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    UI Friendly Flagpack

    PLEASE NOTE - This Flagpack is now superceded by the Symbols Flagpack (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...mbols-Flagpack). I've had to delete my uploads for this flagpack to free space. If you still want the UI Friendly Flagpack, though, just send me a private message on this forum with your email address, and I will be glad to send you the zip file of the package.

    UPDATED 2/14 --

    Changed ITA communist flag


    UPDATED 12/27 --

    See Preview Messages for Changes


    UPDATED 10/18 --

    Bigger Preview Grids!
    See Preview Messages for Changes


    UPDATED 9/15 --

    Changed ENG (UK) republic flag and ENL (NNM England) fascist flag


    UPDATED 8/10 --

    1) Added Flags for 50 Non-Vanilla Nations (UI_Friendly_Flags_NN.zip)
    See (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...1#post12725164) for details

    2) See Preview Messages for Other Changes


    UPDATED 7/24 --

    See Preview Messages for Changes


    I have been tweaking the Victoria II flags (including those from Thoughtful Punk's set) for a while now. I finally realized that I wanted to create a new flagpack. The ultimate point is to improve the feel of immersion. To accomplish this, I set these goals:

    1) Create flags that work nicely with the UI.

    Many of the default flags look good carried by armies, but don't look nearly as nice in the centered circle display used frequently by the UI. Most of my flags are centered, and the exceptions are laid out so that the distinguishing parts of the flags are visible in the centered circle display.

    2) Create flags that are unique for each country and ideology, and can be interpreted easily.

    I've tried to stick with consistent color sets for each country. Of course there are many exceptions for authenticity. I was more likely to make exceptions for more notable (i.e. recognizable) flags.

    I've used fairly consistent symbols for the different ideologies. For hypothetical flags, I used a set of regionally authentic overlays. I tried to use each symbol for only one ideology, so that the meaning of each symbol will be clear. Here's an overview of how that works:

    a) Simple multicolor flags are almost all republic flags (the few exceptions are monarchies).

    b) Flags with traditional coats of arms are almost all monarchy flags. A few exceptions are fascist flags with helmet and shield coats of arms.

    c) Flags with islamic crescents are mostly monarchy flags, but there are some republic flags with them. I did NOT add the crescent to create a fascist flag from a historical 'regular' flag.

    d) Flags with hammers, sickles, gears, fists, or wheat-circled coats of arms should all be communist flags. Most flags with prominent stars should also be communist flags.

    e) Most flags with superimposed eagles, ravens, swords, or bolts should be fascist flags. The exceptions should mostly be authentic and recognizable monarchy flags with eagles or swords.

    3) Create flags that are visually appealing, with a detail-level and feel that is at least reasonably period-appropriate.

    4) Use authentic flags when possible.

    Goal #1 definitely overrode #4 where necessary (see Chile & Cuba). I resolved conflicts between #2 and #4 on a case by case basis, and generally allowed Goal #4 to override #3.
    I will post preview grids of the flags shortly. In the mean time, here is the flagpack.
    Last edited by chandlerw1; 16-05-2012 at 04:25.

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    Transparent Overlays Kit

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    UPDATED 7/24

    For those of you who want to tinker with the flags yourself, you might find these helpful to use if you are willing to work with layers. Paint.Net makes this fairly easy.

    I'll specifically point out the Filter.png file. If you paste this image in a new layer over a flag you are working with, you can see what would show in the small UI circle. Then just undo or delete the layer to go back to editing your flag.
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    Preview Grids for A - G

    Updated 12/01

    Changed: BRA_fascist, BRE_fascist, COS_fascist, DEN_fascist


    Updated 11/22

    Changed: AFG_communist, ANH_fascist, AUS_monarchy, BAS_fascist, BHO_fascist, BIK_fascist, BUL_monarchy, BUN_fascist, COB_fascist, FRA_monarchy

    Tweaked: ANH_monarchy, ANH_communist, COB_communist, CYP (all), DZG_fascist


    Updated 11/5

    Changed: ABU_monarchy, ABU_fascist, ALB_republic, ALB_monarchy, ALD_monarchy, ANH_monarchy, ANH_fascist, ARG_monarchy, ARG_fascist, ARM_monarchy, ATJ_fascist, AUS_monarchy, AZB_monarchy, AZB_fascist, BAD_communist, BAV_fascist, BEL_fascist, BHU_fascist, BOH_monarchy, BOH_fascist, BOL_communist, BOL_fascist, BOS (all), BRA (all), BRE_monarchy, BUL_monarchy, BUR_fascist, BYZ_fascist, CAL (all), CAM_republic, CAM_monarchy, CHE_monarchy, CHI_communist, CHI_fascist, CNG_monarchy, CRI_monarchy, CUB_monarchy, CYP_republic, CZH_republic, DAI_monarchy, DOM_monarchy, DOM_fascist, ECU_republic, ECU_communist, EST_monarchy, ETH_fascist, GUA_monarchy, GUA_fascist,

