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    I'm guessing Holy War casus bellis up until 1650, after which one can easily choose an appropriate NI to get the Imperialism CB.

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    Yeah, Japan don't have the Holy War CB but Malaca/Malaya is Islamist, so I have this CB against all the region. You should find a fast way to get Imperialism with Japan or find a way to get PU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataclism View Post
    May I ask how did you get casus bellis? I'm having some trouble with that as Japan.
    As Japan it's even easier -- Deus Vult! Only Japan has Shinto as religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by safferli View Post
    As Japan it's even easier -- Deus Vult! Only Japan has Shinto as religion
    That only gives a Casus Belli against heretics. Not Heathens. Believe me, I've tried. Which means I can only get CB against Korea and China while still no CB against the Muslims in Indonesia where I'm trying to expand to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataclism View Post
    That only gives a Casus Belli against heretics. Not Heathens. Believe me, I've tried. Which means I can only get CB against Korea and China while still no CB against the Muslims in Indonesia where I'm trying to expand to.
    Ah, well, I had plenty of fun expanding into Korea/China in my last China game, so I didn't really mind I couldn't get easy CBs in India. I got lots via various means, pain I had to pay full Infamy though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by safferli View Post
    Ah, well, I had plenty of fun expanding into Korea/China in my last China game, so I didn't really mind I couldn't get easy CBs in India. I got lots via various means, pain I had to pay full Infamy though.
    Unam Sactam gives a CB on heretics.
    Divine Supremacy gives a CB on heathens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert View Post
    Divine Supremacy gives a CB on heathens.
    Really? Which one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert View Post
    Unam Sactam gives a CB on heretics.
    Divine Supremacy gives a CB on heathens.
    I didn't know that! Does it last until after 1650?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert View Post
    Unam Sactam gives a CB on heretics.
    Divine Supremacy gives a CB on heathens.
    Divine Supremacy only gives you an event that helps missionary chances, and increase the number of missionaries you get.

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    Divine Supremacy does give you Holy War on everyone (regardless of borders), but only if you're Christian or Muslim. Unam Sactum does the same as well as giving Cleansing of Heresy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sihulm View Post
    Divine Supremacy does give you Holy War on everyone (regardless of borders), but only if you're Christian or Muslim. Unam Sactum does the same as well as giving Cleansing of Heresy.
    Isn't the Holy War CB a game mechanic that is already in effect from 1399-1650 and not linked to any NI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathon View Post
    Isn't the Holy War CB a game mechanic that is already in effect from 1399-1650 and not linked to any NI.
    No. Holy Wars can only happen between 1399-1650 but you still need a casius belli of some sort to kill them, be it crusades, NI or Defender of the Faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCheeseMaster View Post
    No. Holy Wars can only happen between 1399-1650 but you still need a casius belli of some sort to kill them, be it crusades, NI or Defender of the Faith.
    or a border with the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathon View Post
    Isn't the Holy War CB a game mechanic that is already in effect from 1399-1650 and not linked to any NI.
    Only for nations that border you. The NI gives you the CB on all heathens.
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    For those who don't feel like looking at the code (in the spoiler tag), only Christian and Muslim groups get the Holy War CB, and receive it on all heathens if either: their government is Empire, they are Defender of the Faith, they have Unam Sanctam or Divine Supremacy, and the year is before 1650. All Christian and Muslim nations receive the CB against heathen neighbors.

    Unam Sanctam grants Purging of Heresy, which is obvious. (c: PoH applies to all heretics, not just neighbors.

    Code:
    # Holy War
    ...
    	prerequisites = {
    
    		
    		OR = {
    			religion_group = christian
    			religion_group = muslim
    		}
    		NOT = { religion_group = THIS }
    		OR = {
    			government = imperial_government
    			defender_of_faith = yes
    			neighbour = THIS
    			AND = {
    				THIS = { is_crusade_target = yes }
    				religion = catholic
    			}
    			idea = deus_vult # Actually "Unam Sanctam"
    			idea = divine_supremacy
    		}
    		NOT = { year = 1650 }
    	}
    With that said, it's likely the dude used Holy War like mad until 1650, by which point he might well have been able to move to Absolute Monarchy and get the Imperialism CB and use it for the next 100 years until being able to take Revolution and Counter-revolution and use the Revolutionary CB for the rest of the game.
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    Oh, just noticed that all countries in the Indonesia region became Hindu at some point. Unam Sanctum should work now!
    I'm also relatively near the tech level needed for Absolute monarchy which gives Imperialism.

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    I have no idea what am I looking at, but the entanglement of Manchu and Song looks trippy as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliasing View Post
    Miscmods?
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