Ok all, we made a new AI that is just as smart as the real life WW2 leaders were. We did a test game to see how things went and here are some of the analysis of that test game.
It's 1938 and looking at the production AI we see that the French and UK are building things like BB's and not CV's. They also seem to be ignoring the air forces and I can't believe the French divisions the AI is constructing. Why attach a tank brigade to three INF brigades? There is no CA bonus that way. Over in the SU their OOB is a real mess and units have like two brigades per division. Even Germany hasn't been researching the various techs fast enough.
OK war started in 1939 and the French AI could easily attack the lightly defended German provinces but just sits there doing nothing. Why aren't the allied planes at least conducting bombing attacks? And the German AI took almost a month to defeat Poland? What's up with that? Why so long?
Wow it's been 6 months and the AI on all sides has done absolutly NOTHING. What is the AI waiting for? And the AI is still doing a poor job in placing leaders in the chain of command.
Finally, the AI does an attack but picks, Norway? The UK with its massive fleet utterly failed in stopping the German landings. Why are those CV's in the Med and elswhere when they should be in the North Sea? And the stupid AI let a CV get sunk cause it didn't launch its CAG's? UGH!
The German AI attacks France and the Low Countries. For some reason the allied AI didn't even bother to station many troops in Luxembourg or northern France. They loaded up the Maginot Line and sent most of their troops into Belgium. Can you believe how stupid the allied AI was to get cut off like that. Why are those troops just sitting there in their forts when Paris is in danger?
Well France fell and the German AI is trying to do an air war it seems. But it keeps changing targets or stopping. And the allied AI conducted a strat bombing and now the German AI uses all their TAC's to do strat bombing instead of going after ships in port or airfields. The German AI built a number of ships it seems but not enough, no CV's and then he sends them out in a two ship fleet to get sunk?
Boy the UK AI is really poor so far in sinking those subs. And looks like lots of IC is being spent on convoys. Italian AI is getting its butt kicked in Africa and can't even fight the Greeks. Either the Italian AI doesn't research the right techs or they don't use enough troops in their fights. Maybe both.
Ok the German AI is starting the war against the SU. But it left way too many troops in the west and in Norway. Whay can't the AI get Nat. Spain to join?
So the SU AI can't defend thats for sure. It keeps getting its units destroyed. But the German AI keeps sending their units all over the map. Instead of just going for Moscow they send them south then north and back again. In the west the stupid allied AI tries to do an invasion. What a small invasion force. Why even bother?
I see the Japaneese AI keeps way too many troops around the SU border when they have a non-agression pact with the SU. Why is that? And the allied AI can't even defend in Singapore. But the German AI pretty much stops their attack in the SU.
Now the German AI moves almost all their forces to southern Russia and then lets them get destroyed in some city. The Axis minors just don't seem to cooperate very well and their forces are way behind in techs. Even in Africa the AI went back and forth on both sides 2 times before the Axis AI got killed due to not enough supply comvoys getting in.
Now why did the Allied AI land in Sicily when all the ports in southern France and northern Italy were unoccupied? The German AI seems to be ignoring research in basic areas but is going for super heavy tanks, nukes and jets. Meanwhile the German AI does a last atack in the east against the most heavily defended area instead of elsewhere. And Japan isn't using their subs correctly while pretty much doing nothing against the US sub attacks. Not to mention they still can't defeat China and are bogged down.
OK this was wierd. Even if it worked the allies did an invasion against the most defended area in France. The only reason it worked was because the German AI refused to reinforce the units fighting when they had 2 or 3 panzer divisions just sitting in France. On the East both sides are fighting an attrition war while Germany wastes units in Greece, Norway and other places. Why not use the Axis minors to defend there and the better teched German units on the front lines?
Well it's pretty much over now. The Japs threw away their fleet in dumb battles and never did press their early victories into India or Australia not to mention ever researching any more air techs or doctrines. The Italians left their fleet in port to get bombed and was so bad they couldn't even defeat Greece or Yougoslavia.
The Germans after starting good made many poor decisions on what to build, what to research and how to fight. They launched dumb attacks and never coordinated with their axis minors. They kept transferring units all over the place and even sent tons of units to Africa after that fight was already lost. Not to mention leaving panzers stationary near Paris while the allies were invading.
The UK and France couldn't defend if their life depended on it and won because the Germans did worse in attacking after an initial good spell. Eventually the UK stopped the subs but that was due to getting some tech and the Germans not building more subs. The US took forever (2+ years) to actually do something in the war. And when they did they landed in places like Morraco where there weren't any German troops anyway. They did do lots of strat bombing but kept hitting the same places over and over.
Finally the SU had a mess of an OOB and took forever to fix it. Not to mention being really dumb in the defense at the start. They got lucky that the Germans kept shifting their attacks and then refused to leave a surrounded city or two.