    Tweaked: CAN_republic, CAN_communist, DAI_republic, ENG_monarchy, ENG_communist, FLA_republic, FLA_monarchy, FLA_fascist, GWA (all)


    Updated 10/18

    Changed: ANH_monarchy, CAN_fascist, CNG, CNG_republic, COB_fascist, DOM_republic, DOM_monarchy, ECU_fascist, ELS_communist, FRA_communist, GXI_republic, GXI_fascist


    Updated 9/15

    Changed: ENG_republic


    Updated 8/10

    Changed: BOS (all), BOH_monarchy

    Tweaked: BOH_republic, BOH_communist, BOH_fascist, ENG_monarchy


    Updated 7/24

    Changed: BHU_fascist, FRA_monarchy

    Tweaked: AFG_communist, CAN_fascist, CHL_fascist, COS_fascist, ECU_fascist, FRA_communist, FRA_fascist
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    Preview Grids for H - O

    Updated 2/14

    Changed: ITA_communist


    Updated 12/13

    Changed: HOL_republic, HOL_communist, IND_republic, KRA_communist, LAD_communist, NAL_fascist, NGF_monarchy, NGF_fascist, NIC_fascist


    Updated 11/28

    Changed: HAI_monarchy, HAM (all), HAN_fascist, HAW_monarchy, HEK_monarchy, HES_monarchy, HND_monarchy, HND_fascist, HOL_fascist, HON_fascist, HUN_communist, HYD_monarchy, ICL_monarchy, IND_fascist, IRE_fascist, IRQ_communist, ITA_communist, JAI_fascist, JAP_monarchy, JAS_fascist, JOD_fascist, KOR_monarchy, LAT_monarchy, LIP (all), LIT_fascist, LUA_communist, LUB_monarchy, MEC_monarchy, MEI_monarchy, MEI_fascist, MEW_communist, MEW_fascist, MOD_monarchy, MOD_fascist, MOL_fascist, MON_communist, MON_fascist, MOR_republic, MOR_communist, MOR_fascist, NAG_fascist, NEN_fascist, NEP_monarchy, NIC (all), NOR_monarchy, NOR_fascist, ORA_communist, ORI_fascist

    Tweaked: IND_republic, JAI_monarchy, LAD_fascist, MEC_communist, MEI_republic, MEI_communist, MOD_republic, MOD_communist, NEP (all), NEW_monarchy, NZL_republic, OLD (all), ORA_monarchy


    Updated 10/18

    Changed: JOH_communist, LUX_republic, LUX_communist, LUX_fascist, MEI_fascist, MEX_communist, NIC, NIC_republic, NIC_fascist

    Tweaked: HAI_monarchy, MCK_fascist


    Updated 8/10

    Changed: HAN_communist, HOL_republic, HOL_monarchy, HOL_fascist, IND_republic


    Updated 7/24

    Changed: HEK_communist, LAT_communist, NEW_fascist
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    Preview Grids for P - Z

    Updated 12/11

    Changed: PAP_communist, PAR_republic, PAR_communist, PAR_fascist, PER_monarchy, PEU_republic, PEU_monarchy, PHI_fascist, PNM_fascist, POR_communist, PRG_monarchy, PRG_communist, PRG_fascist, ROM_monarchy, RUS_monarchy, RUS_fascist, RUT (all), SAR_monarchy, SAX_fascist, SER_communist, SER_fascist, SGF_fascist, SHI_monarchy, SIA_communist, SIC_republic, SIC_communist, SIC_fascist, SIE_communist, SIE_fascist, SIK_monarchy, SLO_communist, SOK_communist, SWI_monarchy, SWI_communist, SWI_fascist, TRA (all), TRE_monarchy, TRE_communist, TRI (all), TRN_fascist, TUN_communist, TUS_republic, TUS_communist, TUS_fascist, VNZ_republic, VNZ_monarchy, WEI_fascist, WIA_monarchy, WIA_communist, WIA_fascist, WLL_fascist, WUR_monarchy, ZUL_communist

    Tweaked: PAP_republic, PAP_fascist, POL_republic, POL_communist, POL_fascist, POR_republic, PRU_fascist, RHO (all), ROM_communist, SIE_republic, SLO_monarchy


