[WIP] Modern day scenario!

[Hibernian]

I plan to make a unified Korea event that fires if:
- South and North have the same type of government
or
- one is conquered by another
or
- one is in sphere of another
or
- they're both in one sphere.

I think the spheres one isn't a good idea, I don't think it should be that easy to bring down the North Korean regime. With a setup like that, all I would have to do as the USA would be to start influencing the North on day 1 and within a few years I could unify Korea, that's way too easy if you ask me.

Also, if you're looking for cores rearrangement, I did a whole lot of that for NNM and PDM which would be applicable to this (though not all of it would be). You'll also presumably want to import a lot of stuff from NNM and PDM (countries and events, etc) rather than starting from scratch (PDM has all sorts of bug fixes that vanilla doesn't).

[tamius23]

A question, cyrylc: do you plan to leave regions as they are?

If you do, for example, serbia will have a free war to eat Bosnia, and Hungary could also eat Slovakia. *chomp*

[cyrylc]

A question, cyrylc: do you plan to leave regions as they are?

Nah, I'll add some more, when I discover how to do it.

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Cores and Stuff:

Ireland has cores on Northern Ireland (Belfast-Londonderry-Armagh)
Portugal has cores on Galicia (Vigo-La Coruna)
Spain has cores on Gibraltar
Italy has cores on Savoy and Nice and Corsica(Annecy-Chambery-Nice-Corsica)
Italy also has cores on parts of Croatia and Greece (Zadar-Split-Dubrovnik-Pola-Fiume-Trieste-Postojna-Dodecanese-Malta-Iraklion-Chania)
Italy has no cores on South Tyrol (Trent-Bozen)
Austria has cores on Italy's South Tyrol (Trent-Bozen)
Germany has cores on Elsass and western Poland (Colmar-Strassburg-Metz) and (Stettin-Kustrin-Liegnitz-Oppeln-Kattowitz-Breslau-Kustrin-Kolberg-Elbing-Allenstein-Koenigsburg-Gumbinnen-Memel)
Germany also has cores on Aabenraa in Denmark
Denmark has cores on Flensborg and Iceland
Sweden has cores on Turku, Helsinki and the Alands.
Finland has cores on Karelia (Petsamo-Viipuri-Kostomushka-Kandalaksha-Kola)
Poland has cores on 1939 Poland: (Grodno-Vilnius-Pastavy-Lida-Baranovichy-Pinsk-Kovel-Rovne-Lvov-Ternopil-Stanislavov-Stryi)
Estonia has cores on Gdov
Belarus has cores on Velikiye Luki, Bryansk and Smolensk
Ukraine has cores on Ukrainian areas in Russia (Kursk-Belgorod-Voronets-Ekaterinodar-Novorossiysk-Chirskaya)
Israel has cores on all the Palestinian areas and Sinai (Nablus-Gaza-Al Arish-Sharm el-Shaykh)
Palestine has cores on all of Israel (Jerusalem-Acre-Nablus-Be'ersheba)
Romania has cores on Moldova and all the Romanian areas: (Pervomaisk-Vinniytsa-Silistre-Nis-Florina-Pola-Chisinau-Balti)
Hungary has cores on Hungarian areas: (Novi Sad-Targu Mures- Bratislava-Nitra-Roznava-Oradea)
Slovakia has cores on Uzhhorod
Albania has cores on Greater Albania and Kosovo (Bitola-Prizren-Pristina-Ulcinj-Janina)
Greece has cores on Greek areas and Cyprus (Gjirokaster-Edirne-Limassol-Nicosia-Famagusta)
Cyprus has cores on the TRNC (Famagusta)
the TRNC has cores on Cyprus (Limassol-Nicosia)
Serbia has cores on Serb-inhabited Bosnia: Tuzla-Banja Luka-Foca-Livno
Croatia has cores on Mostar
Turkey has cores on: (Famagusta-Dedeagatch)
Bulgaria has cores on: (Xanthe-Kavala-Salonika-Edessa-Skopje-Bitola)
the Republic of Macedonia has cores on Florina

That's enough for now. Want me to post my ideas for releasable/formable nations?

