Quick questions / Quick answers -- EU3

**jdrou** · 30-10-2011 17:33

Originally Posted by jarekb84

I want to take over provinces that have war colleges, grain depots, glorious monuments, and manufactories.

Also, I've seen people post here that had several of the only one per nation buildings, is conquering provinces that already have them the only way? I have latest DW.

I don't think conquering works for buildings with extra restrictions like war colleges; if it isn't in your capital it will disappear.

**GoguRomania** · 30-10-2011 17:36

Originally Posted by Uriel Wang

Could anybody show me how to do it?

Yes.

**gela1212** · 30-10-2011 18:12

Originally Posted by Uriel Wang

Hi there,

I am currently playing Sweden and have formed a great Scandinavia. Right now I feel the incremental cost of manufactory very painful. According to EU3 wiki, the coefficient of this incremental cost is 20%. I'd like to change it to 5%. Could anybody show me how to do it?

Btw, is this modification able to apply to current saved game?

Thank you.

It would apply to the saved game, but I'm not entirely sure if it's even possible.

Defines.txt shows only one definition for 'manufactory', and that definition is for the extra money you get from one.

Buildings.txt has nothing for incremental cost, and the comments section says "subject to other modifiers"

Staticmodifiers.txt has nothing on it either.

It might be hardcoded, but it if it isn't, it's some pretty out-of-place and/or well hidden stuff. I'd suggest trying for further help in the user mod forum.

**blah_1123** · 30-10-2011 18:20

Hi, I'm trying to form russia and it says I need to own and have a core on novogorod I also have a mission to vassalise novogorod, if they are my vassal, will that count as owning the provinve? as I know it does in victoria 2 for unifications.

**gela1212** · 30-10-2011 18:26

Originally Posted by blah_1123

Hi, I'm trying to form russia and it says I need to own and have a core on novogorod I also have a mission to vassalise novogorod, if they are my vassal, will that count as owning the provinve? as I know it does in victoria 2 for unifications.

No.

You can diplo-annex vassals after ten years with a good diplomatic skill, or vassalize them to fulfill the mission and then break the vassalization to annex them.

**A_Redditor** · 30-10-2011 18:34

Originally Posted by Uriel Wang

Hi there,

I am currently playing Sweden and have formed a great Scandinavia. Right now I feel the incremental cost of manufactory very painful. According to EU3 wiki, the coefficient of this incremental cost is 20%. I'd like to change it to 5%. Could anybody show me how to do it?

Btw, is this modification able to apply to current saved game?

Thank you.

idk about the incremental cost issue, but costs for manus are depended on your Manpower.
So build several lvl 6 land buildings and you should be fine.

**Simberto** · 30-10-2011 18:50

Originally Posted by jdrou

I don't think conquering works for buildings with extra restrictions like war colleges; if it isn't in your capital it will disappear.

I noticed that you get the benefits of war colleges if you occupy the province they are in. It does not make a lot of sense, and seems to end if you annex them, but if you are at war an occupy it you can have multiples, since you don't actually own them.

**GoguRomania** · 30-10-2011 19:41

That is indeed funny

) It is a UNIQUE building to own but you can use as many as you want

)

**ANO1453** · 30-10-2011 19:59

Originally Posted by GoguRomania

That is indeed funny

) It is a UNIQUE building to own but you can use as many as you want

)

I tried uniting the HRE with cheats a couple times (to try things out) and it is very possible to have more than one "unique" building.

You can see if the province has manufactories through the population growth (which has a tooltip that describes the modifiers) or because of the small building in the province.

**ANO1453** · 30-10-2011 20:00

Originally Posted by A_Redditor

idk about the incremental cost issue, but costs for manus are depended on your Manpower.
So build several lvl 6 land buildings and you should be fine.

I thought they were based on number of core provinces...

**GoguRomania** · 30-10-2011 22:10

If a steppe nomad is the vassal of other country, it will attack from 5 to 5 years?
It will attack with the senior??

**Duskey** · 30-10-2011 23:07

Originally Posted by GoguRomania

If a steppe nomad is the vassal of other country, it will attack from 5 to 5 years?
It will attack with the senior??

Yes. I reported it as a bug, but according to artfox it won't be fixed.

Being horde and enemy horde vassals

**GoguRomania** · 30-10-2011 23:17

Originally Posted by Duskey

Yes. I reported it as a bug, but according to artfox it won't be fixed.

Being horde and enemy horde vassals

So we are ready for a Russian - Ming war for eliberation of Oirat Horde ... just teriffic ...

**Uriel Wang** · 31-10-2011 02:21

Originally Posted by A_Redditor

idk about the incremental cost issue, but costs for manus are depended on your Manpower.
So build several lvl 6 land buildings and you should be fine.

Thank you very much!

Yes, after I build several conscription centers, the cost for build an additional manufactory drops a little bit.

This is not mentioned in the EU3 wiki. http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Ma...#Manufactories

Can anyone clarify the relationship between Manpower, Existing No. of Manufactories and the unit cost of manufactory?

**Uriel Wang** · 31-10-2011 02:24

Originally Posted by gela1212

It would apply to the saved game, but I'm not entirely sure if it's even possible.

Defines.txt shows only one definition for 'manufactory', and that definition is for the extra money you get from one.

Buildings.txt has nothing for incremental cost, and the comments section says "subject to other modifiers"

Staticmodifiers.txt has nothing on it either.

It might be hardcoded, but it if it isn't, it's some pretty out-of-place and/or well hidden stuff. I'd suggest trying for further help in the user mod forum.

I also looked everywhere and cannot find the parameter. I will post this issue to mod forum.

Thank you.

**jdrou** · 31-10-2011 06:00

Originally Posted by Simberto

I noticed that you get the benefits of war colleges if you occupy the province they are in. It does not make a lot of sense, and seems to end if you annex them, but if you are at war an occupy it you can have multiples, since you don't actually own them.

Yes, the way this works is a problem in my view. While some province modifiers should indeed apply to an occupying country not all of them should.

**Sandmann** · 31-10-2011 15:46

How do you join the HRE as an outsider again with like my catholic Byzantium? Would I inherit HRE states with cores as Byz? Do you have to move your capital into a HRE province and then how?

**Simberto** · 31-10-2011 15:51

The easiest way would be to become emperor (just vassalize some electors), and then just use the "join HRE" provincial decision to make a chain of HRE provinces to your capitol. Once your Capitol is HRE, your country is HRE, too. But i have no idea if moving it to a HRE province works.

**vasziljevics** · 31-10-2011 16:25

Originally Posted by Simberto

The easiest way would be to become emperor (just vassalize some electors), and then just use the "join HRE" provincial decision to make a chain of HRE provinces to your capitol. Once your Capitol is HRE, your country is HRE, too. But i have no idea if moving it to a HRE province works.

I belive you cannot move your capitol into or out of the HRE

**deadsoviet** · 31-10-2011 16:46

I've just started a game of Novgorod and was wondering two thing:
1. Can you declare war on a horde you owe tribute too without the stability hits ?
2. how do you gain control of wasteland areas or are they totally in-accessible?
Thanks for any answers.

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