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    As you can see, I do not intend to make Europe and the world go grey. I fancy a strong, industrialized and well organized country in the heart of Europe. Having good relations to some, not trying to be the master of everybody. Create a nation that is large enough for 150 million Germans. :-)
    sounds boring

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    As my empire itself is pitiful and likely doomed (playing a Qing game, switched to Sichuan when the warlord era broke out, proceeded to get surrounded by much larger warlords), here's some pictures of the world I created with it (and my liberal applications of money and other support to encourage strange wars):

    The Coming Storm:

    The world has started to align itself quite dramatically to Communist and Fascist camps (here very eclectically displayed from bits and pieces I cut out from some screenshots).

    Fascists:
    - The USA. A fascist lead democracy (with occasional conservative leadership, so it's a bit of a wildcard) and often the most powerful nation in the world.
    - The North German Federation. Another great power that has old quarrels to resolve with France (which once owned all the way up to the Palatinate) and Russia (which still holds the old territories of Prussia).
    - Austria-Hungary. Another GP lead by fascists, although it is officially a monarchy.
    - Italy. A sometimes-GP monarchy lead by fascists - still holds a bit of a grudge with Austria due to past wars, but is having more trouble with France.
    - Belgium. A great African powerhouse secondary power, thanks to lots of Chinese war support during their really reckless warfare there.
    - The Netherlands.
    - Denmark.
    - Wurrtemburg.
    - China. Formed when fascist Manchuria overthrew the Beiyang government, fascist China is an all consuming force in the north of China. It still needs to go a far way to unify the nation, though.

    Communists:
    - France. The first major communist state and the sphere leader of most of the other communists, France is aggressive and oftentimes the most powerful nation in the world.
    - Russia. This socialist lead democracy has an old enmity with the fascist German nations which will likely drive it towards the rest of the Comintern. It occasionally is the leading nation in the world as well.
    - Japan. A sometimes GP formed from the defeat of Choshu (finally - the Japanese wars took a long time to resolve due to spheres and Korean intervention), Japan is a growing and powerful communist state.
    - Spain. Spain has been in constant turmoil since the Carlist wars (which the Carlists won), so its allegiance as a proletarian dictatorship is not assured.
    - Flanders. I have no idea how this happened, as I was paying attention to wars in Asia at the time.
    - Baden. Ditto.
    - Cuba. This Proletarian Dictatorship is unlikely to be a real threat.
    - Xinjiang. Same, although Xinjiang is a socialist lead democracy (the only democracy among the warlords of China) with close ties to Russia.
    - Anhui. This is the leading communist state in China, although they were unable to conquer me and have several powerful enemies tangling up their forces.
    - Sichuan. Me!
    - Angola. Again, not a real force of communism in the world.

    Unknown:
    - The United Kingdom. While its troubles at home (war with rebellious Ireland) may keep its attention for awhile, the powerful democracy may be the decider of any great war that occurs.
    - Nationalist China. Probably the largest nation in China, the presidential dictatorship of the Kuomintang is attempting to challenge both the communists and fascists in China. It is unlikely to side with either alliance as a result.

    The GP's at the time (although the list changes regularly, with the top four slots changing a lot and the last GP place switching out between Japan, Italy, and liberal democratic Argentina).


    Africa, showing the height of Belgian power. Also, some wars. Yes, China looks ugly at the moment.


    And now something that happened much earlier...

    A whistle stop tour, you say? That might be a problem, considering that the only reason your nation isn't destroyed is because the attackers can't decide on what wargoal to resolve (multiple nations were trying to annex the little German minors - I think Bavaria managed to get their annexation of some small German state approved, but the others had to give up their claims. This might have started the whole cycle of rebellions for everyone with the militancy and other problems of all the occupations and failed wargoals, now that I think about it.).
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    What version of PDM was that? Must have been old, as southern Belgium should have turned into Wallonia when Flanders was lost (unless something is wrong with that decision).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylock View Post
    What version of PDM was that? Must have been old, as southern Belgium should have turned into Wallonia when Flanders was lost (unless something is wrong with that decision).
    It's APD 3.0.5. I'm not sure what happened with the low countries, to be honest. Can the decision only be taken at peacetime? Belgium's had a lot of wars going on since I noticed the split.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloa View Post
    It's APD 3.0.5. I'm not sure what happened with the low countries, to be honest. Can the decision only be taken at peacetime? Belgium's had a lot of wars going on since I noticed the split.
    Yes, it does have to be at peace. Perhaps that's it. Either that or Flanders separated without Brussels (which it looks like), which is a Flanders core-- and thus Belgium would remain in that case as well.

