mundi did something like this too.

**George LeS** · 11-06-2012 17:21

Here's a simple one, never occurred to me:

The effects doc has both these clauses:

Code:

<sub-unit name>
	Scope:		province
	Syntax:	<sub-unit name> = province id
	Create .a specific unit in the specified province.

and

Code:

galley
       Scope:		province
       Syntax:	galley = province number/THIS
       Create the most advanced galley ship available to the current country.

How do you use it to create the Galley sub-type, as opposed to a Galleass or Chebeck? For all other types, I can see no problem, and it's worked for me. But how to tell here?

**Nessaj** · 11-06-2012 17:53

I tried making an event that will help the AI Ottomans a bit - after they move their capital they can proclaim themselves the sultanate of Rum, which gives them a simple 1% prestige bonus and removes all the BYZ cores. However, only one core is removed, the one at the very bottom of the list.

Decision:

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