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    Quote Originally Posted by komisha View Post
    Show me where my actions have deviated from the law.

    Just because I have not yet reached the final step does not mean I'm not following the letter of the law. I only had a month or two after the peace. so cut me a break.

    At this point anyone who promises a plebiscite in Cuba is just saying they won't seek to repeal legislation.
    The Cuban Liberty Act from 1857 is old, and written with Imperialistic ambitions in mind. The idea of Cuban democracy in our parents' generation was to "convince" the Cubans to become a part of the Union, not to actually let them decide for themselves. That's why we need a new Cuban Democracy Act, that begins with the Cuban electing their own Ruling Council, and then is quickly folloed up with a vote on Cuba's status. We are not living in 1857 anymore, but in 1880. As the leading democracy it is our duty to allow both the Philippines and Cuba decide their own fate, since that's the democratic way.
    Joshua Nightmore in The Presidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Projekt 919 View Post
    ((Would you mind directing me to his character post?))
    James Harrison's life after 1873 has been documented rather extensively in the updates since he's TTL's Roosevelt, but for 1840-73, here you go.
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    I agree with Mr. Nightmore; the Cuban Liberty Act is outdated, and was imperialistic; hopefully, we can return to our peaceful, trade-oriented foreign policy of old under my admnistration.

    (Weird... why did practically no-one vote?))
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    ((Because everyone agrees with me and followed my lead by abstaining until one of the nominees changes their foreign policy and gives our true allies the aid they deserve against the French dogs ))
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourworstnightm View Post
    As the leading democracy it is our duty to allow both the Philippines and Cuba decide their own fate, since that's the democratic way.
    And both aims are unanimously supported by all candidates. Nothing in your bill differentiate your ideas except the article subjecting Cubans to the opportunists of the power vacuum and aristocrats of the old regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King50000 View Post
    ((Because everyone agrees with me and followed my lead by abstaining until one of the nominees changes their foreign policy and gives our true allies the aid they deserve against the French dogs ))
    ((That explains it... I applaud it and shall immediately change my platform ))
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    I just updated Harrison's list of jobs in the character post. Good God, it is long.
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    An Updated Bio

    President Joe Hayden
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    Joe Hayden was a fisherman and union organizer working in Boston, Massachusetts. He was born Jose Ibarura in New York City to a family of fishermen on January 13, 1837. His father left Spain at age sixteen in order to go to America and make a better life for himself. Upon moving to Boston for work he anglicized his name and got involved in the local immigrant fishermen circles. He was a founding member of the Fisherman's Benevolent Association and has been a long term labor militant and organizer for the rights of fishermen and their families. One of his mentors in the burgeoning immigrant workers' movement was a German by the name of Maximilian Schachtmann and he introduced Joe to the works of Karl Marx, Freidrich Engels, Caeser Vinograd, and Henri de Saint-Simon. Joe became a convinced Marxist, Abolitionist, and Internationalist. During the Civil War, Hayden joined the Union Army and fought under the command of General Mandrake, eventually rising to the rank of Sergeant. After the war, Hayden moved back to Boston and got involved with the local Libertarian Party and became one of the strongest organizers of the Marxist-Vinogradist wing of the party. He wrote several polemics in response to National Vinogradism and the conservatives and liberals represented in the Congress. Within the Libertarian Party he was an advocate of the Vanguard role of the Party, of Radical Reconstruction, of Protectionism, of fighting for Social Reforms, and of Social Revolution. He organized the NLU's maritime trades affiliate. He was elected Mayor of Boston on a reform platform in the 1864 elections and joined the Social Unionist wing of the Libertarian Party in response to Col. Vandroves' call for insurrection.