    Either way, an interesting world situation. Surprised to see all the Fascist-led Prussian Constitutionalism countries... I thought that government disallowed that type of party, but upon checking it seems not. Nice to see the Scramble for Africa working correctly (though Belgian Egypt makes me laugh).

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    The thing that seem out of place here is that there are so many country gone over to the later ideologies so early (this is only 1914 after all). There really shouldn't be that many Communist and Fascist states in the world yet, unless there has already been several Great Wars or something, in which the old order was overthrown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylock View Post
    Yes, it does have to be at peace. Perhaps that's it. Either that or Flanders separated without Brussels (which it looks like), which is a Flanders core-- and thus Belgium would remain in that case as well.
    It must be that, as Belgium has remained Belgium now for several more decades. Also, France attempted to seize Wallonia from them at one point, but sadly lost. I guess that would have left them with Brussels (and a giant colonial empire).

    The thing that seem out of place here is that there are so many country gone over to the later ideologies so early (this is only 1914 after all). There really shouldn't be that many Communist and Fascist states in the world yet, unless there has already been several Great Wars or something, in which the old order was overthrown.
    There had been some major struggles over the French/German border (France had gained up to the Palatinate in several wars before being pushed back), the Austrian/German border (although Austria only gained a little in the end), and the Russian/German border. Prussia and later the NGF got entirely occupied multiple times over the last 4 decades, which explains their fascism. France's losses and the destruction of the wars Austria and Russia had with Prussia might explain their extremism. I agree about the rest, though (especially Japan and the U.S. - Japan was communist even before it fully unified and the U.S. has gotten everything it wants, more or less).

    Anyway, now that I've played through more, I actually have something of an empire to show.

    Sichuan:
    Picking up where the last post left off, here's China:

    Not the best place to be in as Sichuan, considering every nation around me is much more powerful than I am (except maybe Qinghai - but Qinghai managed to fend off invasions from both Xinjiang and China). In fact, Nationalist China invades later in the year and overwhelms my defenses. Sichuan is annexed, but I tag switch to the slightly more capable Nationalist China in order to keep watching the world (and actually start building up something in it).

    Nationalist China:
    As I bring order to the Chinese warlords, the great wars of our time erupt in Europe (click for a larger view):

    1918-1920: While the communists in Anhui are crushed by the joint attacks of myself and fascist China (despite the quite powerful support Japan brings to its communist ally), the Communist France battles the fascists in Italy and Germany. Both are defeated and forced to give up most of their empires. Scandinavia also forms, but gets in a war with socialist Russia over their claims in Finland.
    Also, (fascist) Wurrtemburg annexes (communist) Baden. France and her allies decide not to intervene due to the bigger wars they are involved in.
    1921: With all the wars at an end, Europe goes through a chain of revolutions. Jacobins topple the fascist dictatorship in the NGF but the party still manages to stay in power. Worse hit, surprisingly enough, are the victorious communists. France becomes a democracy as well and eventually the communists lose an election to the liberals. The Russian socialists lose in the polls as well, and the fascist party is elected to lead.
    1922: The South German Federation is formed around the annexations of Wurrtemburg and the monarchy in Bavaria. It proceeds to do nothing interesting for the rest of the game. The United Kingdom is overthrown by Jacobins, although the resulting democracy turns quickly to fascism.
    1923: The "Golden Age" of fascism, both in democracies and in fascist dictatorships (the old trend of monarchies supporting fascist parties died away after the defeats of the first world wars). [ignore Iceland - while Iceland was a fascist nation, the picture is from 1918 before it was annexed by the largely socialist Scandinavia]. The trend is lead by 5 out of the eight great powers, including the three most powerful nations in the world. The previously victorious ideologies of communism and socialism have dwindled down to only a few minor nations.
    The only major defector from fascism is the Kingdom of Italy, which moderates its stance to reactionary support of the monarch. Also, this year marks the first year a bourgeois dictatorship is in power - the only bourgeois dictatorship in history.


