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    November – December 1759 – English back to home

    Not much even in the North in November – December, as I am heading toward “better” garrison, but I am not in the wilderness anymore anyway :


    Good surprise though, as I intercept a French mobile force going in the other direction :



    In December, Forbes takes command of the force which arrived in Carillon :



    This way, I need less supplies…

    Meanwhile, my landing force in the artic North retreats [December] :



    As you can see, my troops had their Christmas and their New Year Eve in a freezing ship. Sad. Very sad. The French will pay for this, too.

    In the South, it is much more interesting :



    The French are moving toward Georgetown, the last not match-proof city in the area. I have seen a French fleet going by, so I suppose the said fleet is suppose to take the troops away.
    I am sending my forces in Savannah as fast as possible, which means by bateaux. As I am afraid of the French fleet, I will sortie my own small fleet to escort them.

    In December, good news :

    My small escort fleet met the much larger French fleet (which included ships-of-the-line) in front of Georgetown. After a small combat, the French… turned away and retreated !



    Given how my force was outgunned and outmanned, this is humiliating for the French !

    Therefore, my small force can land on Georgetown without troubles, just days after it is captured by the French :



    The French quickly retreat.

    So here is the situation now in the South :



    Yep… They had the time to drop some garrison in the town, and my troops were not authorized to assault the structure. This will change next turn.
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    Thank you lodilefty. With the new rules, we now don't know when we can move "by order" to another region Except when it is too late, of course.

    Also... does the level of MC have an impact on the patrol of fortifications ? The Wiki says yes for now
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    Nice job, Narwhal, not only did you get your northern forces back to safety, you also managed to keep my hometown (Wilmington, I can see it creep into view in some of the screenshots of the South) safe from French matches.

    I take it that the (superior) French fleet had evade orders, which is why they ran screaming like little girls from your escort fleet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    Nice job, Narwhal, not only did you get your northern forces back to safety, you also managed to keep my hometown (Wilmington, I can see it creep into view in some of the screenshots of the South) safe from French matches.
    Ah... er.... we will see to that in 1760.

    I take it that the (superior) French fleet had evade orders, which is why they ran screaming like little girls from your escort fleet?
    Yep, that's the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    Nice job, Narwhal, not only did you get your northern forces back to safety, you also managed to keep my hometown (Wilmington, I can see it creep into view in some of the screenshots of the South) safe from French matches.

    I take it that the (superior) French fleet had evade orders, which is why they ran screaming like little girls from your escort fleet?
    well we left some matches behind ... and yep, you've just summarised my orders perfectly ... added to very low organisation as I don't have the discipline to put them into port often enough

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    Jan-Feb 1760: The English start as they mean to go on

    So as ever, even in the South these were quiet turns. In that case before reporting, time to reflect on what I saw as my strategic position. I was actually pretty pleased with my antics in 1758-9, I'd effectively stalled any movement into Canada (remember I was playing not to lose, rather than to win in a conventional sense) and to my advantage I had more boats on Ontario.

    I wasn't sure what Narwhal could do at Quebec to sustain his siege over winter and I was pretty confident I had the force (maybe too much) to fend off any attack and a stock of food to see me over the summer. So till he managed to force me out of Mont Royal, I felt that Quebec was safe. At Mont Royal, I had to be a bit more active. I planned a repeat of the 1758 raids south of Lake Ontario (but in more force) and again was looking for isolated columns to chop up, or to force a battle in terrain that suited me.

    That was the plan - pretty passive, but if somehow I could bring about the demise of another English column, I might have the strength to go back on the offensive. Due to my force conservation mindset, and the difficulties in bringing a large English army into Canada, numerically we were not that ill-matched.

    Anyway January opens with the English taking back Georgetown (which of course was met with the traditional French carelessness with matches) and badly beating my force that tried to retake the town.



    Thats it down South really. My fleet is at 0 org and I can't get the force left on ships, its not powerful enough to take anything any more, so I send off the Indians (they can still cause trouble elsewhere) and the Regulars dig in for one last stand.