Bottom line is both AI's were so poor neither side could claim they won. The besst these AI's can claim is they lost less often than the other sides AI did.
It's 1938 and looking at the production AI we see that the French and UK are building things like BB's and not CV's. They also seem to be ignoring the air forces and I can't believe the French divisions the AI is constructing. Why attach a tank brigade to three INF brigades? There is no CA bonus that way. Over in the SU their OOB is a real mess and units have like two brigades per division. Even Germany hasn't been researching the various techs fast enough.
OK war started in 1939 and the French AI could easily attack the lightly defended German provinces but just sits there doing nothing. Why aren't the allied planes at least conducting bombing attacks? And the German AI took almost a month to defeat Poland? What's up with that? Why so long?
Wow it's been 6 months and the AI on all sides has done absolutly NOTHING. What is the AI waiting for? And the AI is still doing a poor job in placing leaders in the chain of command.
Finally, the AI does an attack but picks, Norway? The UK with its massive fleet utterly failed in stopping the German landings. Why are those CV's in the Med and elswhere when they should be in the North Sea? And the stupid AI let a CV get sunk cause it didn't launch its CAG's? UGH!
The German AI attacks France and the Low Countries. For some reason the allied AI didn't even bother to station many troops in Luxembourg or northern France. They loaded up the Maginot Line and sent most of their troops into Belgium. Can you believe how stupid the allied AI was to get cut off like that. Why are those troops just sitting there in their forts when Paris is in danger?
Well France fell and the German AI is trying to do an air war it seems. But it keeps changing targets or stopping. And the allied AI conducted a strat bombing and now the German AI uses all their TAC's to do strat bombing instead of going after ships in port or airfields. The German AI built a number of ships it seems but not enough, no CV's and then he sends them out in a two ship fleet to get sunk?
Boy the UK AI is really poor so far in sinking those subs. And looks like lots of IC is being spent on convoys. Italian AI is getting its butt kicked in Africa and can't even fight the Greeks. Either the Italian AI doesn't research the right techs or they don't use enough troops in their fights. Maybe both.
Ok the German AI is starting the war against the SU. But it left way too many troops in the west and in Norway. Whay can't the AI get Nat. Spain to join?
So the SU AI can't defend thats for sure. It keeps getting its units destroyed. But the German AI keeps sending their units all over the map. Instead of just going for Moscow they send them south then north and back again. In the west the stupid allied AI tries to do an invasion. What a small invasion force. Why even bother?
I see the Japaneese AI keeps way too many troops around the SU border when they have a non-agression pact with the SU. Why is that? And the allied AI can't even defend in Singapore. But the German AI pretty much stops their attack in the SU.
Now the German AI moves almost all their forces to southern Russia and then lets them get destroyed in some city. The Axis minors just don't seem to cooperate very well and their forces are way behind in techs. Even in Africa the AI went back and forth on both sides 2 times before the Axis AI got killed due to not enough supply comvoys getting in.
Now why did the Allied AI land in Sicily when all the ports in southern France and northern Italy were unoccupied? The German AI seems to be ignoring research in basic areas but is going for super heavy tanks, nukes and jets. Meanwhile the German AI does a last atack in the east against the most heavily defended area instead of elsewhere. And Japan isn't using their subs correctly while pretty much doing nothing against the US sub attacks. Not to mention they still can't defeat China and are bogged down.
OK this was wierd. Even if it worked the allies did an invasion against the most defended area in France. The only reason it worked was because the German AI refused to reinforce the units fighting when they had 2 or 3 panzer divisions just sitting in France. On the East both sides are fighting an attrition war while Germany wastes units in Greece, Norway and other places. Why not use the Axis minors to defend there and the better teched German units on the front lines?
Well it's pretty much over now. The Japs threw away their fleet in dumb battles and never did press their early victories into India or Australia not to mention ever researching any more air techs or doctrines. The Italians left their fleet in port to get bombed and was so bad they couldn't even defeat Greece or Yougoslavia.
The Germans after starting good made many poor decisions on what to build, what to research and how to fight. They launched dumb attacks and never coordinated with their axis minors. They kept transferring units all over the place and even sent tons of units to Africa after that fight was already lost. Not to mention leaving panzers stationary near Paris while the allies were invading.
The UK and France couldn't defend if their life depended on it and won because the Germans did worse in attacking after an initial good spell. Eventually the UK stopped the subs but that was due to getting some tech and the Germans not building more subs. The US took forever (2+ years) to actually do something in the war. And when they did they landed in places like Morraco where there weren't any German troops anyway. They did do lots of strat bombing but kept hitting the same places over and over.
Finally the SU had a mess of an OOB and took forever to fix it. Not to mention being really dumb in the defense at the start. They got lucky that the Germans kept shifting their attacks and then refused to leave a surrounded city or two.
Bottom line is both AI's were so poor neither side could claim they won. The besst these AI's can claim is they lost less often than the other sides AI did.