-tamius23

edit: I'm on a four-day weekend too

another edit: The reason South Korea is in the top eight is its enormous army, 8.6 million. North Korea has 9.6 million soldiers.
Also, I'd give Trieste to Slovenia, even though Trieste is in Italy: because Slovenia needs an outlet to the sea and Italy shouldn't border Croatia. Unless you want to fiddle with the province borders.

Turkey has claims also on Dodecanese, Chios, Myteline. These territories should be number 1 for Turkish claims. If Dedeagatch is included as claim then should also be Xante, there is very big Turkish minority living there. And Syria should have core on Antioch.
There would also be claims on Mosul, Kirkurk and Arbil by Turkey, but these ain't that necessary.

And why is Cyprus united? It should be Cyprus and Northern Cyprus.

Also shouldn't Turkey be Secondary Power?

[ZomgK3tchup]

I think the spheres one isn't a good idea, I don't think it should be that easy to bring down the North Korean regime. With a setup like that, all I would have to do as the USA would be to start influencing the North on day 1 and within a few years I could unify Korea, that's way too easy if you ask me.

Put North Korea in China's sphere and South Korea in the USA's sphere. Make the USA Opposed/Hostile in North Korea and China Opposed/Hostile in South Korea.

[cyrylc]

Put North Korea in China's sphere and South Korea in the USA's sphere. Make the USA Opposed/Hostile in North Korea and China Opposed/Hostile in South Korea.

That's what I was planning to do.

[Hibernian]

There would also be claims on Mosul, Kirkurk and Arbil by Turkey, but these ain't that necessary.

That sounds unlikely, the people in those areas would never accept Turkish rule.

Remember what cores are and what they do. They are not just political claims made by a government, they also represent what the people in those areas want, so unless there’re large populations of a culture in a province that wants to be independent or join another country you shouldn't just assign a core there.

If a country captures a province which it has a core on then that means they will not experience any nationalism or militancy from the conquered population, something which is unlikely in most circumstances today.

Also remember that if a country has cores that are in another nation then they will get Revanchism and Fascism will rise in that country. This would be pretty odd to see in modern Europe, no?

I agree that South Korea should be in the USA's sphere, but North Korea is only loosely controlled by China today. China didn't want them to have Nukes, but they did it anyway. They are so isolationist that they might be best represented as being "Hostile" to all GPs, and "Friendly" with China.

[tamius23]

And why is Cyprus united? It should be Cyprus and Northern Cyprus.

The TRNC (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus) is in the list

rest of the cores:

Canada: Caribou
Dominican Republic: Cap Haitien, Port-au-Prince (loose)
Venezuela: Mahdia, Essequibo
Bolivia: Tarauaca, Calama, Antofagasta, Cochinoca, Equia, Jujuy, Puerto Guarani, Fortin Falcon.
Peru: Iquique, Arica
Paraguay: Formosa, Xolotas, Posadas/Guarapuava, Iguatemi
Argentina: Falklands, South Georgia

You could give Mexico a million cores but it would probably make no sense.

Right, I can't resist making another list.

a few releasable nations in Europe:

Bavaria
Galicia
Aragon
Catalonia
Corsica
Brittany
Normandy
Sapmi
Basque Country
Aland Islands
Wallonia
Flanders
Scotland
Ireland
Wales
Sicily
Crimea
Kalmykia
Daghestan
Chechnya
Adygea
Ingushetia
North Ossetia
Kurdistan
Tatarstan
Bashkortostan
etc

asia:

East Turkestan
Kashmir
Sikkim
Orissa, other Indian minors
Shan
Mon
Karen
Tibet
Pakhtunistan
Baluchistan
Ryukyu
West New Guinea
Panjab
Manchuria
Turkmeneli in northern Iraq, as per suggestion

africa:
Biafra

edit: bugger, I forgot. Give the FSM cores on Palau
edit: give Colombia cores on Marabitanas

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That sounds unlikely, the people in those areas would never accept Turkish rule.

Remember what cores are and what they do. They are not just political claims made by a government, they also represent what the people in those areas want, so unless there’re large populations of a culture in a province that wants to be independent or join another country you shouldn't just assign a core there.

