The Presidents: 1836-1936 - An Interactive US AAR

[BigBadBob]

((What happened to the good Senator Hensdale's write off?))

Oh God. I knew I forgot something.

[Rogov]

Cameron is dead and we are at war with the perfidious South. Methinks I can relaunch my political career and finally destroy the SNM for all.

I suggest to the new president, in the strongest terms, that he disestablishes the loyalist finger of the SNM led by Khur, wipes away their old identity, and integrates those troops fully into the federal army as we mobilize troops and create new conscript formations.

All seasoned fighters will be needed to train and leaven units made up of primarily conscripts. We cannot have the romantic idea of keeping old units to meet their rivals on the field in this day and age.

Let this war be the final death of the Southern National Militia in all of its forms!

Also, immediate abolition in all territory we hold or capture would be nice.

I think I'll be president again in '61 after all. Not running for Pres this time around has its advantages - I can run in '61 according to the no more than twice in a row rule, seeing as I didn't run for pres but only as VP this time around.

[Mikeboy]

If Brass becomes President again I'll roll in my grave.

[Seek75]

((Whelp, with Sebastian's death, I suppose it's time to introduce his son.))

Name: Calvin C. Carr ((the triple C!))

Age: 30 (born 1828)

Political party: Independent, due to the chaos caused by the most recent election/whatever ends up being TTL's Radical Republicans

Shortish biography: Born from a marriage between former senator and vice president Sebastian Carr and a pretty Manhattan girl, Calvin was interested in politics early on just as his father had been, however he wanted to spend his time in Germany aiding the liberal pan-nationalist movement there. Therefore, he spent a large deal of his time in Germany, attempting to liberate the German people from the autocratic tyrannies of the many fragmented German states, primarily the Kingdom of Prussia. After having little success, Calvin decided to return home back to the United States. However, by the time he arrived home, the Union had already began to unravel, and his father had been brutally maimed by a bomb going off in his residence in Washington, D.C. He saw his father shortly before he died of his wounds, and was filled with anger and hatred towards the South and the secessionists. He has thus sworn to avenge his father's death and bring the Southern States back into the Union, even if he has to kill every person south of the Mason-Dixon Line to do it.

[Frymonmon]

Richmond, Virginia
Confederate States of America

Fellow Citizens,

We are now embroiled in a deep sense of longing for our Cause. Various state legislatures have been called up and declared secession from the United States. I do not celebrate the Death of President Cameron nor the man who killed him. This was not the way to bring about change, change should be done by the Governments themselves or the Citizens at the ballot box. Seeing as the Governments have decided upon secession, I join alongside them, and my native state of Alabama. I condone the rash actions taken by these states, for I feel compromise is the best way to achieve lasting peace and stability, however, given the grave situation we are in, I will side with the Southern States and their Confederacy. I will work with the news political establishment in Richmond and the old one in Washington to try and mediate a peace deal that can be accepted by both sides.

I will hope to see cooler heads prevail in this grave situation we find ourselves in.

God Rest President Cameron
God Save the Confederate States!
Ex-Senator James Davis

[Red Cesar]

I, Colonel Eric Vandrove, pledge my allegiance to the Union along with the almost entirely African American brigade I have raised! We shall march south and end the tyranny that the south inflicts upon it's black population! End slavery, end secession, end tyranny!

[Seek75]

((Oh, ya, just wanted to say, happy Independence Day ))

[Gloa]

((Assassinations and deaths galore! What a fitting way to enter the Civil War.

(Didn't cameron say once that if anyone kills him he'd rise from the dead and eat them alive?)

Hmm, but Harme's already dead. Apparently Col. Mandrake didn't just save the president's wife and avenge the assassination of Cameron by killing off the assassin, but he also PREVENTED THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.

If Brass becomes President again I'll roll in my grave.

"Here lies the grave of President Cameron.
Active in life, more active in death.
I'd stay away from this if I were you,
Who knows what his dead body will do nex-" ))


I propose that Khur's troops be placed as a special regiment in the Army of the Potomac, as the National Southern Militia, our first, but hopefully not our last, set of soldiers from our nation who reject this treason and work to reclaim their wayward region.

[Rogov]

If Brass becomes President again I'll roll in my grave.

I'll have the last laugh if I get to impose radical reconstruction.

