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    Quote Originally Posted by Barón Rojo View Post
    Proletarians? Or Union of proletarians.
    For who?

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    BTW, I don't know if a regionalist faction should be included when they will be basically Catalans and few more. I think that people like Lluis Companys should be included in the social-revolutionary faction.
    And Galicians. But your point is good. It seems that there's no left-wing Basque nationalism and by now I don't know if there're other nationalisms.
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    I think Proletarian is a weird name (for the ST faction) it's just odd. Try again please.

    So no Regionismos? So it's down to the STs, Anarcho-Syndicalists and Social-Revolutionaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viden View Post
    For who?



    And Galicians. But your point is good. It seems that there's no left-wing Basque nationalism and by now I don't know if there're other nationalisms.
    the Canary nationalist found for example the Communist party of Cuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowFire View Post
    ??? ST
    Anarcho-Syndicalists LE
    Social-Revolutionaries LWR
    Regionalismos LWR
    ST: POUM? Confederación Socialista? Don't know.
    LE: Federación Anarquista Ibérica (hey, we should retain the name somewhere! )
    LWR: Partido Sindicalista
    The other LWR: Liga Regionalista? Liga Federalista?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straczynski View Post
    ST: POUM? Confederación Socialista? Don't know.
    LE: Federación Anarquista Ibérica (hey, we should retain the name somewhere! )
    LWR: Partido Sindicalista
    The other LWR: Liga Regionalista? Liga Federalista?
    The Partido Sindicalista was an Anarcho-Syndicalist party formed by CNT members whilst the main source of the Social-Revolutionaries are socialists. POUM was a Trostkyst party. The Lliga Regionalista and FAI are also parties, but factions doesn't have party names. They are called Social-Reformists, National-Syndicalists, etc.
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    How about simply Estatistas (Statists) for ST?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrdie View Post
    How about simply Estatistas (Statists) for ST?
    I like it.

    BTW, I think the names should be in English just like the rest of things.
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    So Statists (ST), Anarcho-Syndicalists (LE) and Social-Revolutionaries (LWR)?

    Regardless of the name I think the focus should be on the Congresses now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowFire View Post
    So Statists (ST), Anarcho-Syndicalists (LE) and Social-Revolutionaries (LWR)?

    Regardless of the name I think the focus should be on the Congresses now.
    Any proposal?
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    Uh, no I don't since as I've repeatedly said, I don't know much about Spanish politics in this era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowFire View Post
    Uh, no I don't since as I've repeatedly said, I don't know much about Spanish politics in this era.
    I was talking about the congresses themselves.

    By now I think in two congresses: One at the wake of the Revolution and another after the victory. Later, well... yearly? I don't remember how often the other Syndicalists countries hold their congresses.
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    I think following the ACW would be for the best in this case, a faction is given power till the end of the civil war. Anyway, Syndie Congresses are every 4-5 years and the civil war is usually over by '38, so the first Congress could happen in '39. As I'm lazy why not have the Congresses every five years? '39, '44, '49, '54 '59 being the years of the Congresses. Now the other Syndie nations have the first two to three Congresses having events that indirectly decide who gets the majority and the remaining ones just being 'X gains a majority'. I think it would be wise to follow this, unless you guys can think of some issues that could happen for the remaining Congresses.

    So the SCW happens with 'X will guide us to victory' deciding the HoG, then the next two Congresses having 4 or 5 events that decide the leadership. It's up to you guys to decide what those issues will be.
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    Well, we would have to include the fundamentals - military, economy, government (communes and so on) etc, but I lack the knowledge to 'Hispanise' it - I know I am just stating the basics.
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    I think that in the war there should be at least two chain of events. One about as the military is organized, militias or professional army, chain of command or assemblies of soldiers, who put in command, etc. and other about what to do with the agricultural land taken, distribute between small farmers, collectivize, put them under an agricultural board, etc. this could bring some infight as each faction will make their own agricultural policy in the lands that they have token. And other event about France meddling in the internal affairs (or not) if they decide to help, depending of their ideology supporting one faction or another.

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    It's fine for me.

    PS: The overall background of Spain needs a bit of rethinking, BTW.
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    I don't the Syndies should have an event about the form of military to be used in the SCW unless the Carlists and the KoS get similar events. The land issue is something that should be for the first Congress personally. Also, I love to intervene as the Commune in the SCW so maybe more aid could be sent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowFire View Post
    I don't the Syndies should have an event about the form of military to be used in the SCW unless the Carlists and the KoS get similar events. The land issue is something that should be for the first Congress personally. Also, I love to intervene as the Commune in the SCW so maybe more aid could be sent.
    I agree with that, so we will later work on events for the KoS and the Carlists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Steiner View Post
    It's fine for me.

    PS: The overall background of Spain needs a bit of rethinking, BTW.
    Alfonso was pro-germany, so maybe he could grab some land from French Morocco for himself.
    EDIT: Or even he could get into the central powers and have german help in the rif war, or maybe Primo de Rivera's coup happend and he tries to get into the german alliance in the twenties
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    The backstory can be hashed out later, sorry but I would like some actual content made before abstract things are talked about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirro View Post
    Alfonso was pro-germany, so maybe he could grab some land from French Morocco for himself.
    EDIT: Or even he could get into the central powers and have german help in the rif war, or maybe Primo de Rivera's coup happend and he tries to get into the german alliance in the twenties
    Are you speaking of OTL o KR? Because in OTL Alfonso XIII was pro-Entente, just like President Eduardo Dato.
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