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    About Brittany... A Brittany AAR

    Game: Eu3, DW, 5.0 (My beta patch backup isn't running properly)
    Country: Brittany
    Rules, Normal difficulty, (I'm not that good!) No cheating, No reloading, and province spread is set to 75 years (I think, can't remember) EDIT: Forgot to mention, I took out "Formal Request"
    Short term objective: Survive. Properly hate the French and English.
    Mid term goal: colonize the Americas, if only a bit, and continue to survive.
    Long term goal: Take all of France! (Yeah right...)

    The Bretons! They hate the French, well, now they do! Here is the starting position:






    To most peoples eyes they have little to no starting position, cornered by Huge imperium calamo (Huge Blob Empire), its a bit of an awkward "So... When do we invade and conquer you?" deal. Then the English, ever English want a strategic position to eat up France, and what better spot?

    But Brittany has a good position to colonize and escape the turmoil of Europe and join the turmoil of the rest of the world! Brittany is also a great trading nation, and has cores in Mainz and Anjou, but who would dare attack Provence before France does?

    I WOULD!

    Our first moves? To announce our position towards the world. Ahem, Gigau and all other French people, please realize that I will display hatred towards your nation, as the voice of Brittany, not me, same for you English people, and the Dutch, Flemish, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Irish, Italians, and the Swedish, you know who you are. The Danish though, are alright with me

    Our first gameplay move? Move our slider!




    We move towards Innovative to push forward in technology. Dangerous ideas spread through the nation, so we hit the heralds with clubs to shut them up. People don't seem to like our approach.



    Our faithful ally calls us to arms against Brabant, sure, why not? This occurs at about the same time that we DoW Naples and Provence. Bohemia, being the HRE, answers the call to arms from Provence. The sieges begin, with only 3 thousand men to order in all, this may take a while...



    Unfortunately Naples decides to launch an attack my way. 5 thousand men... So once the sieges are done, we travel to Armor to attack the first army, led by some Valois dude.



    The first battle in Morbihan is a resounding FAILURE that leaves our army crippled, and theirs even more crippled. Despite outnumbering the enemy, their calvary was enough to repel us.



    After regrouping, we march into Morbihan to crush the enemy, which we do. Making a tactical retreat to Armor to regroup and avoid a large Scum army to the south, we wait for our "recruiters" to club some men into the army to reinforce.



    Marching to Vendee to free that land, we hit with a resounding SUCCESS, mainly due to our king leading the forces. The remaining prisoners are thrown into the ocean, because we don't have a prison to put them in! In the meantime we decline alliances from Hesse, Savoy, Avignon, and England. Why? Because we hate them. An alliance with them means war with France, and we hate them too! So why go to war for someone we hate?

    During this time we also go to Paris to rub a paper in the kings courts face. We are the first in Europe to pass the Naval recruiting act. In exchange innovative goes up 1, so does quantity. Ships will be built faster, by %10 and stability will be a bit harder to recover. Why do we pass such an act? To beat the French and British, DUH! And to throw those prisoners somewhere useful.



    But the French were jealous, so they poisoned our king. Regency time! Some good news, Aragon offers us an alliance. We accept. Aragon is like Burgundy, strategically placed next to France to offer an annoyance, but not be all that useful! Either way, Aragon is a strong naval nation, and a bit of a guarantee for protection.

    Some more invasions are thrown our way, none larger than the first, and we throw them into the ocean, why? Because we hate them!



    There is an issue though... Bohemia is wrecking Burgundy, which you can see in a few pictures here. That has to stop, because we can't acquire the territory we want to unless we get them out of the war. So we bribe them with 50 ducats. We have only 1 ducat in the treasury, but it is December, so we will make it without the loan. All is well in Cleverfield (Name that reference!)



    That boosts our warscore with Naples up to 23%, which is not enough to even get Anjou normally, but Sicily and Aragon are in Naples proper (Ironically, Aragon did this on their own time, not because of me) and cede both provinces to me. Boo-Yah! Take that Frenchies!

    In honor of this, we send out all of our daughters (8 in all, busy daddy!) to marry with England, France, Burgundy, Aragon, Milan, Castille, Portugal, and Scotland. This raises our relations with all of these countries (we may hate them but we don't want them attacking us) and it gets rid of a few bickering women in the court.



    Our glorious nation now! More to gloat about. This does unfortunately give France a core on me.



    We take the time to rearrange the techs a bit, favoring Naval, Trade, and Government.

    Sorry about the pictures, I know theres a lot, but I had a lot to talk about. Next update perhaps tonight. I'm not sure.
    Last edited by jjja494; 03-04-2011 at 05:05.
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    Subscribed, I've been looking forward to a Brittany AAR, after my last playthrough of Brittany...ended with the De blob making a cameo appearance and turned me blue.

    Good luck!!

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    Thanks, I'll be needing it.
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    The seizing of Anjou and Maine was lucky, but will it draw the french?
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    A really bold opening move - but now you're doomed unless you can bring France down right away they will just overrun you. On the other hand if you release Normandy, you should be fairly safe for a moment.

    It's a shame Burgundy is fighting Bohemia, HRE troops are best spent on France at this point. I also don't get why you went Innovative not Free Trade and why you aren't bee-lining Gov 4 and Land 5 afterwards so you then can make an uninterrupted run for Trade 7 and Azores in the 1440s...

