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This is with the latest patch. Notice how everything lines up except the battleship model number. The reason it showed up in Darkrenown's screenshot is because the scenario he loaded up used a battleship IV, not a battleship V which is the Littorio/Vittorio Veneto, but the localization file is set to display that name for battleship IV's. I'll go copy this post and make a bug report.

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any chance for a RN update? if necessary up to 1939 or so.
 
any chance for a RN update? if necessary up to 1939 or so.

Sorry for the lack of updates. This post and my AAR have suffered from work-related stuff and some improvements to the HPP starting techs. I should be able to update both this post and my AAR within the next day or so.
 
Sorry for the lack of updates. This post and my AAR have suffered from work-related stuff and some improvements to the HPP starting techs. I should be able to update both this post and my AAR within the next day or so.

no problem. I'm just looking to start a UK campaign and since many websites are unreliable, I thought I'd come to the greatest collection of WWII experts ever assembled;
 
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Just a reminder, but commissioned ships means they were combat-ready, while launched means the ships were either still under construction or undergoing sea trials. In-game, that translates to commissioned being ships in the OOB and launched being ships in the build queue.

In 1936, the RN was the largest navy in the world and was responsible for holding together the vast British Empire. However, the RN was old and was quickly being outclassed by Japan and the US. Japan's navy in particular was considered the greatest threat to the RN, mostly because Japan's battleships and carriers were ahead of their western counterparts in terms of firepower, speed, and reliability, a direct result of Japanese ingenuity that was later copied by the other navies (see Japanese entry). To add to the RN's problems, due to the various naval treaties limiting the number and size of capital ships as well as the global depression, the RN was unable to modernize and had to rely on ships built during and shortly after WW1. The most important of which, when concerning the slow pace of RN modernization, was the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty, which forbid construction of battleships for 10 years and limited all signatories to hard limits. The RN was hurt the most by the treaty, as it exceeded the capital ship limits right from the start. All of that changed as a result of the German Deutschland-class Heavy Cruisers launched in the early '30s.

The German Panzerschiffe prompted the French, who hadn't yet reached the treaty limitations on battleships, to begin construction of the Dunkerque-class Fast Battleship, which in turn prompted the Italians to begin construction of their Vittorio Veneto-class Battleships, which in turn prompted the Anglo-German Naval Agreement, ultimately cascading into a new global arms race involving the naval powers of the US, UK, USSR, Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands, Japan, and Spain. However, because the UK maintained strict treaty adherence even while Japan, its chief rival, withdrew from the treaty in '36, the RN's ships were outdated, outgunned, and ultimately outclassed by Japan's ships, and as a result the RN suffered horribly in the Asian theater.

The 1936 RN OOB, commissioned ships only:
3 Courageous-class Carriers
1 Hermes-class Escort Carrier
1 Eagle-class Escort Carrier
1 Argus-class Escort Carrier
2 Nelson-class Battleships
5 Revenge-class Battleships (8 ordered prior to WW1, 2 converted to Renown-class BCs, 1 never finished)
5 Queen Elizabeth-class Super Dreadnoughts (6 ordered prior to WW1, 1 never finished)
1 Admiral-class Battlecruiser (4 ordered prior to WW1, only the HMS Hood completed)
2 Renown-class Battlecruisers (converted Revenge-class BBs)
2 York-class Heavy cruisers (5 planned, 2 completed)
2 Norfolk-class Heavy Cruisers (4 planned, 2 completed)
4 London-class Heavy Cruisers
7 Kent-class Heavy Cruisers
4 Hawkins-class Heavy Cruisers (5 completed, 1 lost in the interwar period)
2 Arethusa-class Light Cruisers (6 ordered, 4 finished)
5 Leander-class Light Cruisers (8 ordered, all finished)
2 Emerald-class Light Cruisers (3 ordered, 2 finished)
8 Danae-class Light Cruisers (12 ordered, 8 finished)
13 C-class Light Cruisers (28 completed, 15 scrapped by '36)
18 E & F-class Destroyers
14 C & D-class Destroyers
20 A & B-class Destroyers
27 V & W-class Destroyers (67 ordered, 27 completed)
8 Scott-class Destroyers (10 ordered, 8 completed)
3 River-class Submarines
12 S-class Submarines (62 completed in total, most of the 50 not in service were lost during storms in the interwar period)
4 Rainbow-class Submarines (6 ordered, 4 completed)
6 Parthian-class Submarines
12 Odin-class Submarines
10 R-class Submarines (12 ordered, 10 completed)
26 H-class Submarines (42 completed, 8 lost pre-war, 6 sold to Chile, 2 transferred to Canada)

