Ship Mod (Beta testing)

[Abnormalmind]

MEIOU 5.1b ship mod beta test

*** WARNING ***** Installing these files will overwrite your original files.

To install:
Download attachment at the bottom of this post
Unzip SHIPS to MEIOU 5.1b\mod\meiou\common\units
Unzip NAVAL to MEIOU 5.1b\mod\meiou\common\technologies

1 June 2011:

1. Fixed naval technology scaling.
2. Reduced morale values per tech level to hopefully prevent total fleet annihilations.
3. Improved galley shock values to improve performance.

18 May 2011:

1. (much) Faster ship combat resolution.
2. Reverted MEIOU ship classes to DW ship classes.
3. Galleys are the prominent warship up to around tech 28, when the Galleon comes online.
4. The Wargalleon comes online at tech 35 and far outclasses the galley.
5. The naval positioning mechanic can make or break a naval battle.
6. Transports are not warships and need protection.
7. Light ships have the highest strategic movement speed, but are rather weak warships.
8. When in doubt, sail away!

Feedback is greatly appreciated.
Special thanks to the MEIOU team for a splendid mod.
Special thanks to 17blue17 and George LeS for their comments and suggestions.

Thanks!
-Abnormalmind

Filename: Ship_beta_MEIOU_1Jun2011.zip
Ship_beta_MEIOU_1Jun2011.zip

[doubtofbuddha]

Will it break save games?

[Baikal]

As far as I'm aware "no". If I recall correctly the mod removes some ship types which would crash the game if these ships have been produced by any nation in the game at the point of time you switch from original settings to this mod.

[Chuffy Manthrob]

AI only seems to build big ships and transports and ignores galleys.

[Abnormalmind]

The mod will likely break a saved game because of the saved game ship names. However, I'm not completely sure. If someone is willing to be the guinea pig tester, I'd be happy to know the results.

Thanks!
-AB

[doubtofbuddha]

Sorry, I meant would updating from Alpha to Beta break saved games.

[Abnormalmind]

Sorry, I meant would updating from Alpha to Beta break saved games.

Ah! Should work flawlessly.

[Abnormalmind]

AI only seems to build big ships and transports and ignores galleys.

Which nation and what year into the game?

[17blue17]

AI only seems to build big ships and transports and ignores galleys.

The ai will do this until MEIOU starts having the inland sea back on the terrain.bmp as this is what happened in the non modded game until Paradox fixed it.

Abnormalmind - has gigau released a corrected terrain.bmp with the inland sea for people to test with your mod yet?

[Abnormalmind]

The ai will do this until MEIOU starts having the inland sea back on the terrain.bmp as this is what happened in the non modded game until Paradox fixed it.

Abnormalmind - has gigau released a corrected terrain.bmp with the inland sea for people to test with your mod yet?

Hi, I have not heard anything.

[Keanon]

I find that battles both land and sea generally last a lot of days, is this really historically? I mean, for two armies about 10k each to fight for days on end without any progress? Isn't this a really late thing? I thought battles in this time were hours, not days.

[Abnormalmind]

I find that battles both land and sea generally last a lot of days, is this really historically? I mean, for two armies about 10k each to fight for days on end without any progress? Isn't this a really late thing? I thought battles in this time were hours, not days.

The game handles combat very abstractly. Although many of the units have names and types that are plucked from history, naval and land combat mechanics focus more on balance and the "fun factor."

[birdboy2000]

Galley battles are still a little tiresome, but. This mod is amazingly useful once you get big ships built, and even galley battles are better than before. I was able to play a game in Indonesia and have fun, because the naval system *works* again.

[Abnormalmind]

Galley battles are still a little tiresome, but. This mod is amazingly useful once you get big ships built, and even galley battles are better than before. I was able to play a game in Indonesia and have fun, because the naval system *works* again.

Thanks!

[MacDunne]

Galley battles are still a little tiresome, but. This mod is amazingly usul once you get big ships built, and even galley battles are better than before. I was able to play a game in Indonesia and have fun, because the naval system *works* again.

Agreed, Abnormalmind's ship mod is a great benefit to MEIOU and I appreciate the work put into the ship mod. I see far less ships locked into endless battles than before.

I'm waiting for the next installment of MEIOU where the inner seas are added back to the map so that the galleys can function as they are intended. At that time, we should have a better idea if this mod needs to be tweaked or not.

[Abnormalmind]

Agreed, Abnormalmind's ship mod is a great benefit to MEIOU and I appreciate the work put into the ship mod. I see far less ships locked into endless battles than before.

I'm waiting for the next installment of MEIOU where the inner seas are added back to the map so that the galleys can function as they are intended. At that time, we should have a better idea if this mod needs to be tweaked or not.

Thanks!

[17blue17]

Abnormalmind

question - for your mod did you remember to update / change the ship.gfx file in the mods interface folder (not gfx\interface but just interface)?

This is a new file added in DW that points the ship units to the graphic files they should use. You would need to update to include all the ships in your mod and remove any not in your mod.

If you are only using standard DW ships then just replace the file in the mod with the standard one from DW.

If you have any custom ships then note:

Note tests done by others seem to show that you apparently can't point to custom ship graphics / custom .xac file in a mod - you have to point to existing ones.

See here for examples and discussion:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...1#post12476683

[Abnormalmind]

Abnormalmind

question - for your mod did you remember to update / change the ship.gfx file in the mods interface folder (not gfx\interface but just interface)?

This is a new file added in DW that points the ship units to the graphic files they should use. You would need to update to include all the ships in your mod and remove any not in your mod.

If you are only using standard DW ships then just replace the file in the mod with the standard one from DW.

If you have any custom ships then note:

Note tests done by others seem to show that you apparently can't point to custom ship graphics / custom .xac file in a mod - you have to point to existing ones.

See here for examples and discussion:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...1#post12476683

Hi,

The graphics seem to work for all periods with the mod. The mod drilled back to DW ship names, and the graphic links seem to be intact.

Thanks for the heads up!
-AB

[medea]

The problem I see with this mod is that after a few years (around 5) several states have huge galley fleets. In my game Portugal has over 80, Genoa around 90, Aragorn over 60. Cog numbers seem normal: ~10. It seems a bit wrong to me.

Otherwise I love the reduced naval combat time.

[SAS]

that does seem like a lot for the state to maintain.