    Either way, it's still an interesting start. My only good Brittany games were when I could out-income France via trade - and I never had balls to take their core so early.

    Are you planning to release Provance as a vassal on those cores when main Provance gets inevitable annexed by France? If so, you will have a short window to do that since HRE will ask France to surrender Provance to him (it's 5.0 after all) and it will rebel from them soon after when HRE goes down in flames due to infamy.
    Last edited by delra; 03-04-2011 at 04:56.
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    You bring up many good points, and its hard to combat them so I'll just try to explain myself a bit, and my mistakes

    First of all, I forgot to mention, I have disabled Formal Request, the results of that are ungodly and it has no good result. So The HRE will never request the provence provence and France will keep it. Secondly, I'm not going to release Provence, not unless I have to. I will if the situation worsens.

    Tech wise I made a conservative move that leads to the long term bonuses. I have no reason to be very religious and have every intention in leading in Naval/Trade techs by the end. Blitzing for QFTNW won't be all that useful either considering that with Brittany I have the position to take Greenland, the Azores, OR the Bahamas. And considering my first national idea will be something money/trade related so as to get my income/treasury high enough to afford colonies, I'll have to wait for Gov 9, or change my idea. It still won't be a good idea to take as many colonies as I can as fast as I can because I'll just be broke immediately. Either way I will colonize, but I will be a bit slower perhaps, and be a bit more selective. Expect me not to find the best colonies, I'm bad with colonizing, as I only play as Portugal or England if I want to really colonize, and I rarely play those countries.
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    Nice opening moves...
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    The point with Azores isn't as much to increase own range as to reduce Portugal's and Castille's - it was one my mistakes as Brittany to neglect this, it really delays other nations in the race for the new world.

    I don't see Brittany being able to pay for colonization unless you can mint a huge chunk of income, my last game I had full Free Trade, Minter and National Bank to get my share of the Americas - but then again, I played them like I was very poor Netherlands.
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    Perhaps. Its hard to crusade unless the Mamlukes/Ottomans collapse. It will be interesting, and I'll do it if the opportunity opens up.
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    Okay, I'll let you play own way. :-) Just remember two things. One is that Innovative colonizers are very tricky to play - you mitigate this by either counter-reforming very hard or going reformed for trade bonus. Also remember that spamming colonies quickly makes you become an Empire and that gives you CBs on all kinds of CoT-holding countries across the globe. That'd be it, waiting for the next episode now. :-)
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    Glad to know your watching. I'm signing off for the night as well. I'm making the next episode tonight, should be up by 8 pm, ehh, East coast american time, no idea what time it would be for you, one sec, just let me check google... Oh, so about 2 in the morning for you. Lol, I'll try to post earlier.
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    Subscribed. I've always wanted to see(or play) a game where Brittany rises to become a European power. Look out for the BBB though, you'll have to cripple it sooner rather than later if you're going to survive longer than the next 50 years.

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    Nice going!
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    Decisions...

    Ok, so my opening moves were a bit... bold yes, but prevail we will! When some man somewhere in history said "lets go", they won and thats what will happen here! So, onwards to our first picture ehh?



    Lets start by sending our marvelous traders to Paris. Later we trade in Antwerpen. For now it may be better to stay at 2 CoTs so that if we have a shortage of traders it will be easier to recover. We're at 5 in both centers.



    We have started to expand our army, for obvious reasons and because its our mission



    After succeeding in that, we're just going to sit still and do nothing. And "accumulate money"



    Jean VI de Dreux must have been the baby of a french mother because no TRUE Breton would have skills like that!



    Orleans sends an insult my way, typical Frenchmen, but we decide to ease the tension.



    As you can see England is held up in 2 wars, one against Burgundy, and one with France. Doesn't look good but... France and Burgundy combined can't beat the English navy.



    And thats what I would be dealing with if I was at war with them...



    Ooh! What decision should I make? Abandon my ally and let the spanish engulf them, or join and pray I'm not destroyed?





    Ehh don't post yet, I've already joined them, but I'm not going to do anything, I'd be useless anyway.



    And we will peace out easily.



    This is the result of the war. Aragon... did not win. But hey! They can still have Gonder!



    I made a mistake here, going towards free subjects had little benefit, but I didn't do much about this obviously.



    AAH!

    What decision? Join Burgundy and fight France, Aragon (my ally) or leave them to die? If I leave them to die, I will undoubtedly have no defense against France, and Aragon, well, they are useless now, as the wars with Castille will continue to eat up Aragon.

    You guys decide. Also, what should be my first NI? A trading NI, or something else perhaps? So, what do you guys think?
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    I'd betray them - you can guarantee Burgundy if you want to help in their defensive wars and ally Castille or England. It's a darn strange war too, Pope attacking someone he doesn't even have border with. Are they excommed or sth?
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    Neither. I think it had something to do with France being allied with the Papal states. Thanks for the input.
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    I would abandon your allies and sit this one out. When the dust settles, try your hardest to get into an alliance with Castille - that might be enough to keep the French at bay, or at least give them enough of a headache to make a war with them somewhat more manageable.

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    Leave Burgundy to it's sorrowful fate. Then ally with castille and england.
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    I think you should help Burgundy. France is weakened now from its wars with England and Burgundy is still strong. Best attack France now before they destroy Burgundy and become even more powerful.

    Also, build more soldiers!

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    Crush the French
    Then the Burgandians
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