The 1936 RN OOB, launched ships only:
2 Arethusa-class Light Cruisers (2 more were planned but ultimately canceled)
18 G & H-class Destroyers

Additional commissioned ships by the start of the war
1 Ark Royal-class Aircraft Carrier (launched in '37, commissioned in '38, designed to provide protection against enemy aircraft)
10 Town-class Light Cruisers
9 I-class Destroyers
16 Tribal-class Destroyers
8 J-class Destroyers (9 ordered, 1 canceled)
1 K-class Destroyer
3 U-class Submarines
15 T-class Submarines (71 ordered, 18 cancelled)

Additional launched ships by the start of the war (aka they were "in the build queue")
3 Illustrious-class Aircraft Carriers (launched in '39)
2 King George V-class Battleships
2 Lion-class Battleships* (4 planned, all cancelled; these ships were never launched, but construction did start on them hence why they're included)
1 Pretoria Castle-class Escort Carrier (repurposed armed merchant ship, purchased by the RN in October '39)
4 Crown Colony-class Light Cruisers
5 Dido-class Light Cruisers
4 I-class Destroyers (these were meant to be sold to Turkey, but 2 were delivered to Turkey and the other 2 acquired by the RN)
7 K-class Destroyers

Ships completed by the end of the war
2 Implacable-class Aircraft Carriers (launched in '42, completed in '44)
3 King George V-class Battleships
1 Unicorn-class Light Carrier (launched in '41, commissioned in '43)
4 Colossus-class Light Carriers (16 planned, 7 re-purposed, 1 cancelled)
2 Colossus-class Maintenance Carriers (repurposed Colossus CVLs, these ships were meant to act as mobile aircraft repair-yards, as RN carriers were too small to fulfill that role)
1 Activity-class Escort Carrier (launched & commissioned in '42)
3 Nairana-class Escort Carriers (launched in '42, 2 commissioned in '42, last commissioned in '43)
1 Audacity-class Escort Carrier (originally the German merchant ship Hannover, captured in '40 and repurposed as a CVE in '41)
3 Minotaur-class Light Cruisers (8 planned, 5 cancelled; the first was transferred to Canada immediately after commissioning. All ships launched in '43 and completed in '44)
7 Crown Colony-class Light Cruisers (1 was transferred to the New Zealand navy)
5 Battle-class Destroyers (5 done by the end of the war, 10 launched; 26 total finished; 2 were given to Australia)
8 C-class Destroyers
8 Z-class Destroyers
8 W-class Destroyers
8 V-class Destroyers
8 U-class Destroyers
8 T-class Destroyers
8 S-class Destroyers
8 R-class Destroyers
8 Q-class Destroyers
8 P-class Destroyers
8 O-class Destroyers
8 M-class Destroyers
8 L-class Destroyers
83 Hunt-class Destroyer Escorts (these won't appear on the map in-game as they considered to be convoy escorts)
22 V-class Submarines (42 planned, 20 cancelled)
4 Oruç Reis-class Submarines (originally for the Turkish navy, requisitioned by the RN in '40)
46 U-class Submarines
38 T-class Submarines

Ships still under construction at the end of the war
4 Audacious-class Aircraft Carriers (4 planned, 2 completed in the '50s, other 2 cancelled)
4 Colossus-class Light Carriers
5 Majestic-class Light Carriers (renamed and updgraded Colossus CVLs)
1 Vanguard-class Battleship (launched in '44, commissioned in '46)
10 Battle-class Destroyers
24 C-class Destroyers
46 Amphion-class Submarines (only 16 completed)

In case you were wondering, the RN liked to order destroyers in batches of 8, so those numbers at the end of the 4th list aren't typos :)
 
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Some adjustments:

Revenge-class battleships (8 planned 5 completed 2 converted to Renown class Battlecruisers during construction 1 not finished)
Queen Elizabeth-class battleships (6 planned 5 completed 1 not started, further 3 proposed for Canada but never started)
Surrey-class Heavy Cruisers (2 planned never finished)
York-class Heavy Cruisers (5 planned 2 completed)
 
wasn't the Ark Royal completed in 1938?

edit: sorry, should let you finish before commenting. shutting up now. :)
 
@TZoli: Thanks for the updates. I only fixed my entries for the ship classes that were actually finished. I know a lot of ships were planned to be built by Japan, the US, and the UK, but treaty restrictions shelved those designs. For the sake of keeping things simple, I'm only putting up ship classes that were either completed by '36 or were planned to be built after the war started.