[Seek75]

I'll have the last laugh if I get to impose radical reconstruction.

And unlike his father, who would have been opposed to such, Calvin will support it all too eagerly.

[Rogov]

Unfortunately I can predict the results now - dashing, president-avenging moderate-on-things-other-than-abolition (never seemed to disagree with abolition, just with attitudes towards the Southern military structure) Col. Mandrake, running for office and whooping me soundly.

But, as a military man, I don't think he'll abandon his post to run for political office - and even if he has Mandrake's endorsement, I'm pretty sure I can beat Vallejo - who seems to be the obvious candidate for the the new, less powerful leader of the Sympathizers now that Cameron is gone.

Mandrake is a good man, but his attitude of chivalry towards the Southern National Militia ignores the moral and constitutional principles at stake.

And I gave Vallejo a position in the government, yet he was quick to turn on me. But, young Mr.Carr, your father and I had views only separated by a tiny gap, and the rest was personality. He leaned more towards my positions than Cameron's, so I think you and I will get along fine.

Of course I (Jeremiah Brass) am pretty aged at this point, '61 will be my final shot at the White House if I do try to take it.

(( of course if I retire Brass now, I have a greater chance of earning glory in BBB's write ups with a military character son of Brass, increasing future post-war chances of running on a war hero ticket Grantesque

I'll also actually throw Projekt a bone here and add my voice in suggesting that BBB tinkers with the game a bit to give the Confederacy some foreign allies. I wouldn't want the Civil War, which has been and will probably be the largest event of this timeline - building up to it has dominated the game thus far, to end too quickly. ))

[Imperator1993]

sorry i have not been following but as a south carolina senator i of course follow and the south and join the noble confederate cause
Rest in Peace President Cameron long live the south

[BigBadBob]

I'll also actually throw Projekt a bone here and add my voice in suggesting that BBB tinkers with the game a bit to give the Confederacy some foreign allies. I wouldn't want the Civil War, which has been and will probably be the largest event of this timeline - building up to it has dominated the game thus far, to end too quickly. ))

Guys, to alleviate your fears of the war being too quick, here's the statistics (off the top of my head):

Techs: Full 1858 techs for both combatants.

Regular Brigades:
Union 36 (108,000 men)
Confederacy 26 (78,000 men)

Mobilizable Brigades:
Union 41 (123,000)
Confederacy 49 (147,000)

Total:
Union 77 (231,000)
Confederacy (225,000)

See, at least for the first year or so, the forces are going to be roughly equal. This is going to be a war where the Union will win only by grinding the South down to a pulp.

[Gloa]

I'm pretty sure I can beat Vallejo - who seems to be the obvious candidate for the the new, less powerful leader of the Sympathizers now that Cameron is gone.

Mandrake is a good man, but his attitude of chivalry towards the Southern National Militia ignores the moral and constitutional principles at stake.

And I gave Vallejo a position in the government, yet he was quick to turn on me. But, young Mr.Carr, your father and I had views only separated by a tiny gap, and the rest was personality. He leaned more towards my positions than Cameron's, so I think you and I will get along fine.

I do not know what my colleague in politics is insinuating here. I voted for Cameron over Hensdale. My position under the Brass administration, as well as the duties I undertook in the Walsh administration, do not constrain me to vote this way or that against my better judgement and hope for progress and reform in the nation.

Nevertheless, my colleague forgets that court precedent considers me to not be naturally born a citizen, due to my birth in what is now territory of the Union, but was not then. While the court may judge otherwise later, given this precedent I could not run uncontested for the presidency. Furthermore, why would I be President when I can serve my country well in other positions?

I am not against my colleague or any other Whig (for I do not know what better to term us, with all these changes of names), but I am for reform and I am for the Union. If that means I must run, then so be it. If it means to support one candidate over another, than I must do that.

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and now for an excerpt from:
The Hundred Miles, The Stories of the Civil War
Prologue

It was Christmas time. There was political turmoil, turmoil that would soon grow a deadly edge. William Gallatin was not concerned with either. On December 22nd, 1857, the U.S. ambassador to Mexico was back in his native Philadelphia in the house of his father.

Daniel Gallatin was dying. He had seen his old running mate Cameron again rise to the challenge and the presidency of a troubled nation. He would not see him die, fallen at last to the extremism of a country in distress.