    Updated 10/18

    Changed: PEU_republic, SAF_communist, SAX_fascist, SER_monarchy, SLO_monarchy, SXI_republic, SXI_fascist, URU_monarchy, WEI_fascist, XBI_republic, XBI_fascist, YNN_republic, YNN_fascist


    Updated 7/24

    Changed: YEM_communist, USA_communist, YEM_fascist, YEM_republic

    Tweaked: PEU_communist, PEU_fascist, ROM_communist, ROM_fascist, ROM_monarchy, PNM_fascist, VNZ_fascist, YNN_fascist
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    Bonus (Dominion Flags)

    Update 12/19

    Changed: JOH_dominion
    Tweaked: AST_dominion


    Updated 8/10

    Changed: none
    Tweaked: all
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    Very nice, very nice.

    But why did you change Korea's monarchy flag? Is the current one historically inaccurate? Likewise, this may be a bit touchy, but why not use the flag of North Korea for Communist Korea? Afterall, you used South Korea's flag for democracy.

    Also, why not use Thoughtful Punk's tricolor for the British republican flag?

    And then, the USA's "Don't Tread on Me!" flag should have text on it. Just the snake is historically wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomgK3tchup View Post
    And then, the USA's "Don't Tread on Me!" flag should have text on it. Just the snake is historically wrong.
    I think that's the "UI Friendly" part. A lot of small details, such as text, don't look very good on-screen once the flag is much-reduced in size. If the point was complete historical accuracy, after all, you wouldn't worry about things like whether a flag is centered for the UI view.

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    These flags are..... Awesome.
    Communist Korea flag should be the North Korean flag.
    Communist China flag should be the current China flag.
    And I like the Australian Flags :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomgK3tchup View Post
    Very nice, very nice.

    But why did you change Korea's monarchy flag? Is the current one historically inaccurate? Likewise, this may be a bit touchy, but why not use the flag of North Korea for Communist Korea? Afterall, you used South Korea's flag for democracy.

    Also, why not use Thoughtful Punk's tricolor for the British republican flag?

    And then, the USA's "Don't Tread on Me!" flag should have text on it. Just the snake is historically wrong.
    The Korean monarchy flag is the basically the same flag. I just rendered my flags fresh from source material whereever possible. I think you'll see that in this case, my flag is closer to the source material (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._of_Joseon.svg) than the original.

    The communist Korea flag was a judgement call. If I used the official North Korean flag, I would have had to center the star. Then I found the party flag (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...y_of_Korea.svg) , which I considered unique and appealing.

    I didn't use Thoughtful Punk's UK republic flag because I do plan on expanding and having a seperate set of flags for non-UK England. Punk's UK republic flag is perfect for that.

    I removed the words from the "Don't Tread on Me Flag" because they didn't fit the UI circle. I'll take a look at adding them back depending how that looks in the UI circle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXLPlakat View Post
    These flags are..... Awesome.
    Communist Korea flag should be the North Korean flag.
    Communist China flag should be the current China flag.
    And I like the Australian Flags :3
    Thanks. Yeah, I enjoyed making the Australia ones. The fascist one is from the Capital Territory Flag (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._Territory.svg).

    I like my communist China one pulled from the civil war period (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...oviet_flag.svg) as a better period fit.

    Both that and North Korea were judgement calls, though.

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    IMO, historical accuracy should go above all else.

    Btw, you know the whole flag is still seen in events, decisions, and battles, right? Even if it doesn't fit in the UI circle, it's still seen.

    If you want an interesting US monarchy flag, I recommend checking out the flag of Washington D.C., essentially George Washington's coat of arms turned into a flag. But yeah, "Don't Tread on Me!" should totally be on the flag for the historical accuracy. IMO, it's like taking St. George's Cross out of the union jack. The entire point of the flag is the words on it.

    Definitely recommend the NK flag for communist Korea. Since the north and south don't have individual tags, using both flags is optimal.

    But overall, really nice flagpack. Out of hundreds of flags, I only have like two complaints. That's really a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomgK3tchup View Post
    IMO, historical accuracy should go above all else.
    Well, my suggestion then would be to download one of the flag packs which focuses on historical accuracy and not one which is named "UI Friendly" flagpack.

    But I agree. The flags look great. Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomgK3tchup View Post
    IMO, historical accuracy should go above all else.

    Btw, you know the whole flag is still seen in events, decisions, and battles, right? Even if it doesn't fit in the UI circle, it's still seen.

