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    Amazing. Too bad that such events sequence are actually random - it would be great if AI-characters could calculate their lines of succession and act accordingly (maybe in CK2?).

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    Haha, that was excellent.
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    It's almost like it was in real life :O
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    Thanks for all the new comments! I didn't expect this to resurface.
    Quote Originally Posted by thrashing mad View Post
    Amazing. Too bad that such events sequence are actually random - it would be great if AI-characters could calculate their lines of succession and act accordingly (maybe in CK2?).
    They're random? That is too bad. Still, it made for a great narrative. I'll chalk it up to the "Enough monkeys to write Shakespeare" approach.
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    I guess when you turn your back on narrative it seems that narrative just writes itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliffracer RIP View Post
    I guess when you turn your back on narrative it seems that narrative just writes itself.
    That's pretty deep. But it certainly seems applicable here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    That's pretty deep. But it certainly seems applicable here.
    While in my case narrative grows and grows until it takes over my life. 1068 was such an eventful year in my game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    I must say that this is the most impressive thing I’ve ever witnessed in one of my CK games: Eudokia the über-Spy Master coldheartedly murdering her own little brother so that she could put her own infant son on the throne. Pretty much as soon as she gave birth to the little bundle of joy. Talk about motherly love trumping sisterly affection…

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    Not just that...she also made her husband his successor/co-emperor!

    You could slap this in a Byzantine history book and nobody would even notice. *laughs*

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    Here I am late to the party as ussual, but... yes. Absolutely, blood-like-liquid-nitrogen brilliant. Goes to prove what they say about older siblings resenting the attention the little ones get, doesn't it.

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    Ha! Loved it! As already noted, you could splice this right into actual Byzantine history and no one would know the difference. It fits perfectly. Now if Demetrios weren't as dumb as a box of rocks, he in turn would murder his wife and son and become emperor himself. But I suspect a more likely RP would be Eudokia murdering her no longer needed dumb, ugly, old husband and finding herself a more suitable consort.

    I had a somewhat similar in-family murder in my game just last night. My Count had two sons close in age. Once they got married, the older one had a son and the younger one had a daughter. Wife of Son #1 then murdered Son #2. As it happens, Son #1 is reasonably competent but badly disfigured (harelip). So one might suppose his beautiful wife found him physically distasteful and made arrangements with Son #2 but then got rid of him once he was no longer needed.

    But I'm not playing the Byzantines so it doesn't count.

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    Wow, could this be CK's Bronzemurder?

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    I hadn't heard of it before, but a quick Google search rectified that. An entertaining read, for sure. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    Thanks for all the new comments! I didn't expect this to resurface.
    They're random? That is too bad. Still, it made for a great narrative. I'll chalk it up to the "Enough monkeys to write Shakespeare" approach.
    I'm fairly certain it's not entirely random (eg. the event has a bunch of MTTH modifiers, including traits, having famiy n the line of succession, etc)
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    That would be even better. Regardless, from a narrative point of view, it all fit together beautifully.
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    Just read it and it was bloody awesome!

    Good that I yesterday decided to install CK again after a year's absence as this made me desperately want to play it again .
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    Awesome little story, it's so nice when CK actually provides you with logical consequences for your dubious choices :P
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    Clearly Stuyvesant got a copy of Crusader Kings that is infected with CK2 for added awesomeness Amazing sequence of events there, it's almost difficult to believe it was truly random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auray View Post
    Just read it and it was bloody awesome!

    Good that I yesterday decided to install CK again after a year's absence as this made me desperately want to play it again .
    Thanks! The nice thing about CK is that amazing stuff can happen at any time - it might be after a three-day epic, or it could be after five minutes of play. It's my favorite pick-up-and-play game of the Paradox titles.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGB View Post
    Awesome little story, it's so nice when CK actually provides you with logical consequences for your dubious choices :P
    That is an eloquent way of putting it. And thanks for reminding me of the fact that I made some pretty dubious decisions - all in the name of the greater good, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej I View Post
    Clearly Stuyvesant got a copy of Crusader Kings that is infected with CK2 for added awesomeness Amazing sequence of events there, it's almost difficult to believe it was truly random.
    Ah, I wish... (I did just pre-order CK2 yesterday). Regardless of whether it was randomness or not, it was the coolest thing I personally ever saw in CK in the six years I've had the game (wait, it's been six years already? I feel old...).
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