+ Reply to Thread
Page 367 of 517 FirstFirst ... 267 292 317 342 357 365 366 367 368 369 377 392 417 442 467 ... LastLast
Results 7,321 to 7,340 of 10329

Thread: The Presidents: 1836-1936 - An Interactive US AAR

  1. #7321
    Field Marshal King50000's Avatar
    Cities in MotionEuropa Universalis: ChroniclesHearts of Iron IIIEuropa Universalis: RomeSemper Fi
    Victoria 2Rome: Vae Victis

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    2,890
    Quote Originally Posted by thekinguter View Post
    Congratulations, President Hayden. May you never forget that the United States of America are not only the rich northern states with industry and big cities, but also the farmlands of the South.
    Let us hope he does not forget that the South is not just farmland, but many large industrial zones can be found there as well.

    -Roderick Khur

  2. #7322
    Resident Revolutionary blindgoose's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the ThroneEuropa Universalis: Rome
    Victoria 2Rome: Vae VictisMount & Blade: WarbandMount & Blade: With Fire and Sword

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    409
    Quote Originally Posted by thekinguter View Post
    Congratulations, President Hayden. May you never forget that the United States of America are not only the rich northern states with industry and big cities, but also the farmlands of the South.
    I should hope not! I count a good friend and Texan amongst my greatest advisors on agricultural policy. The farmer and laborer of equal parts responsible for any and all luxury in our nation. For they produce the food surpluses and export products which make our nation the envy of the world!

    To Senator Khur, I say that my assertion was not a universal rule, merely a generality. In general, the tyrants of industry are descendants of American "nobility".

  3. #7323
    First Secretary Frymonmon's Avatar
    Arsenal of DemocracyHearts of Iron 2: ArmageddonCities in Motion 2Crusader Kings IIDarkest Hour
    East India Company CollectionEU3 CompleteDivine WindFor the MotherlandHearts of Iron III
    Heir to the ThroneLead and GoldMarch of the EaglesVictoria: RevolutionsSemper Fi
    SengokuVictoria 2Victoria II: A House DividedVictoria II: Heart of Darkness500k club
    Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    758
    ((Now, this is completely off the current election results and whatnot - but I was just harking back to the old Antebellum updates and trying to match our characters to OTLs characters. Surprisingly enough, we came eerily similar, almost to the T, of antebellum Congressional politics. I've noticed instances of all the Congressional Giants (Clay, Webster, Calhoun), and the Whig's Warrior-Presidents (Harrison, Taylor) So, to end my random off-topic spurt, capital showing everyone.))
    Creator of World in Revolution
    <Haresus> [#WiR_Main] proves why monarchies and dictatorships are not completely rubbish.
    Awarded WritAAR of the Week Feb 05, 2012 | 3rd Place Winner of the AARland Choice AwAARds 2012 (Round 2) for Empire of the Pacific | Awarded Fan of the Week September 16th, 2012 | Awarded 2012 VictAARian Cross for Empire of the Pacific

  4. #7324
    General Riccardo93's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIEuropa Universalis 3Hearts of Iron IIIMarch of the EaglesRome Gold
    SengokuVictoria 2CK2: Holy Knight500k club

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Huntington, West Virginia
    Posts
    2,204
    Quote Originally Posted by Frymonmon View Post
    ((Now, this is completely off the current election results and whatnot - but I was just harking back to the old Antebellum updates and trying to match our characters to OTLs characters. Surprisingly enough, we came eerily similar, almost to the T, of antebellum Congressional politics. I've noticed instances of all the Congressional Giants (Clay, Webster, Calhoun), and the Whig's Warrior-Presidents (Harrison, Taylor) So, to end my random off-topic spurt, capital showing everyone.))
    ((I'm very interested about this... what similarities (policies, personalities) have you found, dear California Imperialist?))
    Franz Ferdinand von Habsburg-Lorraine (b. 18 December 1863) in theAhawk's A Federation of "Equals" , FoE Secondary/Voting Character : Deputy Yehoshua Rabinov (n. 30 May 1860)
    Marechal Pierre Maurice Pilon, War Commissar (b. 19 January 1866) in Thunderhawk's Edge of Europe , EoE Secondary Character: Director/Actor/Playwright Leo Frost (b. 1879)
    Prince Katsura Tarō, General and Prime Minister of Greater Japan (and the 'Civilian' Government in general) in Keldonia's A Question of Power
    Marcus Servilius Geminus (b. 29 May 671 AVC) in Plank of Wood's SPQR - The Republic of Rome , Salvatore Mauro (b. 1879) in Dadarian's The Family
    Fan of the Week 10.7.12 , 1.6.14 : Role PlayAAR of the Month June, 2014
    Has the Invisible Pink Unicorn's divine horn been thrust into you today? Well, has it!?
    "We don't want to not kill people, we want to win." ~ Keperry, 2014

