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The difference between our proud republic and the old, decadent empire of the Habsburgs is that the people have fought for and gained the right to vote in our nation, and thus do not have to rise up in arms. Instead, as long as the reactionary right respects the results of the election, we have voted for a government that seeks to peacefully reform the republic.

Yet, there are now 5 million angry people ready to take up arms against this republic, and the left wing does not possess the strength or the will to deal with them, whereas the right wing does. So this will be a major problem for freedom in our nation.

Something wicked this way comes...
 
Yet, there are now 5 million angry people ready to take up arms against this republic, and the left wing does not possess the strength or the will to deal with them, whereas the right wing does. So this will be a major problem for freedom in our nation.

Something wicked this way comes...

With the promise of lowered taxes on the poor and instituting the demanded reforms from the leftist government, and with the threat of execution because of political beliefs removed with the defeat of the NCP in the elections, the RFB will surely decide to disarm, since the reason for those 5 million people to arm will be gone.
 
With the promise of lowered taxes on the poor and instituting the demanded reforms from the leftist government, and with the threat of execution because of political beliefs removed with the defeat of the NCP in the elections, the RFB will surely decide to disarm, since the reason for those 5 million people to arm will be gone.

For now. The problem is that it won't last. People are never satisfied with what they have. The workers today are far better off then the workers in 1840. They have more of everything but they are angrier because they demand even more of everything than they did back then. They have the vote, they have the 8-hour day, they have health care, pensions and regulations that protect them and yet they still want more. They will always want more and when there are no more reforms we can give them there will be nothing we can do to calm their ravenous demands. And then they will turn upon and consume each others. The faster we give in to them the sooner we will reach that point.
Reforms need to be handed out at a careful pace only when it is necessary to diffuse the tensions in society, not to be thrown away all at once. They are an important resource we need to manage properly. At the current point it would probably be sufficient to restore the free press.
 
With the promise of lowered taxes on the poor and instituting the demanded reforms from the leftist government, and with the threat of execution because of political beliefs removed with the defeat of the NCP in the elections, the RFB will surely decide to disarm, since the reason for those 5 million people to arm will be gone.

You mean the unrealistic threat that could never be carried out? And the taxes that will end up either A. being paid by the workers themselves, due to tax incidence, or B. not being paid at all, since a progressive tax is a horrible way to collect taxes?

And yes, surely these people who have been jingoistically ready to stand up and shed blood to create a worker's republic will stand down just because someone who talks big got elected.

EDIT: I personally don't really buy the explanation as to why labour and liberals couldn't form a coalition, but like I said, it's not my thread, and I'm not a Brit so I wouldn't understand their politics quite as well as a Brit would. Heck, we don't even have coalitions over here in the US; 20 republicans and 1 democrat vote on something, "Hallejuah! It's bipartisan!"
 
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God save the Republic...
here lies the remains of our dear republic. Rest in Peace.

If britain becomes a Communist state i'm voting fascists
 
I am not pleased about the Socialists forming a coalition with Labour, even if Labour is running the show (but just barely).

But hey, if things go sour, I can just immigrate somewhere else. No big deal.

... Except for knowing precious Britannia is in flames. ;_;
 
The Election of 1878

The election of 1878 took place in an intense and violent atmosphere. Europe had arisen in violent revolution and Britain looked like it might follow. One side promised a political revolution in Britain and the other a violent repression unlike anything before seen on the British Isles. More so than ever before, Britain's future appeared to be at stake.

ELECTIONSTARTPAD-9.jpg


The result was incredibly close. Whilst in Ireland the two respective parties maintained their votes the Socialists did likewise on the mainland – once again winning 109 seats. However, Robert Napier's German Method was utterly rejected at the polls as the National Conservatives lost 2/3s of their votes and sank to just 64 seats – one seat worse than the pervious worse performance by the Tories in an election. The lost NCP seats seemed to flood towards the Liberals who remained true to the principles of the British Right but had not called for the same level of force as the NCP. At the same time, whilst the Liberals gobbled up moderate Tory voters, they saw an exodus back towards the Labour Party. Under the rejuvinating leadership of Joseph Arch Labour had recovered from the depths they had sunk to under Burt – more than doubling their share of seats.

At the end of the election the Liberals were by far the largest party with over 1/3 of Parliament under their control. But the right wing parties had suffered a narrow defeat. Labour, the Socialists and the Irish Parliamentary Party joined together to form a new government. This alliance of 3 parties of roughly equal size held just 307 seats – a slim majority, but a majority none the less.

As the inexperienced Joseph Arch, a man who had only been a Member of Parliament for a few short years, rose to lead the new left wing coalition in this most tumultuous situation the coalition agreement was hammered out:

In the field of social reforms the Socialists gained a lot. There were to be small improvements in safety standards in factories, penions and state provided healthcare whilst the minimum wage was set to be raised slightly. This programme for social reform was only a slightly dilluted version of the Socialists' own programme (which had merely called for greater increases in safety standards and pensions).

Both Labour and the Socialists had supported the idea of decentralised democracy through participatory councils and these were to be set up across the country. Whilst the powers of these councils would be rather limited at first the plan was to gradually increase their power.