    1926:
    Russia and Austria-Hungary turn to more conservative ideals, breaking the great fascist bloc.
    The proletarian dictatorship of Flanders thaws to a more liberal democracy.
    Italy turns to fascism once again after another terrible war with Austria-Hungary.
    Scandinavia begins a war against Denmark for Copenhagen.
    1927: Fascists gain traction in Nationalist China, worrying the conservative presidential dictatorship. Also, "2% of our population are conservative"???


    1928: Scandinavia captures the Copenhagen. The ever resourceful Danes move their capital to Greenland.
    Also, Austria-Hungary (now the democratic Danubian Confederation) and Russia turn once again to fascism.

    From then on, things settled down a bit and I focused on fighting (fascist) China for ultimate supremacy. After that, I encouraged a Jacobin revolt to transform into a democracy (hoping for my once strong fascist or anarcho-liberal contingents to gain power so as to unbalance world politics again, but the conservative populace kept the Kuomintang Chiang) and began construction on the Panama Canal. In 1934 I decided to resign and see how the world ended up:

    Fascists are a huge influence in the world still, with a full page (and exactly a full page) of governments with fascist leading parties (admittedly, most are fairly insignificant) and the occasional addition of Russia and/or the U.S. (which sway between Conservative and Fascist).
    Communists, on the other hand, have lost almost all of their power. Even including the socialist democracy of Scandinavia, there are only a handful of communist/socialist states in existance, and most are insignificant. Japan is a declining great power surrounded by larger enemies (although Russia and I have almost no Pacific navies to speak of) and with few remaining allies. The rest cling to their old ties with the now liberal France.
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    Nice summary. Austria did really well. Especially in Italy.
    What's that green country in Germany? Rheinland?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gloa View Post
    Communists, on the other hand, have lost almost all of their power. Even including the socialist democracy of Scandinavia, there are only a handful of communist/socialist states in existance, and most are insignificant.
    That one sounds familiar.

  9. #149
    My Belgium game. My best moment was right in the end, when Italy finally lost all the stolen land from Austria, which despite being always stomped on (just like Turkey) still appeared to be a pretty decent secondary power.

    They would hold onto their land if they didn't selfishly and foolishly attack me and my brigade of allies.

    Interestings:
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    *Cyrcassia (tripoli-something nation)
    *Independant Cyprus for long time
    *freakin' WALES




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    Is that Oranje in the middle of South Africa?
    A rebel without a cause.

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    Yup. Transvaal was there for centuries aswell. Me not granting them alliance was probably why they got absorbed by England-South Africa.

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    Very interesting game Gloa!


    Medopu, how did the UK break up and what happened to the British Empire?

    Is that Taiping in China? What are they like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian View Post
    Very interesting game Gloa!


    Medopu, how did the UK break up and what happened to the British Empire?

    Is that Taiping in China? What are they like?
    China was really nice and interesting to watch. At first, really early, Republic of China was formed. And then, Mongolia (and at the same time Kamchatka in russia) became independant. Then, for some reason, China got into dozen of smaller states.

    At first, it looked like Nationalist China will Unite the nation. They then attacked Manchuria (I hope that's correct because it's definitely not Taiping), and then Russia and Germany intervened on the side of Manchuria and absolutely butchered the nationalist china into submission. A few years past by with -100% warscore, when Russians made a deal that Manchuria unites the nation, turkey getting a friendly government (non-fascist) and turkey to dismantle the empire, which for some reason didn't hapen at all. (except for Balkans that were taken from them in earlier wars.

    A few things I've noticed. USA couldn't ever take Hawaii from lone and weak Netherlands (6 unsuccessful wars for Hawaii were waged). In the early years, Netherlands showed massive potential. They waged wars on and on with uncivs in SE asian islands and Arabia. In late years, they collapsed. And each year, another Unciv liberated from them. (Me taking Zeeland and constant wars with USA might be the cause I'm not sure).