  5. #7325
    Lt. General Mikeboy's Avatar
    Cities in Motion 2Crusader Kings IIEuropa Universalis: ChroniclesHearts of Iron III CollectionMarch of the Eagles
    Victoria: RevolutionsSengokuSupreme Ruler: Cold WarVictoria 2Victoria II: A House Divided
    Victoria II: Heart of Darkness500k club

    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    UK, circa 1912
    Posts
    1,339
    Quote Originally Posted by Frymonmon View Post
    ((Now, this is completely off the current election results and whatnot - but I was just harking back to the old Antebellum updates and trying to match our characters to OTLs characters. Surprisingly enough, we came eerily similar, almost to the T, of antebellum Congressional politics. I've noticed instances of all the Congressional Giants (Clay, Webster, Calhoun), and the Whig's Warrior-Presidents (Harrison, Taylor) So, to end my random off-topic spurt, capital showing everyone.))
    ((May I ask who you've equated to Cameron and Glynn? I know Glynn isn't antebellum but if you do have someone.))

    The victory of Hayden casts a dark shadow over these United States. One can only hope that we can best maintain the rights of the people of America without holding the Oval Office. I must also say however that I think we the ACP and our allies in the Federal Party made a respectable showing and would like to thank everyone who assisted me on the campaign. God bless you all.
    Last edited by Mikeboy; 02-01-2012 at 05:14.
    Amanda Shaw, Secretary of the Interior (b. 1890)
    in BigBadBob's The Presidents 1836-1936 an Interactive V2 AAR

    Alfonz Aljaz of the State of the South Slavs (b. 1800)
    in theAhawks's A Federation of "Equals"

    Empire's dead, the issues inherent with creating a functional mod of that timespan are just too much.

  6. #7326
    Mayor zagoroth's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIHearts of Iron IIIVictoria 2Victoria II: A House Divided

    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    1,055
    (Yeah, I am curious to see an analysis of our antebellum politics, it was really an interesting time in this AAR.)

    We can only hope, Mr. Orleans, to negotiate with Hayden and Harrison, to make sure their policies are limited only to the truly harmful monopolies.
    Daniel (Danny) Dagher, Mayor of New York City
    in BBB's American AAR


    Senatore di Venezia, Leone de Marino. Interior Minister of the Republic of Cisalpina

    In Ahawk's Federation of Equals Interactive AAR.


    Pedro de Cordova.

    In ThunderHawks Interactive V2 AAR

  7. #7327
    First Secretary Frymonmon's Avatar
    Arsenal of DemocracyHearts of Iron 2: ArmageddonCities in Motion 2Crusader Kings IIDarkest Hour
    East India Company CollectionEU3 CompleteDivine WindFor the MotherlandHearts of Iron III
    Heir to the ThroneLead and GoldMarch of the EaglesVictoria: RevolutionsSemper Fi
    SengokuVictoria 2Victoria II: A House DividedVictoria II: Heart of Darkness500k club
    Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    758
    ((John Hensdale - He has John C. Calhoun written all over him. Both of them held radical beliefs early on, Nullification for Calhoun and SNP for Hensdale, but near the end, displayed great lengths and huge calls to keep the Union together. Calhoun's time was in the 1850 Debates about the Compromise, with Hensdale teaming up with Brass to run for the Presidency.

    Thomas J.L. Davis - Not much of a man, more of the personification and manifestation of the "Fire Eaters" at the time. Davis was remarkable in steering the emotions of the South towards sectionalism, which caused the creation of the SNP - and the very early split of National parties to Regional parties (In OTL it was time and all the Fire Eaters that did this, in TTL we have Davis.

    Nicholas Khur - Although expanding into the Civil War, Khur reminds me most of William Tecumseh Sherman. Both born in the North, living in the South by the time war breaks out, they migrate North to engage in actives against the South in order to preserve the Union.

    John F. Cameron - A hard one to place, for sure - but President Cameron holds his places as James K. Polk. Cameron and Polk, in a sense, both brought Texan Slavery to the United States. Both presidents also oversaw the Mexican-American war - and the Mexican cession along with it. Where Polk failed, Cameron succeeded by winning another term, generally keeping the nation pleased with themselves, and avoiding the big boiling pit that was the Slavery Debate.