    To ease my supply problems I've ordered up more supply wagons -



    And February is really quiet, well except for the English who just have to go and massacre a poor innocent sleeping Indian village ... keeps them busy I guess



    At some stage I expect the bulk of that army that took Detroit to turn up around Ontario.

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    Early 1760 (January – March) – All Quiet on the Northern Front

    In the North, (almost) nothing happens. Except the destruction of a pro-French village, for security reason, near Detroit :






    All the fun is in the South.

    In January, I take Georgetown back… but the French reduced it to ashes :





    A French attempt to chase me is stopped :



    After January, my troops recover some cohesion.



    As you can see, the coward French leader use the night to leave his troops to a certain death. Fort burning surrender monkey ! Well, I will do just that – kill the last French.

    In March, the last French are destroyed – and I capture their supply wagons.

    Here is the final situation in the South. Looks like the rest of the game will be played in Canada



    Or… will it ?
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    Not too sure how to comment... You're certainly not winning in a conventional sense, but I guess you can trade some units and places for time, and still achieve your goals. So in that sense, you're doing quite well, even if your only reported 'victory' is the burning of Georgetown.

    EDIT: The above was written in response to Loki's update. Narwhal, your update's pretty much a mirror image of Loki's, even with the little bits of propaganda thrown in (I particularly like the sound and image of 'fort burning surrender monkey' ). Your last ominous comment makes me fear for my hometown, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhal View Post
    In the North, (almost) nothing happens. Except the destruction of a pro-French village, for security reason, near Detroit :

    Or… will it ?
    hah, a town burns in the case of a heroic backs to the wall defense and this is equated with the destuction of an innocent village .... for security reasons ... Well I think our readers can judge

    & no thats not the end of the war in the South ... we have the great New York Raid yet to come, plus the intervention of my noble allies

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    Not too sure how to comment... You're certainly not winning in a conventional sense, but I guess you can trade some units and places for time, and still achieve your goals. So in that sense, you're doing quite well, even if your only reported 'victory' is the burning of Georgetown.

    EDIT: The above was written in response to Loki's update. Narwhal, your update's pretty much a mirror image of Loki's, even with the little bits of propaganda thrown in (I particularly like the sound and image of 'fort burning surrender monkey' ). Your last ominous comment makes me fear for my hometown, though...
    he could have described us just as baking the camembert ... but that is probably an image too far

    as to winning, well I think I undermined that by mid-1755 to be honest. I'm sure a really good French player can win this scenario, not least that by 1760 the two regular armies are not that ill matched. But its hard, realistically you have to stack up a large VP advantage by say 1758 & that means holding all the VP cities except Albany and lots of burning, I reckon then you might eke out a points victory
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki100 View Post
    & no thats not the end of the war in the South ... we have the great New York Raid yet to come, plus the intervention of my noble allies
    New York! That sounds big!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANO1453 View Post
    New York! That sounds big!
    I have big plans ... just too few troops

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    You just suggested that New York is in the South... I don't know who'd be more offended: the Yankees or the Southerners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    You just suggested that New York is in the South... I don't know who'd be more offended: the Yankees or the Southerners.
    well .... err ... ummh ... my allies to be are in the South and the raid starts in the south .... in that I was looking for something flammable and in the search sort of ended up in New York. I have to confess my North American geography is a bit random (but this game has done wonders for putting things into context), never climbed there so never taken that much notice.

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    So your Southern forces trek all the way up the Eastern Seaboard to put New York to the torch? I think you just endeared yourself to a sizable chunk of the population Down South.

    Anyway, if you do indeed end up traveling from the Carolinas to New York, I'd love to see a map of that. So far, we've mostly seen disparate maps of the Southern front and Canada, so i'd like to see how the two areas are connected and how that's reflected on the game map.
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    Do the spanish help all that much?

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    April 1760 – Commanders ! I have a new plan ! This one will work.

    I did not do much in April, but still I got some good news :

    Some leader appears in Louisbourg to help me… fight the Cherokees !



    What Cherokees ? I have not seen them. Yet.
    The fact that he starts at Louisbourg is logical, though, since he was detached by Amherst.

