I'm tempted to tell you guys to ease up, so just know that.
We're getting a little too close to a no debate-all slander primary.
We're getting a little too close to a no debate-all slander primary.
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I thank the voices of reason that have put this primary back on track. The foolishness of the past few days was nothing more than a sideshow rather than the true issues this nation needs to address. When I talk to the families of soldiers that have served under me, and the Americans struggling to make a better life for their families, I ask them what things give them worry. At no point have I ever heard, "General, we must maintain the free market education system! I would much rather have the freedom to spend hundreds of dollars I don't have on my child's education!" I look around and see a status quo that most Americans settle for because they don't believe anything better could come along. As the government, protectors of the Common Good, we have a responsibility to enable Americans to seize t
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I'd be surprised if this game hasn't gone past the half-way mark. I'm wondering if there's still room for a new role-player? I assure you, I will make you seem like corrupt, dishonest, good-for-nothing, inept, hawkish politicians, not anarchists! Except for whichever party I become a part of, then it's different (unless I smell a bandwagon).
((New characters are always welcome. You can even vote for President without making a character.))
((Hey! look who has joined us. If you carry out the same policies you carried out with china we might be in for a rough ride
. I would recommend you join the new Democrats (because there the best) but the choice is yours))
(The New Democrats eat babies, join the Republicans).
(Can we call this BBB, this primary is giving me a bad taste in my mouth).
(Can we call this BBB, this primary is giving me a bad taste in my mouth).
(Does anyone have a brief overview of the parties, and their stances?)
(Also, assuming Mexico has been whipped as any good American would want to happen to Mexico.)
(Also, assuming Mexico has been whipped as any good American would want to happen to Mexico.)
((I think there may be a link in the first post that says about the parties, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, Mexico got a good beating a while ago.))
EDIT: Heres the link: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...ts-1836-1936-An-Interactive-US-AAR&p=12782312
((BBB, just to clarify, are their railroads connection the east and west coast? I remember a trans continental railway being proposed a few elections back.
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(I am disappointed. Every party's dominant view on federal power is that it reigns supreme! Republican and Democratic foreign policy is far too hawkish, but the Libertarians are so scary everything else counterbalances their less global but still radical policy. Has slavery been abolished? Since the Civil War happened, it must be insane for anyone to seriously consider keeping slavery for much longer than a decade.)
(I'm going to be a Senator from Maryland. Assuming no one wants to be from Maryland, which is good for me. Also, seems I'm most sympathetic towards the Republicans. Sorry, Swedish Prime Minister.)
character biography in the making.
(I'm going to be a Senator from Maryland. Assuming no one wants to be from Maryland, which is good for me.
Also, seems I'm most sympathetic towards the Republicans. Sorry, Swedish Prime Minister.)character biography in the making.
((My character issued the emancipation proclamation during the Civil War. Gloa wrote a summary of all events that is linked to in the table of contents.))
((Seems like no matter what the Libertarians and New Democrats do, the Republicans are going to win, due to the sheer amount of people they have in their party
And as a side request, BBB can you make a rulling about this constant "new democrats eat babies" that has been seen in both this election and the past two election. It is really starting to make me, and others not in the New Democrats, uncomfortable.))
And as a side request, BBB can you make a rulling about this constant "new democrats eat babies" that has been seen in both this election and the past two election. It is really starting to make me, and others not in the New Democrats, uncomfortable.))
(I am disappointed. Every party's dominant view on federal power is that it reigns supreme! Republican and Democratic foreign policy is far too hawkish, but the Libertarians are so scary everything else counterbalances their less global but still radical policy. Has slavery been abolished? Since the Civil War happened, it must be insane for anyone to seriously consider keeping slavery for much longer than a decade.)
(I'm going to be a Senator from Maryland. Assuming no one wants to be from Maryland, which is good for me.
character biography in the making.
((Be a True American, give the forces of reaction a try
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((I thought if anything the socialists and Vinogradists were over-represented?))
((Nope, the Republican party is a HUGE bandwagon. The majority of its members just didnt vote last election))
((Gloa is a bit of a record-keeper for this AAR...but I don't mind at all.))