    Jeremiah Brass - Now this would be based widely on speculation of course, but I'd give Brass the benefit of being President Taylor. Staunchly against compromise and unwilling to allow concessions, Brass's mentality closely reflects what President Taylor would have done given the situation. Unfortunately for the SNM at the time, President Brass did not die randomly like Taylor did during the 1850 Compromise.

    Jeremiah Williams - Although logically tied to the 16th President, Jeremiah Williams more closely represents a manifestation of the Radical Republicans. Before the Civil War both Williams and the Republicans wished to enter into compromise, to a degree, about the slavery issue. However, once the Civil War broke out - both Williams and Republicans took a sharp curve towards emancipation and the destruction of the South country. Williams is an example of how OTLs 1860s Congress would have won the war and entered into Reconstruction.

    I'll update this as I get more time.))
    Last edited by Frymonmon; 02-01-2012 at 15:56.
    Creator of World in Revolution
    <Haresus> [#WiR_Main] proves why monarchies and dictatorships are not completely rubbish.
    Awarded WritAAR of the Week Feb 05, 2012 | 3rd Place Winner of the AARland Choice AwAARds 2012 (Round 2) for Empire of the Pacific | Awarded Fan of the Week September 16th, 2012 | Awarded 2012 VictAARian Cross for Empire of the Pacific

  8. #7328
    Field Marshal King50000's Avatar
    Cities in MotionEuropa Universalis: ChroniclesHearts of Iron IIIEuropa Universalis: RomeSemper Fi
    Victoria 2Rome: Vae Victis

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    2,890
    ((Good luck finding an antebellum for Jamous
    And I never thought of Khur and Sherman being that similar, food for thought))

  9. #7329
    Share Our Wealth! Seek75's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIDarkest HourEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne
    Victoria 2Victoria II: A House Divided

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    New Netherland, Americalanavanyia
    Posts
    2,797
    ((Did Sebastian Carr remind you of anyone? There's no one that I can think of (especially because of my absence during the Mexican-American War) that would really fit him, but you might have different thoughts. It'd be interesting if there was anyone he could equate to!))
    A rebel without a cause.

  10. #7330
    Lt. General Mikeboy's Avatar
    Cities in Motion 2Crusader Kings IIEuropa Universalis: ChroniclesHearts of Iron III CollectionMarch of the Eagles
    Victoria: RevolutionsSengokuSupreme Ruler: Cold WarVictoria 2Victoria II: A House Divided
    Victoria II: Heart of Darkness500k club

    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    UK, circa 1912
    Posts
    1,339
    ((I never really related Polk and Cameron, primarily because Polk was unpopular whereas Cameron is still probably the most popular President of the AAR.))
    Amanda Shaw, Secretary of the Interior (b. 1890)
    in BigBadBob's The Presidents 1836-1936 an Interactive V2 AAR

    Alfonz Aljaz of the State of the South Slavs (b. 1800)
    in theAhawks's A Federation of "Equals"

    Empire's dead, the issues inherent with creating a functional mod of that timespan are just too much.

  11. #7331
    General in Chief of the CSA Projekt 919's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IICommander: Conquest of the AmericasFor the MotherlandHearts of Iron IIIHOI3: Their Finest Hour
    March of the EaglesSemper FiVictoria 2500k clubEuropa Universalis IV

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    In Exile
    Posts
    1,432
    ((Really Intresting analysis overall, very good . Although I am obliged to mention that you got old T.J.L. Davis' middle names backwards .))

    ((I like how T.J.L. Davis was an Idea....................hmmmm..................... ......."There once was a dream that was the south, and in TTL it was called T.J.L. Davis" ))
    1st Knight and Grandmaster of the Order of Southern Paradoxians
    Unreconstructed and Nationalist Southern Intellectual
    Descendant of James Clarke Taylor, Who's 34th Georgia Regiment was sacrificed in vain by General Pemberton in an attempt to slow the Northern Armies
    A believer in that faint glimmer of hope that we Southerners will not fall into the dustbin of history and may one day have our own Country Again
    Avid reader and student of Faulkner
    Expert on North Korea and lover of History in General
    Permenant Fan (And within Paradox Games, Player) of Lost Causes
    Student of International Affairs
    Confederate Ronin of Clan Taylor, second to Tufto-san, the Daimyo of Groan
    (Join the Order of Southern Paradoxians at: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...hp?groupid=531 and I will send you your Number by PM)