    AI also likes to start wars with "Liberate people", which are interesting but I doubt they're that historical to happen. At least not en-masse. Many of them were unsuccesfull though.


    As for British empire, or should I say ENGLAND, I don't really know why they couldn't fight the Irish and Scottish away. Even wales was independent for a year. Yes they have lost a few non-important wars in Americas, but the problem I think is, that AI isn't able to move it's armies out of enemy territory after the war is over. So that's why they couldn't come to the main-island to help with the rebellion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian View Post
    The thing that seem out of place here is that there are so many country gone over to the later ideologies so early (this is only 1914 after all). There really shouldn't be that many Communist and Fascist states in the world yet, unless there has already been several Great Wars or something, in which the old order was overthrown.
    Perhaps the problem has to do with the party loyalty ratings. A successful election in vanilla bumps up loyalty by 0.3... but in APD it's only 0.05. One reason people wouldn't vote in the newly-appeared socialists and fascists, after all, is that they've been voting for other parties for so long. Maybe the party loyalty increase in APD needs to be bumped up.

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    I only intervene only in the Colombian(My SoI) and Venezuela(They attack Guyana then I took a piece of their land.), and Guyana(Which was release after I beat Frenchie in a Great War)area

    The rest was by the A.I doing.







    ME and Central Asia.

    The nations with Stans, and Armenian and his northern friends were release when I fought hard Great War over Russia.
    Armenia, recently took Syria, while Portuguese control the rest, they used to own the rest IE Lebanon.

    Persia use to own the Africa's horn by being in a Great War against Germany? I think.
    Anyway, I kept them in check and took some of colonial land in Africa and some west of India.

    I broke the British back in my first Great War(and the probably the only time) over them, all of Indian state were released, some were under British sphere, but I took care of that.

    Egypt is my Soi , as for Turkey? Ugh, just no, too much history for that one....







    Europa!

    Balkan is just Custer fuck( I didn't know how it was first started), was even more, but Romanian took some state and annex Bulgaria.

    As for the Nations east of Poland was release during my Great War with Russia.

    While Poland and the central Europe nation were release during the Russian attack and her allies when Russia decide to add Great War to their goal.

    Spain took some polish land due to that.

    Italy and Austria had been fighting during the last few decade to regain lost ground, however favor fall to the Austrian at the moment.

    France is fracture due to the Great War I fought with them, Occtan now own half of France, While I took an assload of African land.

    Part of Ireland were release during my Great War against Britain, they soon got all of Isle, due to rebel, Britain was serious ridden with Rebel after the Great War.






    NA

    I dismantle the USA in my latest Great War, so.....long took two decade.
    The result?
    Cali,CSA,Alabama,Virginia(I think),Minnesota, New England, and Metis Confed were released.

    Mexico, have Most of Texas, but they never participate in my war.....

    As for Canada...Once a force of might and a GP in mid 20's was reduce to....that by America IE Great War.

    I don't have a picture of ingame Africa.





    Here some stat.




    Here the World view.




    And here one from 1982

    In what way could I, The Man, keep the advocates down today?

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    Here my Pru>NGF>GER game in 1916, finished due to the lack of real great powers (france, BG and Russia split up due to me, USA and China (was #3 at some point) due to civil wars)

    fought 2 great wars, always with my buddy USA, one against france in 1904 and one against UK and Russia in 1913.

    UK was commie before I forced democracy upon them in the 2nd great war, most of chinas breakaway states are facist.

    The netherlands, Poland, The united Baltic Provinces, The Netherlands, Belgium, Flandern and Sardinia Piedmont are my vassels, sphere is huge.

    Europe

    The World

    After the chinese breakup, massive emmigration from its provinces flooded the world, leading to many places in america and europe to get a chinese majority (note greenland and scandinavia)

    Nationality in northern Europe


    fun game, all n'all
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    World Dom. or my computer implode due to how long I continue this cam. SA in 2019
    What's your govt? Were you forced to pass all reforms?

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    Everyone else seems to have more interesting games than mine, all of mine all seem to be relatively normal, except for the FSA and CSA which always makes me chuckle.

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