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    Quote Originally Posted by Zechariah Zevi View Post
    I said the Republic rather than republics in general; I'm agreeing with you My concern is over the points of policy that he would support, as in my understanding he was very prepared to work with various xenophobic groups and supporters until his alignment behind the Republic.
    Ok, I dunno... But in the timeline Hitler and the nazies are dead, so no aggressive xenophobism, only "regular" xenophobism. And Mussolini failed his fast and easy coup, we could guess that his group scattered throught Italy and fled to neighbouring countries including France, spreading the Roman Fascism ideals strenghening the Republican ideas of the Croix de Feu and giving integralism, the social fascism mix, a real ideologic base.
    I don't think "integralism" would be involved in that scenario, though, seeing as French integralists would still be facing the problem of the Papal interdict.
    If La Roche gets to power with the integralist or not, he wont have this kind of problem as he was a fervent catholic. IRL he founded a new social christian conservatist party in 1940. And well the pope has bigger fishes to fry ie the italian civil war with leftists in both camp + world anarcho socialist rebellion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zechariah Zevi View Post
    tuore: Those points make sense, though I'm still not sure who exactly the "Autocrats" are?
    Paternal Autocrats of vanilla. You know, people who favour a strong leadership without extremely oppressive laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuore View Post
    Paternal Autocrats of vanilla. You know, people who favour a strong leadership without extremely oppressive laws.
    Paternal Autocracy is a governmental system in the taxonomy of political science but it doesn't constitute a viable faction per se -- the classification "paternal autocrat" demands either the existence of a person who is already or a prospective autocrat. My question is about who these people specifically are; do you just mean conservative/völkisch parties? But I can't think of any parties other than the Nazis and various peripheral monarchists who specifically supported an "autocracy" (in so far as the Führerprinzip was autocratic).

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    But in the timeline Hitler and the nazies are dead, so no aggressive xenophobism, only "regular" xenophobism.
    That's clear enough. In real life, however, La Roche aligned himself to some extent with specifically anti-xenophobic forces, which I don't picture him doing here. This, I think, you agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by JRHINDO
    If La Roche gets to power with the integralist or not, he wont have this kind of problem as he was a fervent catholic. IRL he founded a new social christian conservatist party in 1940. And well the pope has bigger fishes to fry ie the italian civil war with leftists in both camp + world anarcho socialist rebellion...
    Well, it's established that he wasn't an integralist. My point was that integralism doesn't figure in the scenario you've set up, as neither was he an integralist nor would the integralists be strong enough to play any significant role. Even with a specific papal interdict lacking, I doubt that the movement could have stayed influential for long with its primary ideologue undermining principal aspects of Catholicism. I don't question that it doesn't affect him; I'm just pointing out that integralism doesn't come into the picture.

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    I designed autocrats as conservatists. I didn't come up with a good name, so I used autocrat. I guess I can just use conservatist.
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    As you asked for progress in the other thread I'll give you some of mine:

    I have started to work on minister and military leaders (and to some extent tech teams) for the different Chinese warlords. This includes lurking around on google-translated Japanese wikipages, wikimedia commons, different historical forums and compilation sites (rulers.org and worldstatesmen.org) and the vanilla HoI files to find the leaders and thereafter decide which warlord they should be ruled by. It is going quite slow but forward hopefully every warlord will have working and to some extent realistic/plausible cabinets.

    ps, I'm not an official member of the modteam, just a researcher.

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    I've been compiling some leaders Tuore for China. The file is not finished yet and some leaders will be moved around but around 300 ministers and military leaders have been assigned to a warlord. I will complete it in the coming days/weeks and then move over to generate the leaders/ministers, give them suiting traits and so on. Sounds good?

    Here is the file: http://www.sendspace.com/file/amp9af

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    Thank you. I haven't had much time to mod lately (I picked a poor time to start this - a lot of school work during the spring), but I'll see what I can do.
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    No rush for me. I'll just keep finding them leaders and add them, think about an event or two and we'll see where we end up.

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    Looks awesome! Plinio Salgado in Brazil!

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    i really don't like this mod
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    Quote Originally Posted by asamy View Post
    i really don't like this mod
    What´s your problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asamy View Post
    i really don't like this mod
    you have yet to play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner Circle View Post
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    Can I lead Russia to bright future of Anarcho-Capitalism in this mod? Would be really cool and quite ironic

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    Any update on progress?

    I really love Alt-History mods. Having a looot of fun with Kaiserreich these days and your mod really sounds awesome from the setting. So hurry and give us some cool updates on your progress

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    What about polish government? In RoTWiki Poland is in major powers. With civil war and Russia I think, National Democrats should create first government of Poland in the first few years of independence. In this timeline Piłdsudzki shouldn't be important person in the country, so there is no Sanatia. Also, Poland is an aggressive country (invasion on Lithuania) - which indicates the nationalists in the government-, but with these borders nationalists in Poland woulnd't survive too long. Integralists? Nationalist party and polonization on Kresy? Or maybe conservatives and idea of recreated polish commonwealth?

    PS - I'm still learning English, I apologise in advance for my mistakes.

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    Can I lead Russia to bright future of Anarcho-Capitalism in this mod? Would be really cool and quite ironic
    Doubtful. Mahnovschina might be a better target for that. Plus Anarchism remains a left-wing ideology in the time-line.
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    So what is up with India?
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    I think India is still a British crown jewel, until shit hits the fan and all the colonies start to revolt.
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