William mentioned the latest news, angry speeches and impassioned letters in reaction to the split between the President and former Vice President Davis. His father listened with interest, but gave no sign of concern or fiery response as he once might have. When William finished, he asked “Is that all?”

“Yes, father.”

“William, I am dying. I wish I could have left you a better world than the one you will inherit, but it is your world nonetheless, and you will learn to face it. Tell Ignacio that too, when he arrives. I am frail, and the capital is far away.

Do you remember your history? Patrick Henry?”

William was puzzled by this request. “Somewhat.” he replied.

“Bring me the speeches book,” said his father, and William brought the old leather manual of Great American Speeches down. Daniel Gallatin began to read.

“We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on.

“Son, that is all I can say for myself, and for the good men like Mr. Cameron whose legacies you will face in these years. I do not know what you and Ignacio will face in your time, but stand with the Almighty and the unalienable rights that we have passed on into your teaching as well, and I do not doubt that your generation too can stand.”

Daniel Gallatin died later that day. President Cameron died the next, as I shall soon recount.

I was in New York at the time. The thunder of war broke out and I served in the 15th regiment of the region. From my experiences during that horrible war, from some newspaper clippings that I collected from those my family at home sent to me in the front, and from the recollections and letters I have gathered from my fellow soldiers, officers, generals, and politicians, I will present this narrative of a time now engraved deeply into our culture and history.

- George Fensworth

[Frymonmon]

Oh God. I knew I forgot something.

((You will fix that, right? I am writing a chapter for "The Hundred Miles" and I need to know how Hensdale dies.))

[BigBadBob]

((You will fix that, right? I am writing a chapter for "The Hundred Miles" and I need to know how Hensdale dies.))

I'll try. By the end of Tuesday, it should be fixed.

[Frymonmon]

I'll try. By the end of Tuesday, it should be fixed.

((Alright then. Perfect, twas all I really needed to know.))

[Marshall Daub]

Excerpt from the Washington Times, taken from the Indianapolis Star:


The moment we have feared for so long is upon us. We must now work right the wrongs that were allowed to transpire for so long to save the Union. This war will be ruinous, but from it we can rebuild this nation, the way it was envisioned, as a phoenix rises from its own ashes. Our enemies are our kin, our neighbors, and our friends, and they shall be after this war ends.

Though it pains me to do so under these circumstances, I will always fight to defend the Union. My solders in the 14th Hoosier Infantry stand with me - ready to visit the pain of Armageddon on those who would stand against our great nation and righteous cause. Contrary to rumors, former President Brass is correct in the assumption that I will not seek a political office in this time of crisis. I better serve my nation behind a rifle than behind a desk. Let us all now unite behind President Williams and march to victory!

Colonel Maximilian Mandrake




Caption: "A stern look from Colonel Mandrake is the last thing an assassin, Reb, or zombie President sees before a righteous beating."

[Seek75]

By God, the Southern secessionists, Confederates, and slaveholders will feel my wrath! My father spoke in the name of reason, of unity! He fought to defend this Union against all threats, and look how the fiends south of the Mason-Dixon repay him!

My father's wishes will be fulfilled. This Union will be whole, dammit, even if I had to kill every single person, traitor or not, to do it! Slavery will be completely and utterly destroyed in all of its shapes and forms, and I will see to it that any person who even dares to whisper the word "secession" will be tried for treason and shot like the brigands they are!

[Projekt 919]

By God, the Southern secessionists, Confederates, and slaveholders will feel my wrath! My father spoke in the name of reason, of unity! He fought to defend this Union against all threats, and look how the fiends south of the Mason-Dixon repay him!

My father's wishes will be fulfilled. This Union will be whole, dammit, even if I had to kill every single person, traitor or not, to do it! Slavery will be completely and utterly destroyed in all of its shapes and forms, and I will see to it that any person who even dares to whisper the word "secession" will be tried for treason and shot!

No offence is meant Calvin. Your father was a good man and his death was unfortunate. The Same applies to president Cameron and I am deeply sorry for whateer inderect role I played in his death. But back to the point, your fathers death was unforunaute but it is also irrelevant in this case. The war is not a issue of repaying him, but one of protecting our People. ((See "The South Will Fight"))