Glory for Ulm: A Flagland AAR

Boris ze Spider

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Nice job with dem patinates.

 

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Sather said:

Why don't you vassalise them through the peace treaty? Wouldn't that be a lesser hit of infamy?

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He wants them to be republics so he won't have any opposition to become Emperor when he decides to change governments. At least, that's what I think he's doing.

 

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History_Buff said:

I am liking this AAR and your strategy. You have a lot of vassals but, with the possible exception of the Byzantines, none of them are powerful enough to oppose you directly. The only way they would even stand a chance is if you faced a few of them at once. Also, I have a question. Why did you liberate the Byzantines instead of taking the land for yourself seeing as it had no penalties?

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Two reasons: A. fewer provinces means less stability costs and I do intend to 'abuse' this advantage a lot, such as having military access to launch a surprise attack. I will be back on +3 in 6 months.

B. I like it this way. That may not be your best reasoning, but I find this way more amusing.

Sather said:

Why don't you vassalise them through the peace treaty? Wouldn't that be a lesser hit of infamy?

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There are reasons for this, but also reasons against.

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- You change their government to yours (when releasing them).
- You remove them as an elector (though, this may also be counted as an against).

Against:
- Bigger infamy hit.
- You remove them as an elector (as I said above).

So sometimes it can pay off, sometimes not.

In addition, some countries are too big to accept an offer of vassallisation in a peace treaty, but will accept annexation (weird, I guess).

And when you need to get the nation 'freed' out of another country, you really have no choice. A freed nation is just an ally, not a vassal, but demanding the provinces for the new nation and then releasing them will grant you a vassal.

I know it is a bigger peace cost and infamy hit, but it's worth it. Sometimes.

Also remember the infamy reduction when you release a vassal.

 

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Svip said:

In addition, some countries are too big to accept an offer of vassallisation in a peace treaty, but will accept annexation (weird, I guess).

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Maybe this is due to having a CB that reduces war score costs for annexation?

 

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knul said:

Maybe this is due to having a CB that reduces war score costs for annexation?

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Yes! But few reduces the cost for vassallisation. I can't remember, but I think Excommunication and Subjugation (obviously) does.

 

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Not to complain or anything, but rather to know if I might stay up a bit later today:
Any idea when the next update will be up?

 

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Ah thank you, forgot about the government change.

 

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I see you remembered the traditional German joke.

 

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Then Ulm should do his very best.

 

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It be time for war!

Not pictured: Montenegro.

 

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Timmie0307

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hahahah Awesome!!!

 

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Svip said:

Not pictured: Montenegro.

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...Poor montenegro... He will get depressed soon if you don't give him a portrait...

 

Arakhor

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• Jan 15, 2011

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Personally, I wouldn't be half as cocky when part of my ancestral land was under French occupation.

 

sprites

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less infamy , but less republics too!
and that only costed two more points for Saxony

 

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I love the way Burgundy is ridiculously tall. Reminds me of a picture I made in the Raaage! Thread.

 

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Burgundy is going to be a republic soon.

 

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Those damn unibrows.

Also I love you and want to make babies with you, keep up the fantastic work with that AAR.

 

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Yeah, gotta love the huge guy Burgundy.

 

Julius.R

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Swarm him, swarm I say. Keep it up

 

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bring that fool down. conquer, and you will not have to pay so much for the wine!