  12. #7332
    Lt. General atomicsoda's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIEuropa Universalis 3Divine WindFor the MotherlandHearts of Iron III
    Heir to the ThroneEuropa Universalis III: In NomineEU3 Napoleon's AmbitionSemper FiVictoria 2
    Victoria II: A House DividedVictoria II: Heart of Darkness500k clubEuropa Universalis IV: Pre-order

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    British Columbia, Dominion of Canada
    Posts
    1,562
    Quote Originally Posted by Frymonmon View Post
    ((John Hensdale - He has John C. Calhoun written all over him. Both of them held radical beliefs early on, Nullification for Calhoun and SNP for Hensdale, but near the end, displayed great lengths and huge calls to keep the Union together. Calhoun's time was in the 1850 Debates about the Compromise, with Hensdale teaming up with Brass to run for the Presidency.

    Thomas L.J. Davis - Not much of a man, more of the personification and manifestation of the "Fire Eaters" at the time. Davis was remarkable in steering the emotions of the South towards sectionalism, which caused the creation of the SNP - and the very early split of National parties to Regional parties (In OTL it was time and all the Fire Eaters that did this, in TTL we have Davis.

    Nicholas Khur - Although expanding into the Civil War, Khur reminds me most of William Tecumseh Sherman. Both born in the North, living in the South by the time war breaks out, they migrate North to engage in actives against the South in order to preserve the Union.

    John F. Cameron - A hard one to place, for sure - but President Cameron holds his places as James K. Polk. Cameron and Polk, in a sense, both brought Texan Slavery to the United States. Both presidents also oversaw the Mexican-American war - and the Mexican cession along with it. Where Polk failed, Cameron succeeded by winning another term, generally keeping the nation pleased with themselves, and avoiding the big boiling pit that was the Slavery Debate.

    Jeremiah Brass - Now this would be based widely on speculation of course, but I'd give Brass the benefit of being President Taylor. Staunchly against compromise and unwilling to allow concessions, Brass's mentality closely reflects what President Taylor would have done given the situation. Unfortunately for the SNM at the time, President Brass did not die randomly like Taylor did during the 1850 Compromise.

    I'll update this as I get more time.))

    Jeremiah Williams - Abraham Lincoln. Williams was a moderate abolitionist who wanted to keep the peace, but when war came he would not compromise with the south and issued the emancipation proclamation.
    Henri Renard - Minister of Wallonia - Deputy for Liege -KKP- Brewer/Entrepreneur - Died of sepsis following a wound suffered during a duel with the Viscount
    Formerly Simon Giroux - Minister of Labour - Deputy for Charleroi - Belgian Social Union - Deputy Leader

    Formerly Willem Goossens - Deputy for Brugge - conservative - President of Belgian Veterans Society 1818-1871
    Originally Jean Galler - Deputy for Brussels - Constitutional Delegate and Signer of Belgium Constitution
    in Edge of Europe- A Belgian Interactive V2 AAR

  13. #7333
    Field Marshal King50000's Avatar
    Cities in MotionEuropa Universalis: ChroniclesHearts of Iron IIIEuropa Universalis: RomeSemper Fi
    Victoria 2Rome: Vae Victis

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    2,890
    Quote Originally Posted by atomicsoda View Post
    Jeremiah Williams - Abraham Lincoln. Williams was a moderate abolitionist who wanted to keep the peace, but when war came he would not compromise with the south and issued the emancipation proclamation.
    ((And that is where the similarities end, seeing as how Lincoln wanted to let the south off easy, where you basically went in to destroy them.))

  14. #7334
    First Secretary Frymonmon's Avatar
    Arsenal of DemocracyHearts of Iron 2: ArmageddonCities in Motion 2Crusader Kings IIDarkest Hour
    East India Company CollectionEU3 CompleteDivine WindFor the MotherlandHearts of Iron III
    Heir to the ThroneLead and GoldMarch of the EaglesVictoria: RevolutionsSemper Fi
    SengokuVictoria 2Victoria II: A House DividedVictoria II: Heart of Darkness500k club
    Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    758
    ((I take a lot of factors into account when assigning historical leader to our characters. I choose Polk for Cameron mostly because Polk WAS popular in the South, and mildly in the North, because of his appeal of Manifest Destiny, Texas for the South, "54-40 Or Fight!" for the North. For Williams, I updated my list. He isn't Honest Abe, in my opinion anyway.))
    Creator of World in Revolution
    <Haresus> [#WiR_Main] proves why monarchies and dictatorships are not completely rubbish.
    Awarded WritAAR of the Week Feb 05, 2012 | 3rd Place Winner of the AARland Choice AwAARds 2012 (Round 2) for Empire of the Pacific | Awarded Fan of the Week September 16th, 2012 | Awarded 2012 VictAARian Cross for Empire of the Pacific

