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Thats Brilliant! Vote SNP, the only party with a sense of humor!
As I predicted. Well, the diluted Whigs and Democrats can run together as one of the three tickets if they want, but it is more imperative than ever for a true Whig to be on the official Whig platform - if the compromisers want to run, let them do it in the space reserved for the Democrats. The official Whig nominee must be a party stalwart.
That's why I strongly recommend that President King, Mr. Vinograd, and any other pro-abolition Whigs not run against each other in the primaries.
Think of it this way - if a "moderate" wins the Whig primary due to the stalwarts running against each other, that'll leave a "moderate" Whig, a "moderate" Democrat, and a SNP fire-eater. With the moderate vote split, the SNP could get into the White House and dishonor it with their presence.
We must shore up the Whig party for a true Whig candidate - which means we must unite around a single candidate in the primary, or else fear we lose it to the Half-Breeds.
As I predicted. Well, the diluted Whigs and Democrats can run together as one of the three tickets if they want, but it is more imperative than ever for a true Whig to be on the official Whig platform - if the compromisers want to run, let them do it in the space reserved for the Democrats. The official Whig nominee must be a party stalwart.
That's why I strongly recommend that President King, Mr. Vinograd, and any other pro-abolition Whigs not run against each other in the primaries.
Think of it this way - if a "moderate" wins the Whig primary due to the stalwarts running against each other, that'll leave a "moderate" Whig, a "moderate" Democrat, and a SNP fire-eater. With the moderate vote split, the SNP could get into the White House and dishonor it with their presence.http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...he-Presidents-1836-1936-An-Interactive-US-AAR
We must shore up the Whig party for a true Whig candidate - which means we must unite around a single candidate in the primary, or else fear we lose it to the Half-Breeds.
The truth is that currently the South party is overwhelmingly strong against the Democrats, the moderate Whigs, and the radical Whigs. We can either bow down to the full force of the Southern party, or go for a party that will give us half our desires. All I call for is one Democratic or Whig candidate to take the reins of the Democratic Republican party.
(( If I had to guess, the moderates of the Whigs and Democrats are going to end up on the Democrat ticket or at least the slot for the Democrat ticket - maybe they'll call themselves Democrats, National Union, Democratic-Republicans. That leaves the Whig ticket or slot for the Whig ticket for the abolitionists. And keep in mind that at least half of the "radical" or, as I have used, stalwart Whigs seem to not be too incredibly radical - both Omega and myself for instance are planning to vote FOR the Davis Plan, only the most radical of the radicals, Vinograd, seems to be voting against it. So the radical Whigs do have a chance - King won once as a blatant abolitionist, he can win again. The people voting Southern now wouldn't have voted for King before, and with the non-abolitionist vote split between Southerners and moderates, King has a serious chance of winning again.))
((King had strong support from moderate Whigs which actually tipped the scales [it was really looking like he might have lost earlier on]. It was only after Texas bled and the SNP broke off that the moderates started distancing from King's abolitionist stance.(( If I had to guess, the moderates of the Whigs and Democrats are going to end up on the Democrat ticket or at least the slot for the Democrat ticket - maybe they'll call themselves Democrats, National Union, Democratic-Republicans. That leaves the Whig ticket or slot for the Whig ticket for the abolitionists. And keep in mind that at least half of the "radical" or, as I have used, stalwart Whigs seem to not be too incredibly radical - both Omega and myself for instance are planning to vote FOR the Davis Plan, only the most radical of the radicals, Vinograd, seems to be voting against it. So the radical Whigs do have a chance - King won once as a blatant abolitionist, he can win again. The people voting Southern now wouldn't have voted for King before, and with the non-abolitionist vote split between Southerners and moderates, King has a serious chance of winning again.))
((King had strong support from moderate Whigs which actually tipped the scales [it was really looking like he might have lost earlier on]. It was only after Texas bled and the SNP broke off that the moderates started distancing from King's abolitionist stance.
Currently it looks like we have four basic party ideals.
Whigs -> Radical Whigs and Moderate Whigs.
Democrats -> SNP and Moderate Democrats.
An uneasy coalition is going to have to form one way or another. The realistically possible combinations are
Radical Whigs and Moderate Whigs ("Whig Party")
SNP and Moderate Democrats ("Democratic Party" "Southern Democratic Party" or something)
Moderate Democrats and Moderate Whigs ("Democratic-Republicans", "National Union Party", "Republican Party", "Moderate Party" etc.)
Moderate Democrats, Moderate Whigs, and Radical Whigs ("National Union Party")
The awkward thing for any coalition is that the fringes don't seem to like the moderates or any idea of moderate reconciliation - which is, I guess, the purpose of fringes. It sucks to be a moderate, I might say. ))
Seeing the state of this election, I propose that we Whigs put aside past rivalries - not as words to simply declare the abandonment of our beliefs and sound policies, but to emphasize our commitment to working together for the good of our country. I propose that we term the ticket we run on this election as the NATIONAL UNION PARTY, emphasizing how we look not to the interest of an esoteric few, but to the national whole. I furthermore urge like-minded senators and politicians from the Democratic party to join with this National Union ticket - not as party changers or Whigs, but as Americans. I offer to both the people of my party and to those Democrats who seek unity and the common good, cabinet positions so we may collectively discuss and transparently inform each other on government policy and council. I hope that King and the other Whig candidates would do likewise, seeing the wisdom in council of each other, and the benefit of working along with likeminded Democrats for common policies.
Here is what we share:
- The military is a fine institution and not one made for bullying and politicizing by discriminating with arbitrary ratios that would sap our national defense.
- That the whole of the country must be provided for fairly, as a union of common good, not simply one region pushing its weight around.
- That the grossest ills of slavery may be diminished and brought to rest, and that the discussion and work towards common goals in slavery may be done without bellicose rhetoric and thuggery.
- That the prosperity of a further industrializing and developing country, with infrastructure and development policies made to not discriminate against any region, must be assured.
- That the Union must be preserved.
((I think another primary system might work, given that coalitions may continue or warp around even more after this. I wish we could have semi-primaries, because I don't want the extremes of either fixed parties (which make it hard to form coalitions and compromises) or just plain discussion (in which any number of candidates can try their hand at things, given that there's no real leadership for any party save for the SNP*)
*And no doubt next election we will see even the SNP splinter off into those which support the radical reunification with Britain, and those which support the invasion of Tibet, given how we've delved into insanity so well thus far.))