Character: Benjamin Rutledge
Benjamin Rutledge (Portrait of John Dickinson)
A member of the Rutledge family, Benjamin Rutledge was born in 1829. He has always been proud of being a heir of the Rutledge family. While slavery has been abolished, Benjamin Rutledge maintains a 500-hectare plantation in Maryland, which focuses on producing wheat and fine flour, with an attached 75-hectare plantation for producing tobacco for family and local use. A staunch Unionist, his predominant reason for maintaining a political relationship with the United States during the Civil War was the belief that the Confederacy could not win. Benjamin Rutledge was right, but he was unable to escape the Confederate army's pillaging of his estate.
Unlike most other commercial planters, he was able to escape being forced into freeing his slaves. Benjamin Rutledge freed them beforehand and offered token wages in order to offer slaves an incentive to both continue working on the plantation and refrain from stealing, or else they would have to pay for it collectively. He is on very bad terms with Libertarians in Maryland, and harbors a very strong hatred of Christopher R. Byran. Due to the inherent contradiction of communism by allowing the Rutledge estates to continue functioning, Benjamin Rutledge has both fear and anger for the Libertarian Party. He has reportedly issued bulletins and offered financial incentives to newspapers to publish articles denouncing the Libertarians, but the majority of these accusations come from local family farmers and Libertarians.
He dislikes the idea of government intervention in the market, fearing it would create a slippery slope that would bode well to interfere with the welfare of his estates, and holds the same view regarding the federal government as a whole. Holding the belief the United States should not interfere with the affairs of others with the exception of its immediate neighbors and certain South American countries, Benjamin Rutledge could be defined as an isolationist and somewhat of a Quaker. The States are paramount and supreme in his opinion, and the military should not be allowed to do much other than ensure domestic tranquility and stability in neighbors. Trade should be encouraged with Mexico, but the United States should make sure Mexico is subservient to no country but the United States.
Benjamin Rutledge has been described as a Conservative whose views align with Adam Smith's, and someone who favors the current system of governance, fearing the tyranny that could be imposed on the small handful of commercial landowners and members of the gentry / upper-class by agitated citizens and populism. Land reform is the last thing Benjamin Rutledge desires. Winning over his contender in the Maryland General Assembly, his pacifist and laissez-faire ideas attracted many sympathizers, and the limitation of federal power, while not as much of an issue in Maryland, also earned him some support among a vocal but small portion of the Maryland General Assembly. Through forming an alliance with other conservative landowners, Benjamin Rutledge could be attacked for protecting "monied interests", but he has been notably opposing corruption ever since. Benjamin Rutledge won 52.7% of the votes in the General Assembly, with his supporters predominantly conservative or fellow members of the gentry.
Party: Republican
Views: Laissez-faire, pacifism (except dealing with Mexico), limited federal power (supremacy of the states), isolationism / concentration of foreign policy on the Americas.
Reforms: Symbolic minimum wages, pensions for civil servants.
((I imagine pacifism is in a way unpopular. However, being part of a nation licking its wounds from the Civil War means I will not be attacked for such beliefs.))
Character: Benjamin Rutledge
Benjamin Rutledge (Portrait of John Dickinson)
A member of the Rutledge family, Benjamin Rutledge was born in 1829. He has always been proud of being a heir of the Rutledge family. While slavery has been abolished, Benjamin Rutledge maintains a 500-hectare plantation in Maryland, which focuses on producing wheat and fine flour, with an attached 75-hectare plantation for producing tobacco for family and local use. A staunch Unionist, his predominant reason for maintaining a political relationship with the United States during the Civil War was the belief that the Confederacy could not win. Benjamin Rutledge was right, but he was unable to escape the Confederate army's pillaging of his estate.
Unlike most other commercial planters, he was able to escape being forced into freeing his slaves. Benjamin Rutledge freed them beforehand and offered token wages in order to offer slaves an incentive to both continue working on the plantation and refrain from stealing, or else they would have to pay for it collectively. He is on very bad terms with Libertarians in Maryland, and harbors a very strong hatred of Christopher R. Byran. Due to the inherent contradiction of communism by allowing the Rutledge estates to continue functioning, Benjamin Rutledge has both fear and anger for the Libertarian Party. He has reportedly issued bulletins and offered financial incentives to newspapers to publish articles denouncing the Libertarians, but the majority of these accusations come from local family farmers and Libertarians.
