Yes, they share the same policies apart from religious, military and the minor fact the BNU hate socialism and want a king. As hard it is to believe, I'm actually serious, they're the same apart from that.
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See? BNU cares for the workers of Britain. In fact, EVERYONE in Britain. These radical Socialists won't stop until the working class are the tyrants of the nation!
People of Britain unite! Regardless of class! Our enemies wanted to let us destroy ourselves.
Socialism is not state capitalism, nor is it the 8-hour day. The BNU is a movement led by old aristocratic officers. Having some other bastard aristocrat (or possibly the same one?) ruling Britain as king is neither socialism nor beneficial to the working class.
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Speaking of tyrants, why should we have some "king" as the head of state?
Bah. I, as a capitalist in this republic, see no difference between the state meddling in my affairs with respect to starting industry or infrastructure projects, and their meddling in my affairs with respect to how long the working day is. Socialism, to me, is all of these things.
The BNU is led by a bunch of old duffers, but peopled and strengthened by the working man. You will find that the majority of their votes come not from the wealthy, but from the poor.
I, as a conservative, am merely pointing out that Labour and the BNU seem very similar to me.
Get yer votes out! Make sure that your party is well represented!
Just like your capitalist industry. Neither benefits the worker; and we're tired of it.
Vote for Independent Liberals. The only party I trust with protecting our national freedoms.
But, young sir, most of the working class is employed in industry. Would you like it all to be destroyed so that you could go back to working in the aristocrats fields? I think not.
What you want is more of the share of the profits (if you're liberal)...or control of the industry entirely (if you're labour). But why should I give you control of my company?
I financed it with my own money. I selected the managers, charted the business strategy, provided the tools, the buildings, the starting materials. Is all of this work nothing? Do I not work sixteen to twenty hour days to keep us afloat against those damnably competitive Americans, who utilize slave labour?
Do not dare slander me with the lie that I do no work for the company! This company is my life! I have sacrificed my family, my health, and all my dreams of ease into building it.
Hey, Hey, Hey!
The competitive ones (industry-wise) are in the North! They don't use slaves!
(Anyway, It's 1860, Slavery will end in flames and blood any day now).
We've financed you with our toil, our blood, our hopeless lives and our forced submission for decades, even centuries in some cases. We put in hundreds of hours of work for every minute of yours. We've helped you rebel against the old masters of the monarchy to achieve democracy. However, after our republic was established, we were left disenfranchised and had no choice but to go back to our lives in the dictatorship of the industries, where men no-one have elected rule us for the majority of our waking hours. Now, we'd like to have some democracy in the economy, in our everyday work, as well. We'd like to share the fruits of our labour. This nation has seen the strength of revolution before, and if nobody listens to us, and grant us the justice we demand, it'll see it again.
I think you are talking to the aristocrats, not the capitalists. They are down the street.
I have not kept you, nor your ancestors, toiling on my fields...no, I hired you and other like you only recently (within the last century).
Come, let us join together and build a Britain rich enough to care for ALL of us. Do not think that the world is a zero-sum game! I am your friend, not your enemy. Your compatriot, not your oppressor.
The Capitalist keeps the workers toiling in their factory, hour upon hour, in as brutal conditions as they can get away with, and paying out as little as possible. They keep the worker enslaved in these conditions through the omnipresent threat of unemployment. The Capitalist is just as much of a tyrant as the Aristocrat. If they really were the friends of the worker, why do they not support safety regulations, minimum wage, a reasonable length for the working day, and many other such social reforms that benefit the people?
We live in trying times my friend, we moderates are few and far in between but we must remain steadfast against the angry night.
Because those reforms must be paid for. Does the Labour Party insist its own members pay for your brothers social reforms? No, their position is that others should do it for them. That the working man should get something beyond their hired wage. At least the liberal party (RIP) was willing to consider the clerk and capitalist in judicial balance. But Labour, they are for the working man, to the destruction of all other members of society.
Consider the damage you will do, and moderate it, I pray. Not all people richer than yourself are evil manipulators, forcing you into wage slavery like the Yankee tycoons across the sea. I am willing to make reforms, be they slow. Do not, I pray, force the pace too quickly, lest you kill the very industry that provides you with bread!
Clear the labour electorate are intent on forcing upon us a dictatorship of the Proletariat to the cost of everyone else.
Yet Labour couldn't even enforce its own reforms to what it promised.
I propose a reactionary block spanning all parties to oppose what the red beast would drag us into!
Will there be no innovation? No profit creation?
Should the Labour scoundrels win this election on false promises and lies I call for a general national strike!
Yet Labour couldn't even enforce its own reforms to what it promised.
I propose a reactionary block spanning all parties to oppose what the red beast would drag us into!
Will there be no innovation? No profit creation?
Should the Labour scoundrels win this election on false promises and lies I call for a general national strike!
Are the communards going to become available at some point in the future? Would be nice if they could destroy labour and whatnot.
A coalition of the IPP and the BNU, let alone the liberals, good luck with that...
A coalition of the IPP and the BNU, let alone the liberals, good luck with that...
Agreed. The Liberals should stand united, but the traitor Russell has divided us, and the one man who could unite us is not leader.
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