In order to improve the economy and solve unemployment the coalition agreed to an intensive investment programme in industry. Abandoned and disused factories were to be nationalised, provided with funding to begin production again and were then to be turned into worker run industries. Likewise the newly state built factories were to be cooperativised in the same way. It was hoped that this would both help the fight against the obscene level of unemployment in Britain and push her forward on the road to socialism.

One of the harshest blows for the Socialists was their failure to secure Female Suffrage. Simply put there was a substantial part of the IPP and a smaller part of the Labour Party that were rather sternly opposed to the move and with such a slim majority in Parliament the coalition could not afford to ignore these more socially conservative Members.

Parnell, the man who had recently replaced the aging Isaac Butt after 3 decades as IPP leader, won several key concessions for Ireland. Firstly the Irish Dail (first established under Labour) was to be given tax raising powers and a significant increase in legislative power. Ireland was also to benefit from a large scale investment in its industry (Ireland too was suffering from unemployment). In Ireland the system of cooperativisation of industry was not to take place. Instead any nationalised industry was to remain under state control until a buyer could be found. The IPP, whilst largely left wing, contained a substantial centrist and even right wing element that did not want the full brunt of the coalitions socialisation schemes being extended to Ireland. However they were happy to work with the coalition in order to gain concessions for Ireland.

Internally the new government was to call upon militant groups to step down from conflict and support the government's new campaign for reform in the country. There was also a commitment to end the use of the military within the country to supress strikers and protestors and to look to gradually bring an end to the use of armed police – who had become so hated over the past years.

In foreign affairs Britain would recognise the new Socialist Republics in Quebec, Turkey and the SRR. She would stand again any foreign invasions of these states, although the coalition refused to committ to a promise of open warfare in the event of an invasion. The German Imperial regime was to be heavily and openly criticised for the use of the German Method and the thousands of deaths. Finally it was agreed that the new government was to send its fraternal support to Lincoln as the final Confederate Armies fought on in Virginia and the Carolinas and try to rebuild some sort of friendship between Britain and America.

The deals had been agreed to. Now all the new government had to do was to put its ambitious plans into action.
 
Just an idea I'd like to throw in for more diversity, it might be a fun factor for even more close race coalitions. But if you don't like it, fair is fair :)

We see a rise in locals gaining more power, and we see a big Irish influence in the current government. Would it not be an idea to implement, in a small form, Plaid Cymru and the SNP? Now that Ireland becomes more involved, the Welsh and the Scots might decide to get involved more with nationalist tendencies also? Personally I would not put these as player votable, but just get them a few seats of the current 500 that are divided among the players votes, but again; this is not my AAR so if you don't want to use the idea that's ok. :)

That being said, I still love this AAR and can't wait for the surprises in store for the coming term... it'll be violent :D
 
Just an idea I'd like to throw in for more diversity, it might be a fun factor for even more close race coalitions. But if you don't like it, fair is fair :)

We see a rise in locals gaining more power, and we see a big Irish influence in the current government. Would it not be an idea to implement, in a small form, Plaid Cymru and the SNP? Now that Ireland becomes more involved, the Welsh and the Scots might decide to get involved more with nationalist tendencies also? Personally I would not put these as player votable, but just get them a few seats of the current 500 that are divided among the players votes, but again; this is not my AAR so if you don't want to use the idea that's ok. :)

That being said, I still love this AAR and can't wait for the surprises in store for the coming term... it'll be violent :D

Plaid and the SNP were found in 1925 and 1934 in OTL so it doesn't seem particulary likely.
 
Plaid and the SNP were found in 1925 and 1934 in OTL so it doesn't seem particulary likely.

In OTL, the British Empire existed well into the 20th century, so the political ideology of the people was also different. Also, the Communist revolution did not start until 1917, whereas it has started already, so there might be more incentive now with the Welsh and Scots believing that they can in fact become a bigger voice in politics. Also Women Suffrage is already being considered heavily, 40 odd years before it had actually happened so i wouldn't say that it is not likely to happen :)
 
I've thought about Welsh and Scottish nationalists before but couldn't think of a good way to include them. The best thing I thought of was to allow people to vote for 'regionalists' in elections and then divide it between the Welsh and Scots, but with the regionalist vote limited to something like 150 seats (ie basically all of Scotland and Wales). But I'm not sure if its a good idea. Could be a bit tricky.

If I think of a way of doing it I might.
 
Why a Liberal-Labour Coalition Could Not Work

*snip*

The left coalition has a majority of 7, a Lib-Lab coalition would have a majority of 27. This is probably the best thing the Lib-Lab coalition has going for it. Been even still, that remains a very slim majority and 20 additional seats in the majority might not be enough to convince Labour. Considering all the other reason.

Thank you for your explanation Attack and even I'm not entirely conviced, it helped me a lot. But there is one thing i don't really understand. I don't want to turn this into argument - you are the boss here - but could you explain me why you didn't considered Lib Lab Irish coalition? IPP and Unionist are rather centrist compared to the engalnd parties, aren't they?
 