@misterbean: There you go, everything up to the start of the war ;)
 
Kingdom of Norway

Despite the fact that Norway had one of the largest merchant marines in the world, its military ship building capacity was negligible. In 1938, when tensions rose all across Europe, Norway began a small program to expand its coastal defense capabilities by building its own destroyers. I can only find concrete info on 8 of these ships, so I can't say if more were planned.

Ships commissioned in 1936
2 Norge-class Coastal Battleships (these are just big CAs and not true battleships; they were built in Britain in 1901)
3 Draug-class Destroyers
3 A-class Submarines (German-built subs)
6 B-class Submarines (American subs built in Norway under license)

Ships commissioned by the time of the German invasion
4 Sleipner-class Destroyers

Ships laid down or launched by the time of the German invasion
2 Sleipner-class Destroyers
2 Alesund-class Destroyers (neither finished, both sabotaged by the dock workers)


Kingdom of Denmark

While Denmark was in no way a major naval power, it was fully capable of building its own submarines, torpedo boats, and coastal battleships. After the Anglo-German agreement became public, Denmark began to expand its submarine and torpedo boat forces. I normally don't include torpedo boats, but these ships made up the bulk of the Danish navy, so I included them in this entry. Also, Germany's occupation of Denmark was nowhere near as harsh as its occupations elsewhere, and in 1942 Denmark was allowed to construct 2 more torpedo boats for its own use.

Ships commissioned in 1936
2 Herluf Trolle-class Coastal Battleships (Olfert Fischer sunk as a target ship in October '36)
1 Niels Juel-class Coastal Battleship
2 Daphne-class Submarines
3 Rota-class Submarines
3 Ægir-class Submarines
3 Glenten-class Torpedo Boats
3 Dragen-class Torpedo Boats
10 Springeren-class Torpedo Boats
1 Hvalrossen-class Torpedo Boat
3 Sorrideren-class Torpedo Boats

Ships commissioned by the time of the German invasion
4 Havmanden-class Submarines

Ships commissioned after the German invasion
2 Huitfeldt-class Torpedo Boats


Some additional info:

in 1936 and 1938 two small cruiser designs were emerged but none finalized. They were designed by the Naval Dockyard in Copenhagen.
PG 225 (1936): 84.5m, 5x1 120mm Guns, 2x2 450mm Torpedoes 1 aircraft no armour
PG 237 (1938): 96m, 2x2 150mm Guns, 1x2 450mm Torpedoes 25mm Deck armour. Both carried 40mm AA guns as well
 
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great! with all the new stuff, I thought it would take you longer to get back here. good to know it is still alive.
 
Some addition:
Norway:
2 Björgvin class coastal battleships, at completion (1914) the RN purchased them and classified them as Monitors and renamed them as HMS Glatton and Gorgon. Glatton blown up in 1918, Gorgon was sold in 1928.

Denmark:
in 1936 and 1938 two small cruiser designs were emerged but none finalized. They were designed by the Naval Dockyard in Copenhagen.
PG 225 (1936): 84.5m, 5x1 120mm Guns, 2x2 450mm Torpedoes 1 aircraft no armour
PG 237 (1938): 96m, 2x2 150mm Guns, 1x2 450mm Torpedoes 25mm Deck armour. Both carried 40mm AA guns as well
 
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Thanks for the awesome work. Many people outside the UK refer to it as 'England' and express bemusement at people refering to it using the full name, but I'm glad to see you are not one of those!

Back on topic: Common Weapons of WW2 features torpedo boats as a unit, but I've never seen a game which featured them properly. My guess is that they are so numerous that even dealing with them in flotillas (4 to a flotilla? 8? 12?) would be too much - is that right? Will HPP include them?
 
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Thanks for the awesome work. Many people outside the UK refer to it as 'England' and express bemusement at people refering to it using the full name, but I'm glad to see you are not one of those!

