Nice.Originally Posted by ubik
One of the many things to look forward to.
Are they silk-covered and are they sufficiently comfy? (Sufficiently comfy to please the average holy roman noble butt?)They are made of wood with cushions.
Nice.
Are they silk-covered and are they sufficiently comfy? (Sufficiently comfy to please the average holy roman noble butt?)They are made of wood with cushions.
Exactly. This is a general rank and entirely designed like that on purpose.
No. Any Major power that passes the absolute score needed to ascend to Greater Power will do so. A maximum of 7 Greater Powers can exist at a time.
Greater Powers per se have nothing more to them than a Minor Holding (other than they are, indeed, much more powerful). I picked seven probably because it's the number of Great Powers existing in my favourite boardgame (Empires in Arms).I asked for the interface because in the mod there are values for the alignment of the greater powers, like France might be allied with Russia against England and Austria, and then there would be another axis with the remaining 3 powers allied or not. I suppose we can see a ledger with the classification of all countries, and the interface would just help to see the minor allies of a coalition.
It depends on the ammount of redbull available.
I challenge the implication there might be any correlation between aviation inducing concoctions and comfy cushions. That would be silly.
Ok now I really understandI thougth it would be the sum of the top seven that had to exceed a certain amount.
You also mentioned that it will be an important trigger for scripts, can you give an example?
Ok now I really understand
You also mentioned that it will be an important trigger for scripts, can you give an example?
Well, as important as the scripter wants to use it, but given the fact it was used 1273 in the mod, it is certainly VERY important.
Why wasn't Jerusalem in that list?
Hm. I mean, it was diminishing in importance by that period, I suppose.
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Very impressive. I see the interface has improved dramatically since the last time I saw it.
Yeah, it became rather unimportant by the start date of the game. No more zealous crusades.
How will a player perceive other nations' standing? Just the plain status and ranking number, with the more detailed stats uncovered by spy missions?
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You'll see at all times other countries' Power Level. As for particular rankings you'll need to be infiltrated in the particular area and if you are infiltrated in all areas, you'll have de final ranking also.
Some of these factors effect things negatively right?
Like war exhaustion?... and does number of cultures give a bonus or a malus? because presumably ethnic homogeneity would give a (small) bonus.
Yes, some give a malus.
Cultural diversity gives a bonus.
This all looks very nice. Though I am a bit surprised by Karbala beating Jerusalem to the list. While I understand its significance to the Shiite peoples, I don't believe that it is any more holy than Najaf. Jerusalem, on the other hand, bore a religious significance to all Christian, Muslim, and Jewish peoples (though, admittedly, the Christians in particular were unlikely to be so attached to Jerusalem as the Shiites were and are their holy sites.)
Just a quick (and possibly unnecessary) comment: I'm not entirely sure I understand the title of this DD. While I've played MM for years and am thoroughly attached to it (and am keen to buy the game the day it comes out) I can imagine a newcomer might be a little bemused by the title. Ubik, did you perhaps mean "The Intangibility of Diplomacy?" Seems like a bit of an odd title, as neatly ranking all of the nations in order seems to make diplomacy more tangible. But Lord knows, it's really not that big of a deal.
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Well, my english mastery leaves much to be desired... I though that intangible related to Power Rank could be used.
I think Najaf is in the Karbala province in the game (if the province setup didn't change there).
Sorry to disagree, but it seemed perfectly apropos, to me. "Power Rank", or "importance" or "clout", however you wish to put it, is a major intangible influence on diplomacy. Ranking nations thus does make it "tangible", of course, but such a mechanism is needed only because the player, unlike government functionaries IRL, is not constantly immersed in the day-to-day conversations where the perceptions of such "Power Rank" are formed.
If anything, my only worry is that the objective list makes the rank too 'tangible'. What the team is trying to quantify, here, is subjective, I think, and might benefit from being formulated for each nation based on (a) the objective measures as already described, (b) the geographic proximity of the target nation to the nation's population centres and (c) the cultural preferences of the assessing country (e.g. monarcies value military might, merchant republics value trade strength, etc.).
It gets intangible again as you will not know the rank of other countries and the said rank will be used internally for many, many different effects in terms of game mechanics, thus, hidden from the player again.
You'll only see the rank once you finish the scenario.
Will you get no idea of other countries rankings? Some sort of "fuzzy blob" with a size related to rank might be good - just to give a guide whether this guy is a "big player" or a "little fish"?
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