    If you want an interesting US monarchy flag, I recommend checking out the flag of Washington D.C., essentially George Washington's coat of arms turned into a flag. But yeah, "Don't Tread on Me!" should totally be on the flag for the historical accuracy. IMO, it's like taking St. George's Cross out of the union jack. The entire point of the flag is the words on it..
    Working nicely with the UI circle was (as I stated) one of the main drivers for this pack. I said that goal #1 (working with the UI) was going to trump accuracy. I'm surprised this flag is where you disagree so clearly, though. Did you see the violence that I did to the Cuban flag?

    I'll look at how it would look with the words, though (and will look into the monarchy flag also).

    Quote Originally Posted by ZomgK3tchup View Post
    Definitely recommend the NK flag for communist Korea. Since the north and south don't have individual tags, using both flags is optimal.

    But overall, really nice flagpack. Out of hundreds of flags, I only have like two complaints. That's really a good job.
    Thanks! I'm still thinking on the Korea and China flags. My initial reaction is that the NK party flag is just more interesting than a centered version of the national flag.

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    I like what you did with the China flag, actually. It's more visibly appealing than the current one.

    And even though the PRC flag is notorious as China's flag, it's not the only and certainly not the first communist flag. It's understandable that if China underwent a communist revolution early that there would be a different flag.

    Oh dear @ the Cuba flag.

    I'm slightly biased with the America flag, I must admit. Until those wackjob Tea Party guys started using it, my house had a "Don't Tread on Me!" flag flying, haha.

    I guess it's a bit of a sketchy place you're going to when you start altering real flags. Before you know it, someone's going to come in here yelling about how you mangled the flag of their homeland. D:

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    Quick Update

    I was able to create a version of the Don't Tread flag that satisfied me.



    I've also deferred to (centered versions of) the well-known Chinese and Korean communist flags. I'll keep my previous versions of these two in the pack as CHI_communist_2 and KOR_communist_2, though.

    Defaults:



    Alternates:



    I have updated the zip and preview grids.
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    Some good stuff there.

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    Very nice flag pack! While I too favor historical accuracy, I think its pretty silly for people to not read your approval/creation process for these flags and post their disagreements :P Good work

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    Flags for Fifty Additional Countries (Mostly from New Nations)

    I have created UI-friendly flags (see first message for details) for 50 non-vanilla countries. The vast majority of these countries are in the New Nations Mod, but I didn't always use the same TAG as NNM did. You can use these with NNM, though, just by tweaking the filenames.

    Here is a list of the tags that I used which differ from the NNM tags:

    ANT (Antilles) - similiar to NNM tag ANI (Antillean Confederation), flags are based on Martinique

    CHN (Channel Islands) - NNM tag JNG (Jersey & Guernsey)

    GAL (Galicia) - NNM tag GLC

    GRN (Greenland) - not in current version of NNM

    KUR (Kurdistan) - NNM tag KDS

    KZN (Kazan) - NNM tag TAR (Tartarstan)

    NMX (New Mexico) - not in NNM

    PAL (Palestine) - NNM tag PLS

    PIR (Piratini) - NNM tag RGS (Rio Grande do Sul)

    PRB (Pernambuco) - NNM tag CEQ (Equador Confederation)

    PRT (Puerto Rico) - NNM tag PRI

    TUV (Tuva) - NNM tag TNT (Tannu Tuva)

    VAS (Vasconia) - NNM tag BSQ (Basqueland)

    WIN (Winward Islands) - similiar to NNM tag ANI (Antillean Confederation), flags are based on Barbados

    WLS (Wales) - NNM tag WHA



    Updated 12/27:

    Changed: BIH_monarchy, BIH_fascist, CIR_republic, CRS_monarchy, DAG_monarchy, ENL_fascist, ENT (all), FIU_republic, FIU_communist, GAL_fascist, GRN_monarchy, GRN_fascist, IOM_republic, IOM_communist, IOM_fascist, JAM_monarchy, JOR_communist, KAM_fascist, KAZ_fascist, LEB_monarchy, MAH (all), MLT_monarchy, SIB_monarchy, SRI_fascist, TUV_republic, TUV_monarchy, URA_republic, VAS_monarchy, VAS_fascist, WES (all), YUC_fascist

    Tweaked: FIU_fascist, PRB (all)


    Updated 10/18

    Changed: BNG_monarchy, BNG_communist, BNG_fascist, ENL_fascist


    Updated 9/15

    Changed: ENL_fascist


    Preview Grids (last one is bonus dominion flags):
    Last edited by chandlerw1; 16-05-2012 at 04:14.

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