Back on topic: Common Weapons of WW2 features torpedo boats as a unit, but I've never seen a game which featured them properly. My guess is that they are so numerous that even dealing with them in flotillas (4 to a flotilla? 8? 12?) would be too much - is that right? Will HPP include them?

No HPP will not include them but we got a spare unit type, the Super Heavy battleship which we did not know what unit type it should represent. SHBB already in the BB's as they are regular BB's but with bigger guns and armour which you can represent by giving larger models of these components, and we already use the SHT (Super Heavy Tanks) as IST's - Infantry Support Tanks.
 
Back on topic: Common Weapons of WW2 features torpedo boats as a unit, but I've never seen a game which featured them properly. My guess is that they are so numerous that even dealing with them in flotillas (4 to a flotilla? 8? 12?) would be too much - is that right? Will HPP include them?

No, the HPP won't include torpedo boats, mainly because they're not very effective, there were lots of them everywhere and would require a lot of OOB rework, the AI wouldn't use them correctly, and they'd spam up the sunk ships statistic page. Even the ICE mod, which introduced them in the first place (CWoWW2 was made by the same person responsible for ICE), is taking them out, according to this post: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?534175-I.C.E.-units-redundancy&p=12358030&viewfull=1#post12358030

Some addition:
Norway:
2 Björgvin class coastal battleships, at completion (1914) the RN purchased them and classified them as Monitors and renamed them as HMS Glatton and Gorgon. Glatton blown up in 1918, Gorgon was sold in 1928.

Denmark:
in 1936 and 1938 two small cruiser designs were emerged but none finalized. They were designed by the Naval Dockyard in Copenhagen.
PG 225 (1936): 84.5m, 5x1 120mm Guns, 2x2 450mm Torpedoes 1 aircraft no armour
PG 237 (1938): 96m, 2x2 150mm Guns, 1x2 450mm Torpedoes 25mm Deck armour. Both carried 40mm AA guns as well

I didn't include the other two Norwegian ships because they didn't exist in 1936. Norway and Denmark actually had quite a few more ships in the late 20's/early 30's that were scrapped before the game's start date.

I didn't know about the Danish cruisers, will need to look them up.
 
Kingdom of Sweden

Like Denmark, Sweden wasn't a major naval power, but was still fully capable of building its own coastal battleships, cruisers, destroyers, and submarines. After the Anglo-German Naval Agreement was signed, Sweden began to increase its defensive capabilities by building new destroyers and submarines. Prior to 1935, Sweden's last major naval armament program was during the years leading up to WW1, which saw the development of the 8 coastal battleships in order to counter the Russian and German navies. As a reminder, coastal battleships are basically very slow heavy cruisers with heavy armor and larger than normal guns for their size.

Ships commissioned in 1936
3 Sverige-class Coastal Battleships (4 planned, 1 cancelled)
1 Oscar II-class Coastal Battleship
4 Äran-class Coastal Battleships
1 Fylgia-class Heavy Cruiser (built in 1907, modernized in 1939)
1 Gotland-class Seaplane Cruiser (a light cruiser that carried 12 seaplanes)
1 Clas Fleming-class Light Cruiser
2 Klas Horn-class Destroyers
2 Ehrensköld-class Destroyers
2 Wrangal-class Destroyers
6 Ragnar & Hugin-class Destroyers
3 Draken-class Submarines
2 Bävern-class Submarines
1 Hajen-class Submarine

Ships launched in 1936
3 Delfinen-class Submarines

Additional ships commissioned by the end of the war
4 Visby-class Destroyers
6 Göteborg-class Destroyers
4 Mode-class Destroyers
2 Romulus-class Destroyers (purchased from Italy in 1940)
2 Psilander-class Destroyers (purchased from Italy in 1940)
3 Neptun-class Submarines
9 U1-class Submarines
9 Sjölejonet-class Submarines

Ships launched before 1945, but commissioned after the war ended
2 Tre Kronor-class Light Cruisers


Some info on ships that were designed but construction never started:

Before the war the Swedish Navy considered to modernize her fleet with newer built warships and thus designs were born but before anyone could be ordered the war make these ships never realized.

