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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggix View Post
    Why should Farör and Greenland be part of the Netherlands? Seriously what the hell. The Faroe Islands are according to wikipedia "a self-governing country under the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark". Thus it could either be a Danish sattelite (very impractical, since it has only very little importance), or part of Denmark. Same goes with Greenland. Apropos Greenland, if you have a map modder, make the central part of Greenland uncolonized land (which cannot be colonized, simply by giving it a low liferating (?)), and limit the provinces to the coast.
    It seems to be that the Faroes and Greenland are "autonomous countries under the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark." and they get represented in the Danish parliament. Thus, it looks like they ought to be part of Denmark, as Wales and Scotland are part of the UK.

    They seem to be in a similar status to Aruba and Curacao, which form constituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, but unlike French Guiana (a part of France), though represented the same way, and unlike the British Crown Dependencies, which are not part of the UK.

    Give Belize a turquoise color.

    How about modding in a Scottish and Welsh culture, and making them substates of Great Britain?
    I'm not sure about substates. I don't yet have AHD, so I don't know exactly how they work yet.

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    Sorry, got confused there. I for some reason thought that Greenland and Faroe were Dutch not Danish. Not sure why I thought that.

    But yes, under that system Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would be separate nations and Mexcio would be a million different little itty-bitty nations (“All constituent states of Mexico are fully autonomous and comprise a federation.” - Wikipedia - Devolution#Mexico),

    Here is the Belize file with the new colour, and a screenshot of what it looks like.



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    The colours in the box is a comparison between Belize and USA.

    Also, some suggestions I can't implement myself

    - Create a Canberra province in Australia

    - Seperate Tasmania province into its own state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamius23 View Post
    I'm not sure about substates. I don't yet have AHD, so I don't know exactly how they work yet.
    They are almost exactly like satellites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamius23 View Post
    I'm not sure about substates. I don't yet have AHD, so I don't know exactly how they work yet.
    They definately wouldn't be substates, in my opinion probably the single biggest deciding factor in whether or not something should be a puppet or substate would be if they have their own army/defence forces. Even if that wern't the case I can't see any reason to make them substates unless you're gonna make the Spanish regions substates or the US states.
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    IMO, Scotland, Wales etc should be started as a part of UK, Greenland and Faroe Islands should be colonial regions of Denmark, but associated states (like Puerto Rico or Andorra) should become substates.

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    Andorra and Monaco should most certainly be French satelitte's, and San Marino (if its on the map) should be an Italian satelitte. All those nations are defend by the other nation mentioned.

    Not sure substates work in non-AHD Vicky2.

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    All this satellites/substates/sovereign stuff has already been discussed.

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    Where? Point me at it?

    Because it just ain't realistic having Faroe and Greenland independent.

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    Are you sure they are independent?

    In history/diplomacy/PuppetStates.txt they are listed as vassal nations.

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    They are satellites, but that still counts technically as independent. I mean, the ruling nation looses access to their resources and military and they can be stolen from their sphere.

    PS: Is there a list of tasks someone could give me, so I know what needs doing that I can help with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjwalker View Post
    PS: Is there a list of tasks someone could give me, so I know what needs doing that I can help with?
    If you're in need of some drudge-work:

    -Political parties for every country in the world
    -POPs for every country in the world
    -Political and social reforms for every country
    -Standing armies and navies, which Hibernian has mostly done - they just need writing out into OOB format.
    -Events and decisions from the "Suggest an event" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjwalker View Post
    Andorra and Monaco should most certainly be French satelitte's, and San Marino (if its on the map) should be an Italian satelitte. All those nations are defend by the other nation mentioned.
    They begin in those respective countries' SoIs IIRC which effectively makes them defended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anjwalker View Post
    Not sure substates work in non-AHD Vicky2.
    They actually do not, it's an AHD only conception.

    Quote Originally Posted by tamius23 View Post
    -Political parties for every country in the world
    -Political and social reforms for every country
    I could take these ones for Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaximillian View Post
    I could take these ones for Russia.
    Sounds good.

    I think it would be best to try to translate political parties' names into English, if it can easily be done and there is an obvious translation. For example, the ruling Russian party would be "United Russia" but the ruling party in Taiwan would be "Kuomintang".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamius23 View Post
    I think it would be best to try to translate political parties' names into English, if it can easily be done and there is an obvious translation. For example, the ruling Russian party would be "United Russia" but the ruling party in Taiwan would be "Kuomintang".
    Well, Kuomintang is Nationalist Party in English. I'd rather go for all-or-nothing: either to give all names in local languages or to give everything in English.

    BTW, is the political spectrum the same for the purposes of the mod? Liberals-Anarcho Liberals-Conservatives-Reactionary-Socialist-Communist-Fascist?
    Oh, and the reforms as well. Were they changed from vanilla?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaximillian View Post
    Well, Kuomintang is National Party in English. I'd rather go for all-or-nothing: either to give all names in local languages or to give everything in English.
    I see. It wasn't immediately obvious, but I found that later. Go for entirely English then.

    BTW, is the political spectrum the same for the purposes of the mod? Liberals-Anarcho Liberals-Conservatives-Reactionary-Socialist-Communist-Fascist?
    Oh, and the reforms as well. Were they changed from vanilla?
    The political spectrum is all of those plus a Green ideology.

    The reforms are the same at the moment, but some will have to change (slavery, for example).

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    First off, I'd like to say thanks for including my Somaliland flags in the mod :3

    Second off, I did the CleanUp events for this mod if anyone wants them. I don't know if something like this has been posted here earlier but, well, here they are.

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    Will there be events to deactivate oil as supplies run out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenophon13 View Post
    Will there be events to deactivate oil as supplies run out?
    I was thinking about something like that earlier. It would certainly destroy the economies of countries like Kuwait.

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    Oil itself would not disappear for a long, long time. There's about 100 billion barrels of oil and natural gas in the outer continental shelf of the U.S., as well as Canadian oil sands (Estimated at 1 trillion barrels) and oil shale in Colorado/Wyoming(Also at 1 trillion barrels). The Canadian oil sands could meet all human needs for about 100 years. Oil might peak in places like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and such, but there will always be other ways of getting oil. You could also work in events for new forms of alternative energy.

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    I was thinking that renewable energy could be done with technology. Perhaps unlocking something like a factory that produces fuel with only electric gear as an input good, and then gradually improving it's output tech.

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