If a country captures a province which it has a core on then that means they will not experience any nationalism or militancy from the conquered population, something which is unlikely in most circumstances today.

Also remember that if a country has cores that are in another nation then they will get Revanchism and Fascism will rise in that country. This would be pretty odd to see in modern Europe, no?

There are Turkish (Turkomans) people living in Mosul region.

Fascistic Turkey would just mean Neo-Ottoman Empire.

[tamius23]

Countries that start off at war:-

Armenia&Nagorno-Karabakh against Azerbaijan
wargoals: Armenia: none Azerbaijan: liberate Nagorna-Karabakh

United States, UK, and some others against Afghanistan
wargoals: United States: add Afghanistan to sphere UK: humiliate Afghanistan Afghanistan: none

Israel against Palestine
wargoals: Israel: annex Palestine, Palestine: status quo

Libyan Civil War:
wargoals: GSLPAJ (Gaddhafi): annex Libyan Republic, Libyan Republic: annex Great Socialist Libyan People's Arab Jamahiriya

Have some rebels in:

Turkey: Kurd nationalists
India: Kashmiri nationalists
Uganda and the DRC: Christian rebels
Burma: Kachin, Karen and Sha nationalists
Thailand: Rebels asking for annexation of Pattani to Malaysia
Senegal: Casamance nationalists
Philippines: Muslim rebels
Colombia: Anarcho-Liberal and Communist rebels
Pakistan: Al-Qaeda
Yemen: Shi'ite rebels
Somalia: EVERYTHING. Bleurgh.
India: Communist rebels, in Orissa and Hyderabad
Syria: Jacobins
Bahrain: Jacobins

That's it for now.

[tamius23]

There are Turkish (Turkomans) people living in Mosul region.

Fascistic Turkey would just mean Neo-Ottoman Empire.

Which would be cool, wouldn't it? To play in a game with them? Especially if they're trying to eat Azerbaijan and the Central Asian republics to form Turkestan
I deeply apologize for posting twice...

edit: Those Turks in Mosul are massively outnumbered by Kurds, though.

[Aliasing]

There should be an event for unifying Korea too, either by Sphere or militarly (or even a diplomatic deal)

[tamius23]

There should be an event for unifying Korea too, either by Sphere or militarly (or even a diplomatic deal)

I think that's been gone over, too. also one is needed to unify Cyprus and any other unions:

eg. a greater germanic union, comprising Britain, the Netherlands, Flanders, Germany, Scandinavia, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland and Iceland. I'd love to see that. also: Turkestan, Arab unions, Greater Iran (Iran, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Baluchistan)

I could do a more complete list.

[Aliasing]

Remake the USSR maybe?

[tamius23]

Euh, so soon? It only conked out 20 years ago. Belarus would probably be up for being annexed by Russia, however.

Russia shouldn't have cores on the former USSR, otherwise their first act would be to eat Kazakhstan.

I think the USSR is been and gone, like Yugoslavia. Or the Roman Empire.

[Aliasing]

Yeah but remaking stuff for flavor is the dream of dictators everywhere!

Like how Mussolini tried to remake Rome

[ak94hawx]

Like how Mussolini tried to remake Rome

which he epicly failed at doing

[Aliasing]

which he epicly failed at doing

He was a living cartoon character, of course he did

[cyrylc]

Countries that start off at war:-

Armenia&Nagorno-Karabakh against Azerbaijan
wargoals: Armenia: none Azerbaijan: liberate Nagorna-Karabakh

There isn't a war there, just some skirmishes now and then, last one was on 1 September 2010, where 10-12 people were killed.

United States, UK, and some others against Afghanistan
wargoals: United States: add Afghanistan to sphere UK: humiliate Afghanistan Afghanistan: none

Afghanistan is currently rebuilding itself, with help of International Security Assistance Force, which is led by NATO.

Libyan Civil War:
wargoals: GSLPAJ (Gaddhafi): annex Libyan Republic, Libyan Republic: annex Great Socialist Libyan People's Arab Jamahiriya

Mod start date is 1 January 2011, Libyan Civil War started in February I think, it will be replicated in mod by events (Arab Spring or something).

[ak94hawx]

is thier anything i could do that might speed up this mod ?