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    Beta of 5.1 - 29th June 2011 - Discussion Thread


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    first! sweet.

    Foreign armies will now automatically disband the shogunate if they control all the daimyo's capitals, including Japan proper.
    AWESOME!!

    Non-Hordes can now actually get tributes from hordes.
    GNARLEY!!

    Looks like some big stuff got changed, as well as the little details. Nicely done Paradox!

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    Last edited by herrhals; 29-06-2011 at 13:12.
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    nice
    if you want peace prepare for war

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    I'm very glad to see you've added the "ai_will_do" clause. Thanks a lot. The icons for the new mapmodes are a fine new addition.
    A lot of small db errors have been corrected too, good work.
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    Oh man this looks like a sweet patch!

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    Great work, thanks guys!

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    Good patch, nice job!
    And the new icons give hope for the official one ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by herrhals View Post
    Ikki Ikki
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    The Ikko-ikki are Japanese revolters. They were referred to as "ikko-ikki" in two places and "ikko-ikkis" in another, so they didn't work.
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    I do have a remark:
    The fort level mapmode could use more contrast. It's hard to differentiate between a level 1 and a level 2 fort, for example. The same could probably be said for the two "recruitment" mapmodes.
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    its isnt with the fort

    the reqruitment i agree
    if you want peace prepare for war

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    Doesn't this change to CoTs essentially mean the only way a Middle Eastern nation (including the Ottomans) can get a CoT is to either take or disband the Alexandrian one (or, for added lulz, Astrakhan).

    As they're all really mercantile, this is a bit of a blow to anyone who wants to pursue a peaceful economic strategy. We can't really trade as we don't have CoTs of our own and our compete chances are rubbish, and now we can't have CoTs either.

    In fact, it hits any nation that's mercantile but trades through a moderately wealthy, but not very wealthy, CoT. In other words, anyone outside Western Europe.

    I guess not everyone gets to trade.

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    i have GALN to
    if you want peace prepare for war

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewT View Post
    For the checksum I get GALN, can folks please confirm?
    Aye, GALN as well.

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    I love the sound of being able to disband the shogunate. Half the bitching will evaporate like the wind.
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    Massive changelog! The changes to the tribute system so players can receive tribute and the NI change will affect the hordes but what about slowing down their spread and land grabbing?

    Excellent list of changes nevertheless, the Shogun changes are awesome for anyone expanding in East Asia.

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    Amazing! Installing as soon as I get home.

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    corrected misplaced bracket in restorebyzantineempire.txt decision
    thankyouthankyouthankyou

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    This looks awesome. Thanks a lot.

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