    After a successful tenure as a reformist Mayor of Boston, Hayden successfully ran for the Senate from Massachusetts. He remained a steadfast member of the Libertarian Party until its disintegration, afterwards joining the Federalist Party. He remains convinced of the faults of the current system, but has committed himself to change through reform and political office. Upon the election of President Bridgeworthy, Hayden was appointed Secretary of Industry. After the re-alignment of politics after the election of Vallejo, Hayden switched to the Democratic Party and announced his candidacy for the Presidency. After losing the 1889 election to Samuel Lee Davis, he toured incessantly giving speeches to workers' and immigrants' groups. Running again in 1893, Hayden narrowly won after the economy crashed during Davis' turn. Implementing public works programs and establishing the National Industrial Relations Council to mediate disputes between business and labor, leading to the recovery of the economy. His daughter, Erica Hayden-Vallejo, was elected Representative of New York City as a Federalist in 1894. He ran for a second term in 1897 with Federalist James Harrison as his Vice Presidential candidate on a coalition anti-trust ticket against one of the trust magnates himself, Richard Orleans. The election was close, but ultimately came out in Hayden's favor, he would be the first two-term President since Michael Jamous won a second term in 1869. Hayden died in office on June 6, 1899 after a former ACP member named George Banner shot him at a gathering of Democratic Party supporters.

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    Name: Jose Ibarura, a.k.a. Joe Hayden
    DOB: January 13, 1837
    DOD: June 6, 1899
    Party: Democratic
    Ideology: Left-Wing Social Democrat
    Office: President of the United States of America
    Hometown: New York City, NY
    Residence: Boston, MA
    Issues: Interventionism, Full Citizenship, Protectionism, Local Power, Social & Economic Reform, Anti-Imperialism

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    ((Did somebody actually vote for Jarvis? I didn't see any votes for the Republican primary. It seems like nobody likes the Republicans any more; the Federalists have stolen most of our thunder.))

    Congratulations, Mr. Jarvis. I would humbly offer my services as your Vice President, if it has not been promised to another.
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    ((I would've voted but I forgot to, and this AAR has had less prevalence for me as of late.))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    ((I would've voted but I forgot to, and this AAR has had less prevalence for me as of late.))
    Have you been cheating on us?

    Is it Shadow of the Andes? It is! Isn't it!?

    In all seriousness, I'm sad to hear you didn't have the time to vote. As for Jarvis' vote. My sheet says he got one, so I'll assume he got one.

    PS. I've updated Harrison's bio in full now. No really relevant info, except the reason why none of you can be Richest Man on Earth in 1930.
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    I would be more than pleased to have you as my Vice Presidential nominee, Mr. Garrett! Hopefully, America will see that a return to peace and prosperity is just what this nation needs!
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    FYI, If you are a presidential candidate, I would really appreciate if your main concern right now was getting a VP and Platform to me, before checking what's going on in Shadow of the Andes.
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    ((Mine's going to be largely the same, just minor edits and a revamp of the Cuba segment))
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    ((Happy November, Gents, ... been reading this for some time now and was wondering if you would not be opposed to another member joining...))

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishopCornelius View Post
    ((Happy November, Gents, ... been reading this for some time now and was wondering if you would not be opposed to another member joining...))
    Not at all.
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    Name: J.P. Dumont
    DOB: March 15, 1850
    Party: Independent
    Ideology: Libertarian - Moderate
    Office: Senator from Illinois
    Hometown: New Orleans, Louisiana
    Residence: Chicago, IL
    Issues: Laissez-Faire, Full Citizenship, Protectionism, Local Power, Social Liberalism, Economic Conservatism, Imperialism

    Bio:
    One of the wealthiest families in the United States, the Dumont family earned its fortunes more due to, than in spite of, the Civil War, by producing and selling Gunpowder to first the Confederates, based out of New Orleans, before defecting to the US and moving their operations up to Chicago. J.P., grandson of the family Capitalist-patriarch, after graduating from the University of Chicago (endowed by the Dumont family), is the first member to enter politics. His status as an independant candidate is made possible by his vast family fortune to finiance his campaign rather than turning to one of the Parties for support. Reinforcing this Independance, during his tenure in the Senate he has voted on both sides of the aisle, depending on the issue...
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    So, Mr. Dumont, you're closer to a moderate, right? Because most Democrats aren't free marketers, sadly. I support the only major difference between us would be our views on foreign policy, though we all support, more or less, our new acquisitions having immediate plebiscites to determine their future.

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    Why, Yes... I believe so, ... and it is a pity that there are not more Americans who realize the value of the Free Market, upon which the wealth of this great nation was built...

    ((Thanks for the welcome! Looking forward to it! Also please enjoy my updated bio, ... sorry couldn't get the portrait to work right, if anyone knows something...))

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