    I also have reinforcement in New York :



    Are those leaders any good ?
    Not really :



    So, what is my new plan ?

    Here is an assessment of the situation. Incidentely, it is also a assessment of what I have left to take :



    Obviously, with the armies I use, I cannot take Quebec (I don’t have the time to siege) nor Montréal (the defensive position is too good).
    The plan is to transport my Louisbourg force to New York, then bring it by Bateaux until Albany, then have it cross the wilderness to attack the enemy by the South by surprise. The surprise, for the enemy, not being in the attack but in the fact that I commit TWO armies in the South.

    Meanwhile, hopefully, Loki100 will still wait for a landing in Quebec and commit a large part of his army in garrison.
    If it does not work – I have a back-up plan. Yes. I honestly honestly do.
    Anyway, so here are the few orders I gave :



    Just moving the fleet into position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    EDIT: The above was written in response to Loki's update. Narwhal, your update's pretty much a mirror image of Loki's, even with the little bits of propaganda thrown in (I particularly like the sound and image of 'fort burning surrender monkey' ). Your last ominous comment makes me fear for my hometown, though...
    As a purist (and living with a non-French person), I only watch the classics in English. The classics being the Simpson in that case. You may also notice my game is in English, even though I could have chosen to play in French (the game is translated into English and Spanish, being "coded" in French).

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    So your Southern forces trek all the way up the Eastern Seaboard to put New York to the torch? I think you just endeared yourself to a sizable chunk of the population Down South.

    Anyway, if you do indeed end up traveling from the Carolinas to New York, I'd love to see a map of that. So far, we've mostly seen disparate maps of the Southern front and Canada, so i'd like to see how the two areas are connected and how that's reflected on the game map.
    I believe you will see such a map before the end

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    Do the spanish help all that much?
    There are not at war, yet.
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    Concentrate your forces for an overwhelming attack on Montreal - sounds straightforward, could work out well... How long will it take you to get the troops from Louisbourg in position, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    So your Southern forces trek all the way up the Eastern Seaboard to put New York to the torch? I think you just endeared yourself to a sizable chunk of the population Down South.

    Anyway, if you do indeed end up traveling from the Carolinas to New York, I'd love to see a map of that. So far, we've mostly seen disparate maps of the Southern front and Canada, so i'd like to see how the two areas are connected and how that's reflected on the game map.
    well the only problem is after all my fort and town buring down south ... I'm not really sure there are many left to cheer my activities further north? But yes, as Narwhal says, we'll have maps that link up New York to Albany etc.

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    Do the spanish help all that much?
    When they join, not really. The majority are fixed in place, the difference, as per the discussion on VPs a few posts back, is that means the English need to take New Orleans to win, but as I've stripped the garrison for my raids in the south, thats not too much of an additional challenge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    Concentrate your forces for an overwhelming attack on Montreal - sounds straightforward, could work out well... How long will it take you to get the troops from Louisbourg in position, though?
    Hah, he's having you on ... he runs around Mont Royal a lot but take it ... non ... non

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    March-April 1760: Preparations

    Well March 1760 opens with a manly scene of martial valour and many regrets. The Vicomte Desandrouin sadly & tearfully has to leave the troops he has led on so many accidental 'burning the fromage' incidents. He is needed to add CPs to my forces at Mont Royal after the deliberate killing of so many noble French officers. His ride of course is a thing of myth as he escapes English force after English force .. his men, well:



    So both sides start recruiting heavily for the 1760 campaign, this bloke pops up:



    handy as he potentially adds to my forces around Ontario where so many of my brave Indians have already been killed.



    Here's Mont Royal et al. I'm managing my supply problem by breaking Montcalm's army up and sending supply wagons back and forth (even in winter they can manage Mont Royal-Trois Rivieres in a single turn).

    Now in keeping with my strategy of whacking isolated English forces, that bunch at Isle de Noix will do as a nice warm up exercise ... and I retake the only port left unburnt on the north of Lake Champlain too.



    Oh, and our old friends the Cherokees plan a reunion in the south ... lets see whats left that is flammable

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