1934/36: Coastal battleship design probably would be called Viking, 4 ships planned and construction would be started in 1939 but suspended as the war broke out.
Data: 7-8000tons displacement 2x2 254mm Guns 2x3 120mm Guns 4x2 40mm AA and armour of 50mm Deck 254mm Belt.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/pfmatthews/Might%20Have%20Beens/SwedishCoastDefenceShipProject01.jpg

Cruiser Design from 1936: 8000tons, 3x2 210mm Guns, 4x2 120mm Guns, 4x2 40mm AA, 2x2 533mm Torpedoes, 1 aircraft, armour unknown
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m543/SouterJohnny/Cruiser1.png
Based on this design a Heavy cruiser for Chile with 9000tons, 3x2 200mm Guns 4x 40mm AA and 2x3 533mm Torpedoes with 127mm Belt armour was proposed too.

There was a proposal from the famous Ansaldo, again a coastal battleship in 1941: 17000tons, 3x2 280mm Guns, 4x2 120mm Guns, 5x2 57mm AA, 2x2 40mm AA, 6x1 20mm AA, 120mm Deck, 200mm Belt Armour. The navy deemed it too big and heavy and started to center around a lighter Navy, of light cruisers from which the Tre Kronor were born.

Armoured Destroyer / Torpedo Light Crusier design from 1944: 4800tons 3x2 152mm Guns, 6x2 40mm AA, 5x2 25mm AA, 2x3 533mm Torpedoes
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5638/cl45.jpg

Coastal warship design from 1945: 13900tons, 2x3 210mm Guns, 2x2 120mm Guns, 12x1 57mm AA, 10x2 25mm AA, 120mm Deck 300mm Belt Armour
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/323/bb45n.jpg

In parallel with the above Coastal battleship design a Monitor were born too: 10200tons 1x3 210mm Guns, 8x2 57mm AA, they would be to replace the mobile coastal artilleries of the army.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1104/bm45.jpg
 
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Republic of China

Until the 1st Sino-Japanese war, China had the largest navy in Asia. The war was disastrous for China, which saw all of its battleships and the majority of its fleet destroyed by Japanese cruisers. In the early 30's, China began rearm its navy and overhaul the ships that survived the 1st Sino-Japanese War and the Warlord Era of the Chinese Civil War. The first step was ordering the Ning Hai cruiser from Japan, which was finished on September 1, 1932. The Ning Hai's sister ship, the Ping Hai, was built in Shanghai under Japanese supervision, and was launched on Sept. 28, 1935 and commissioned on June 18, 1936. Aside from those two vessels, the newest Chinese ships were the two American-built Chao Ho-class cruisers, commissioned in 1911. The rest of the navy was built in the late 1890's.

Due to the tensions between China and Japan, the RoC began a naval rearmament plan that was vastly different from other nations. Aside from the two Ning Hai cruisers, the focus of the rearmament was to modernize the existing fleet, especially the ships' AA guns. The reason for focusing on the existing ships was that Japan was unwilling to build or sell more to China, and the Europeans refused to build or sell ships to the RoC for two reasons. The first was that France, the UK, the US, and the Netherlands didn't want to antagonize Japan and prompt an attack on their colonies. The second reason was that all of the European naval powers, majors and minors, were busy rearming themselves due to tensions in Europe and couldn't spare ships for China.

The Chinese fleet when the 2nd Sino-Japanese war broke out, excluding small craft, was:

*2 Ning Hai-class cruisers
*2 Chao Ho-class cruisers (3 were ordered, but the revolution in 1912 forced the Fei Hung to be canceled; it was sold to Greece instead and renamed the Elli)
*3 Hai Yung-class cruisers
*1 Hai Tien-class protected cruiser (the Hai Chi was the only surviving ship of the class)
*1 Tung Chi-class cruiser
*3 Chang Feng-class Destroyers

All ships were either sunk in port by Japanese bombers or sunk in the Yangtze river to act as a blockade. Both Ning Hai-class cruisers were raised and served in the IJN. Note that vanilla's fleet is inaccurate. It has 1 too many destroyers units, is missing the Ping Hai in the starting build queue, and is missing the Hai Yung, Hai Chou, Hai Chi, and Tung Chi cruisers.

The reason I included China in this thread despite having a fleet that was almost entirely purchased or built abroad is because it built the Ping Hai domestically, which IMO qualifies it as a nation with a naval industry, although a very small one.

For sources, I used this site and this one.

China actually order 5 type IIb submarines and 8 torpedo boats and one each of subs and torpedo boat tenders from Germany before the war. They got seized when Japan joined Axis.