Thank you for your explanation Attack and even I'm not entirely conviced, it helped me a lot. But there is one thing i don't really understand. I don't want to turn this into argument - you are the boss here - but could you explain me why you didn't considered Lib Lab Irish coalition? IPP and Unionist are rather centrist compared to the engalnd parties, aren't they?

"The IPP, whilst largely left wing, contained a substantial centrist and even right wing element that did not want the full brunt of the coalitions socialisation schemes being extended to Ireland."

According to Attack's election update, the IPP is for the most part left-wing. I'd assume vice versa for the Unionists.
 
Time to begin considering migrating to Canada...
 
Thank you for your explanation Attack and even I'm not entirely conviced, it helped me a lot. But there is one thing i don't really understand. I don't want to turn this into argument - you are the boss here - but could you explain me why you didn't considered Lib Lab Irish coalition? IPP and Unionist are rather centrist compared to the engalnd parties, aren't they?
The Left are pro-Ireland while the Right are pro-Unionist.
 
The Election of 1878

The election of 1878 took place in an intense and violent atmosphere. Europe had arisen in violent revolution and Britain looked like it might follow. One side promised a political revolution in Britain and the other a violent repression unlike anything before seen on the British Isles. More so than ever before, Britain's future appeared to be at stake.

ELECTIONSTARTPAD-9.jpg


The result was incredibly close. Whilst in Ireland the two respective parties maintained their votes the Socialists did likewise on the mainland – once again winning 109 seats. However, Robert Napier's German Method was utterly rejected at the polls as the National Conservatives lost 2/3s of their votes and sank to just 64 seats – one seat worse than the pervious worse performance by the Tories in an election. The lost NCP seats seemed to flood towards the Liberals who remained true to the principles of the British Right but had not called for the same level of force as the NCP. At the same time, whilst the Liberals gobbled up moderate Tory voters, they saw an exodus back towards the Labour Party. Under the rejuvinating leadership of Joseph Arch Labour had recovered from the depths they had sunk to under Burt – more than doubling their share of seats.

At the end of the election the Liberals were by far the largest party with over 1/3 of Parliament under their control. But the right wing parties had suffered a narrow defeat. Labour, the Socialists and the Irish Parliamentary Party joined together to form a new government. This alliance of 3 parties of roughly equal size held just 307 seats – a slim majority, but a majority none the less.

As the inexperienced Joseph Arch, a man who had only been a Member of Parliament for a few short years, rose to lead the new left wing coalition in this most tumultuous situation the coalition agreement was hammered out:

In the field of social reforms the Socialists gained a lot. There were to be small improvements in safety standards in factories, penions and state provided healthcare whilst the minimum wage was set to be raised slightly. This programme for social reform was only a slightly dilluted version of the Socialists' own programme (which had merely called for greater increases in safety standards and pensions).

Both Labour and the Socialists had supported the idea of decentralised democracy through participatory councils and these were to be set up across the country. Whilst the powers of these councils would be rather limited at first the plan was to gradually increase their power.

In order to improve the economy and solve unemployment the coalition agreed to an intensive investment programme in industry. Abandoned and disused factories were to be nationalised, provided with funding to begin production again and were then to be turned into worker run industries. Likewise the newly state built factories were to be cooperativised in the same way. It was hoped that this would both help the fight against the obscene level of unemployment in Britain and push her forward on the road to socialism.

One of the harshest blows for the Socialists was their failure to secure Female Suffrage. Simply put there was a substantial part of the IPP and a smaller part of the Labour Party that were rather sternly opposed to the move and with such a slim majority in Parliament the coalition could not afford to ignore these more socially conservative Members.

Parnell, the man who had recently replaced the aging Isaac Butt after 3 decades as IPP leader, won several key concessions for Ireland. Firstly the Irish Dail (first established under Labour) was to be given tax raising powers and a significant increase in legislative power. Ireland was also to benefit from a large scale investment in its industry (Ireland too was suffering from unemployment). In Ireland the system of cooperativisation of industry was not to take place. Instead any nationalised industry was to remain under state control until a buyer could be found. The IPP, whilst largely left wing, contained a substantial centrist and even right wing element that did not want the full brunt of the coalitions socialisation schemes being extended to Ireland. However they were happy to work with the coalition in order to gain concessions for Ireland.

Internally the new government was to call upon militant groups to step down from conflict and support the government's new campaign for reform in the country. There was also a commitment to end the use of the military within the country to supress strikers and protestors and to look to gradually bring an end to the use of armed police – who had become so hated over the past years.

In foreign affairs Britain would recognise the new Socialist Republics in Quebec, Turkey and the SRR. She would stand again any foreign invasions of these states, although the coalition refused to committ to a promise of open warfare in the event of an invasion. The German Imperial regime was to be heavily and openly criticised for the use of the German Method and the thousands of deaths. Finally it was agreed that the new government was to send its fraternal support to Lincoln as the final Confederate Armies fought on in Virginia and the Carolinas and try to rebuild some sort of friendship between Britain and America.

The deals had been agreed to. Now all the new government had to do was to put its ambitious plans into action.

A most excellent outcome of the election. A shame to see that universal suffrage has been delayed, however. Will this be the case in the local councils as well?
 
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