After some serious butt-kicking, finally Ottomans are being reduced to a more manageable size:
I got jumped by Turks some 10 years before that screen shot, which wasnt so bad in itself, if they handnt dragged in half of the Muslim world with them. Fighting 3 front (Ottomans, Golden Horde + 16k invasions from N.Africa) war was bloody hard, Turks alone invaded with 100k troops, we both just got lvl 18 troops, the rest of the gang was using outdated stuff, but still i lost over 60k troops, about 3 stacks got wiped, i dont think ive ever suffered that kind of loss before and lived to tell about it XD





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If they come after you, and youre weaker, youre in a world of pain, much like Golden Horde was early on for my Moscovy, they actually beat me twice, taking about 40% of my provinces. 

