He dislikes the idea of government intervention in the market, fearing it would create a slippery slope that would bode well to interfere with the welfare of his estates, and holds the same view regarding the federal government as a whole. Holding the belief the United States should not interfere with the affairs of others with the exception of its immediate neighbors and certain South American countries, Benjamin Rutledge could be defined as an isolationist and somewhat of a Quaker. The States are paramount and supreme in his opinion, and the military should not be allowed to do much other than ensure domestic tranquility and stability in neighbors. Trade should be encouraged with Mexico, but the United States should make sure Mexico is subservient to no country but the United States.
Benjamin Rutledge has been described as a Conservative whose views align with Adam Smith's, and someone who favors the current system of governance, fearing the tyranny that could be imposed on the small handful of commercial landowners and members of the gentry / upper-class by agitated citizens and populism. Land reform is the last thing Benjamin Rutledge desires. Winning over his contender in the Maryland General Assembly, his pacifist and laissez-faire ideas attracted many sympathizers, and the limitation of federal power, while not as much of an issue in Maryland, also earned him some support among a vocal but small portion of the Maryland General Assembly. Through forming an alliance with other conservative landowners, Benjamin Rutledge could be attacked for protecting "monied interests", but he has been notably opposing corruption ever since. Benjamin Rutledge won 52.7% of the votes in the General Assembly, with his supporters predominantly conservative or fellow members of the gentry.
Party: Republican
Views: Laissez-faire, pacifism (except dealing with Mexico), limited federal power (supremacy of the states), isolationism / concentration of foreign policy on the Americas.
Reforms: Symbolic minimum wages, pensions for civil servants.
((I imagine pacifism is in a way unpopular. However, being part of a nation licking its wounds from the Civil War means I will not be attacked for such beliefs.))
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Greetings, Mr. Rutledge! How goes the plantation?
((I certainly hope he's read my book...the True Americans could always use more members.))
((I certainly hope he's read my book...the True Americans could always use more members.
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I support Benjamin Bachmann as the Republican candidate for the election of 1872.
Greetings, Mr. Carr. My plantation bodes well, except for the premature razing of my crops by the rebels. I am pleased they have been extinguished, just as my annual revenues were for a while. Fortunately, the tobacco was not harmed, and I could sell it off and prevent famine. If I may ask, how is your family? I hear several of your relatives and their sons served in the military, and although I am against such a powerful military, I believe their actions were truly noble.
Mr. Jarvis, while I may be willing to hear your economic policies, I wish to hear more about your foreign and military policies. What will we do with Europe, and our brethren in the United Kingdom? They are fellow Englishmen, not averse to reason, and past grievances are no reason for future policy. I see no need to encourage war with them, for to have the navy that protects the maritime routes of commerce turned against us in a deliberate attempt to strangle would be a dangerous incident, and the armies of Britain, formidable and elegant, should not be allowed to have a reason to march across our border with Canada.
((Benjamin Rutledge is to a degree sympathetic towards the True Republicans, but if he hears anything about more involvement in the world and military expansion, he won't be too happy. Every Republican candidate's economic platform is good, which means you have no chance of convincing him in this area. If you talk about land reform, Benjamin Rutledge will go to your house and start a cane fight. ))
Greetings, Mr. Carr. My plantation bodes well, except for the premature razing of my crops by the rebels. I am pleased they have been extinguished, just as my annual revenues were for a while. Fortunately, the tobacco was not harmed, and I could sell it off and prevent famine. If I may ask, how is your family? I hear several of your relatives and their sons served in the military, and although I am against such a powerful military, I believe their actions were truly noble.
Mr. Jarvis, while I may be willing to hear your economic policies, I wish to hear more about your foreign and military policies. What will we do with Europe, and our brethren in the United Kingdom? They are fellow Englishmen, not averse to reason, and past grievances are no reason for future policy. I see no need to encourage war with them, for to have the navy that protects the maritime routes of commerce turned against us in a deliberate attempt to strangle would be a dangerous incident, and the armies of Britain, formidable and elegant, should not be allowed to have a reason to march across our border with Canada.
((Benjamin Rutledge is to a degree sympathetic towards the True Republicans, but if he hears anything about more involvement in the world and military expansion, he won't be too happy. Every Republican candidate's economic platform is good, which means you have no chance of convincing him in this area. If you talk about land reform, Benjamin Rutledge will go to your house and start a cane fight.
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Welcome, Mr. Rutledge! Your ideas on subjugating weak Central and South American states intrigues me, and I would like to subscribe to your news letter. ((I kid, I kid!))