  15. #7335
    Lt. General atomicsoda's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIEuropa Universalis 3Divine WindFor the MotherlandHearts of Iron III
    Heir to the ThroneEuropa Universalis III: In NomineEU3 Napoleon's AmbitionSemper FiVictoria 2
    Victoria II: A House DividedVictoria II: Heart of Darkness500k clubEuropa Universalis IV: Pre-order

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    British Columbia, Dominion of Canada
    Posts
    1,562
    Quote Originally Posted by King50000 View Post
    ((And that is where the similarities end, seeing as how Lincoln wanted to let the south off easy, where you basically went in to destroy them.))
    Lincoln had a harsh war strategy, no softer than Williams in this AAR. Williams did not impose a harsh reconstruction. He appointed Jamous to lead reconstruction.
    Henri Renard - Minister of Wallonia - Deputy for Liege -KKP- Brewer/Entrepreneur - Died of sepsis following a wound suffered during a duel with the Viscount
    Formerly Simon Giroux - Minister of Labour - Deputy for Charleroi - Belgian Social Union - Deputy Leader

    Formerly Willem Goossens - Deputy for Brugge - conservative - President of Belgian Veterans Society 1818-1871
    Originally Jean Galler - Deputy for Brussels - Constitutional Delegate and Signer of Belgium Constitution
    in Edge of Europe- A Belgian Interactive V2 AAR

  16. #7336

  17. #7337
    Lt. General WelshDude's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IISengokuVictoria 2Victoria II: A House Divided

    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Colwyn Bay
    Posts
    1,553
    ((No way in hell is Williams Abe Lincoln.))
    My current AAR, A Welshman's Quest for Doritos. Fetch the doritos, and settle down to wathc my comedy of errors! On hiatus at the moment.

    The President's 1836-1936: Potentially with more zombies.

    John Sharp, Federal senator for Indiana in The Presidents, born 1882.
    Formerly Eldud Walsh, former President in The Presidents. Then George Walsh, Democratic Senator for Virginia.

    FNT Candidate for President David Bevan, born 1857 in the Shadow of the Andes. Come and join the fun!

  18. #7338
    Field Marshal King50000's Avatar
    Cities in MotionEuropa Universalis: ChroniclesHearts of Iron IIIEuropa Universalis: RomeSemper Fi
    Victoria 2Rome: Vae Victis

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    2,890
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDude View Post
    ((No way in hell is Williams Abe Lincoln.))
    ((My point precisely. If it hadn't been for Jamous, the South would not have been reconstructed under Williams.))

  19. #7339
    Major Rogov's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    The Republic of Man, an alternate U.S. where Jefferson and Paine's ideas held more sway early on.
    Posts
    645
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeboy View Post
    ((I never really related Polk and Cameron, primarily because Polk was unpopular whereas Cameron is still probably the most popular President of the AAR.))
    (( How do you figure that? I've only ever heard you say that. Going by that scale isn't Arthur King more popular, as at least he had someone that wasn't him calling him the best president ever? ))
    Dio Guerrero from Arica (b. 1836), Communist, democrat, Resistance fighter in ThunderHawk's "Shadow of the Andes" AAR

    Liberal philosopher and Nantucket native Prof. Simon Firefly in BBB's "The Presidents" Interactive AAR


    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that, if you will only legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, their prosperity will leak through on those below. The democratic idea, however, has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous, their prosperity will find its way up through every class which rests up on them. - William Jennings Bryan (1896)

  20. #7340
    Lt. General WelshDude's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IISengokuVictoria 2Victoria II: A House Divided

    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Colwyn Bay
    Posts
    1,553
    ((John F. Cameron was probably the best president in this AAR, and I say that as someone who tried to unseat him twice.))
    My current AAR, A Welshman's Quest for Doritos. Fetch the doritos, and settle down to wathc my comedy of errors! On hiatus at the moment.

    The President's 1836-1936: Potentially with more zombies.

    John Sharp, Federal senator for Indiana in The Presidents, born 1882.
    Formerly Eldud Walsh, former President in The Presidents. Then George Walsh, Democratic Senator for Virginia.

    FNT Candidate for President David Bevan, born 1857 in the Shadow of the Andes. Come and join the fun!

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts