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Looking forward to round 2 - the bit were Poland gets East Prussia and Silesia and the Austrians and Bavarians are freed!

Can you do anything on the diplomatic/espionage front to coup German Italy and reunify on a democratic basis?
 
Looking forward to round 2 - the bit were Poland gets East Prussia and Silesia and the Austrians and Bavarians are freed!

Can you do anything on the diplomatic/espionage front to coup German Italy and reunify on a democratic basis?

With what the Axis have in number of troops available, they'd overrun any 'democratic' coup within days and restore the 'legitimate' government. Also, getting their hands into inter-Axis affairs might backfire in other places.
 
Hi,

the betrayal of Poland will surely make life in post Zurich Europe very interesting. For Germany in particular, they will now have to cope with relentless resistance not only in former russian territories but on the roads to them.

A timed bomb has been set and is ticking...

Not really that much, methinks. The Baltic Sea is cut off with Denmark being a German puppet, so no arms for Polish resistance. They'll have to work with what they have and will eventually run out of material to wage war with. Assuming that the new German government is a lot less harsh on the Poles, they'll still not be able to free themselves, especially not while Germany streches all around them.
The Soviets will also continue to pleague the Wehrmacht, but their efforts will be in vain in the long run. Without any immediate war to turn it's attention to, the new German government can use the Wehrmacht to stop out every pocket of resistence.
 
Good stuff as usual. This is becoming quite an intriguing alternate history. I'm interested to see how you handle getting rid of Petain, Laval et al.
 
Hi,

the betrayal of Poland will surely make life in post Zurich Europe very interesting. For Germany in particular, they will now have to cope with relentless resistance not only in former russian territories but on the roads to them.
Poland had very high level of guerilla activity all the war, on par with Bielorussia and forested part of Ukraine, second only to Yugoslavia.
 
Not really that much, methinks. The Baltic Sea is cut off with Denmark being a German puppet, so no arms for Polish resistance. They'll have to work with what they have and will eventually run out of material to wage war with. Assuming that the new German government is a lot less harsh on the Poles, they'll still not be able to free themselves, especially not while Germany streches all around them.
The Soviets will also continue to pleague the Wehrmacht, but their efforts will be in vain in the long run. Without any immediate war to turn it's attention to, the new German government can use the Wehrmacht to stop out every pocket of resistence.

Hi,

actually I`m not thinking in terms of resistance mainly by partisan warfare. More by sabotage of vital choke points and assasinations of key Germans, scientists not the least.
This will not stop regardless of any humanity/inhumanity degree of the German occupation. Particularly as the Polish GIE is still recognized by the Allies as legitimate. Cooperation with the Russians is quite plausible here notwithstanding any earlier distrust.
It will be very interesting to see how things develop.

Regards, Oldtimer
 
Good stuff as usual. This is becoming quite an intriguing alternate history. I'm interested to see how you handle getting rid of Petain, Laval et al.

Well given that the Free French are already organized into army corps and probably gathering throughout northern France right now, and that de Gaulle is coming home as the "liberator" of France... neither government would want to be the ones to start a civil war, so they will do political maneuverings to collapse the other side's popular support.

De Gaulle's "win" scenario would see him chairing a transitional government, drafting a new constitution, and setting up anti-collaborationist courts. The courts would open their proceedings BEFORE the national assembly convenes, so that the Vichyites are barred from attending. The new constitution would be written largely by the Free French and those wishing to break with the Vichy regime.

The Vichyites on the other hand probably see that popular opinion and the balance of military forces is against them - but they still regard themselves as the "legitimate" government of France, and would absolutely not want the courts to indict them to long prison sentences for doing what (according to their view) they were forced to do. Their "win" scenario would look like this: Britain pulls all forces out of France, a government of national reconciliation is formed (50:50 free french / vichy) and a national assembly will draft a new constitution, BEFORE any legal proceedings are opened against people accused of collaboration. The assembly will take a year or longer until it's done, and when it's done, people will (hopefully) have lost their fiery eagerness for persecution of collaborators. The assembly will legitimize the Vichyites as legitimate caretakers of France in the war years, and if possible pass a general amnesty, to promote national reconciliation. Meanwhile the Vichyites set up their own political party and will defend the political status quo throughout the next 20 years.
 
Great update, I'm really enjoying this alternate history stuff, reminds me a bit of Wiz's House Hohenzollern Rising mega campaign on the Something Awful forums. I rather like it when a talented author starts embellishing on the actual game; although it was forced in this case of course.

On what has happened. Poor Poland... forever their fate to be shafted in the name of the greater good.

Long term I don't hold out much hope for European peace. A still expansionist Germany, despite current problems probably stronger now than when the war started... If this peace lasts as long as that made in 1918 it will have done well, I think. (given the quality of this thread, I rather hope it will break down before 1948 :))
 
Good updates ... Japan won't last long without german front to divert the allies war effort!
Poland would be forgotten once again , but that is the price ...
 
Part 63


A Score Settled

8th – 30th November 1944




1. French POW's arriving at Waterloo station, London, November 1944. Many of those who fought on the side of Vichy were shipped out immediately for their own safety


The Vichy regime, even beset from all sides and now without a protector, was not expected to simply give up. When the 24 hours were up with no acceptable response, France declared war on Vichy, followed by Great Britain within the hour. Troop redeployments had already begun in the days previous, but the speed with which peace had come about had rather caught Britain on the hop. It would take a few more days before the divisions and supplies needed were in place. Nevertheless, fighting between Britons and Frenchmen was now inevitable.

True to their word, on the afternoon of the 8th, Germany liberated Denmark, followed that evening by the restoration of France by Britain. In Italy, German forces began to withdraw from the south, while British forces completed their withdrawal from German territory. It was all rather clockwork and efficient.







At dawn on the 11th November, 6th and 38th Infantry Divisions crossed the Tunisian border into Vichy territory, meeting no opposition, and immediately set off north at top speed heading for Tunis. On the morning of the 12th, the liberation of Belgium and Luxembourg was announced to the world, and the same afternoon, elements of 9th Army crossed into Vichy from Northern France. On the 13th, XXIV Corps, who seemed to have travelled the length and breadth of the Mediterranean, now found themselves heading north from Tel Aviv bound for Beirut.











IX Corps quickly reached Vichy itself, and the battle for the city soon began. Here, the 26th French Infantry Division had no choice but to hold, for if the seat of the Government fell, the communications centre for the whole regime fell too. But it was a rapidly losing battle. At 17.00hrs that evening, the Guards Armoured Division, together with the 93rd Infantry, began advancing east from Bordeaux against an all but empty border.







2. British Infantry during the advance on Vichy


Over the next few days, the British pressed in every direction, but when the dependable old XLI Corps, veterans of so many campaigns, began an advance from Iraq on the 18th, the end was in sight. Vichy itself fell on the morning of the 20th, while that night, British troops reached Tunis. The following day, XXIV Corps drove the weak defenders out of Beirut, and by the 23rd, Vichy had surrendered. On the 24th, France announced it had retaken all its lost territory, and that the accursed Vichy was no more. It had taken less than 2 weeks.











The final act in the liberation of Western Europe took place on the 26th when Britain formally liberated the Netherlands. The borders were now back where they started in 1939, at least in the west. In Italy, German troops had pulled back beyond the demarcation line into the Italian Socialist Republic, leaving Britain to re-occupy her annexed territory in the south of the country.





3. Soldiers about to go on local leave, France, 1944






It had all been achieved in less than 3 weeks. Now Britain, the US, France and the rest of the Allies could begin to focus on the Japanese. The legacy of the end of the European war, and the brief fight to dispose of Vichy, had left the British Army widely scattered by the need to de-concentrate in order to deal with so many targets at once.

Although the war in Europe was over, it was not to be forgotten that it was a truce, and not a victory. Britain, and her re-established Allies, still had to maintain a strong defence against Germany. Britain’s largest and strongest Army, the 2nd, would remain in Northern France, its strength to be raised up to a level of 25 divisions, with at least 5 of Britain’s 13 Armoured Divisions. 9th Army would be transferred to the South of France with 9 Divisions. 8th Army would hold the demarcation line in Italy, also with 9 Divisions. These 3 Armies would now contain the bulk of Britain’s Armour and mobile forces. The former Army of Pakistan, now renamed the Army of Northern Iraq, would hold the Persian border region with 8 Divisions.

The remaining formations of Britain’s regular Infantry, Marine and Mountain divisions, together with all the Light Armour, were to divided between 5th and 11th Armies. 5th Army was now to be transferred east with all possible speed, while 11th Army would follow in early 1945. 3rd and 14th Armies, already in theatre, were also to be reinforced for the new offensive war in the east.

Gort estimated that it would now take at least 2 months to fully reorganise and redeploy forces to the Far East to take on Japan. Many of the men, especially those already in Burma, had been away from home now for 4 years. The estimate was, even with the USA gaining strength by the day, that it would take another 2 years at least to defeat the Japanese.


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Wouldn't it be nice if you could free up all those forces in Europe to deploy against the Japanese? But you're right - it's a true, not a victory, so vigilance should be your watchword!
 
Part 64



The move East

December 1944




1. British Naval prestige. HMS Formidable at Colombo.


With the fifth year of the war drawing to its end and the fighting in Europe over, Britain looked back over what the conflict had cost her. Over 450,000 of her own and the Empires sons now lay dead, and hundreds of thousands more had been wounded. The economy, although propped up by war production, was still heavily reliant on US credits, while the cost of protecting an Empire which stretched around the globe was astronomical. The war in Europe itself had devastated large parts of Italy, France and Belgium, and Britain now had to maintain a large army on the continent to ensure peace. In the Middle East, although Britain had won a resounding victory over Italy, the first cries for independence were already being heard, and the inevitable truth was that she could not hold onto these lands indefinitely without further huge expenditure in both men and money. Already, before the war was even over, many could now see the writing on the wall for the Empire.




Nevertheless, the war was now entering a new, and hopefully, final stage. The whole point of a settlement with Germany, once Hitler had been taken out of the equation, was the defeat of Japan. For Japan had managed so far to expand her own Empire almost unimpeded by the Allies. The US had not managed to build up strength sufficiently fast enough to press a decisive offensive against Japan, and Britain, engaged with both Italy and Germany, had been unable to spare the forces to do anything but nip at her flanks. Now that was going to change.

However, the scale of the redeployment task facing the British armed services now became apparent. It was obvious that the mobile and mechanised Army that had been needed to take on Germany in Europe was not going to be suitable for war in South East Asia. Therefore, before any redeployment could even begin, the Army had to be completely reorganised. During December this task began, with many of the existing formations being broken up and reformed according to their new task. 2nd 8th and 9th Armies would now become almost exclusively mobile, while 5th and 11th Armies, which would form the new offensive element in Asia, were reconstructed with Britain’s traditional Infantry, Marine and Mountain Divisions. And because the Army was scattered from Belgium and Holland to the Caucasus, this task alone was a logistic mammoth. Collectively, many units involved had already clocked up thousands of miles before they even left Europe, while the Royal Navy’s transport assets were stretched to the absolute limit to meet the timescale. GHQ had laid down that the reorganisation was to be complete before the end of December, in order that redeployment could begin in January of 1945. This led on to operations beginning against Japan in Mid March at the earliest. It would take that long to move nearly 300,000 men, 4000 aircraft, 800 ships and support vessels halfway around the world, put the supplies to sustain them in place and draw up the plans to take on the Japanese. It was no easy task.






At the top, 2nd Army Group was now reorganised. Major General Festing was promoted Lt General and took over at I Corps, while its former leader, Alanbrooke, took over the reins at 14th Army. Slim became Field Marshall, reflecting his outstanding organisation skills, and was put in charge of the whole show at 2nd Army Group. By the time 5th and 11th Armies were redeployed, he would have almost 750,000 men under his command.

Both the Royal Navy and the RAF now faced similar difficulties. The South East Asia theatre was enormous, yet the infrastructure there was very poor, and more importantly, the air and naval bases now required to support operations on the ground were insufficient for the size of forces about to be poured in. The supply situation alone would be a war in itself, and that precluded the kind of large scale invasions that had been used in Europe, or the immediate “force to hand” style of air and naval support practised in the West. Both the Navy and the RAF would have to be used in a rotational method in order for the supplies to keep up with operational demands. There was simply not enough room or enough capacity for the whole military machine to be in operation simultaneously.


During this period nevertheless, the Navy were not inactive. For in reality, the first battle that had to be won was the one at sea, to turn Britain’s advantage into a clear superiority. Throughout 1944 an operation had remained on the agenda to take Dutch Java, yet every time the forces were made available for this operation, a crises elsewhere had popped up to force its cancellation. Yet now this operation would be at the top of the priority list. A joint strategy between Britain and the US still had the final details to be worked out, but securing the air and naval bases of Singapore had to be achieved before anything else could be done.

With this in mind, Pound had set in motion a series of operations designed to keep pressure on and weaken the Japanese in the area of Singapore, prior to major land operations beginning in 1945. The first of these operations was set in train on the 1st December, but for the first few weeks, the IJN remained elusive as usual. Then, on 13th December, the Navy got hold of intelligence from the Dutch that an IJN task force was at sea, steaming north away from Singapore. The RN had strong forces in the area, including both 5th and 6th Carrier Groups and the 2nd Battle Group.






With surprise on his side, it was Vian who made contact first, devastating Yamaguchi’s force with his first strike in Lho Balohan, sinking no less than 2 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers and a destroyer covering group. With his escape to the south cut off by Cunningham’s 2nd Battle Group, Yamaguchi tried to escape to the north with his remaining vessels, only to run directly into Sommerville’s 5th Carrier Group, and in this second engagement, all the remaining Japanese ships were sunk, including another escort carrier, and the brave admiral himself who went down with his ship.






It was another crushing victory and a great start to the operation. But the British had not had it all their own way. As the RN withdrew, land based Japanese Naval bombers hit the 2nd Battle Group which had strayed a little too far south, slightly damaging the battleship HMS Howe, sinking the 21st Destroyer flotilla and badly damaging the 19th. It proved the point that Naval superiority alone was not going to be enough. The British had to gain air superiority over Singapore aswell. This was easier said than done, since British possession of the city hung by a thread.




In Burma, all remained quiet as Christmas approached. The Japanese and their allies still sat facing British positions on the opposite side of the Salween River. They had large numbers of troops in place, but the majority of these were poor quality Siamese and Chinese soldiers. Additionally, the terrain over which they had to supply these forces was extremely difficult, and consequently, a stalemate had now set in. The Japanese could not take the offensive through lack of supplies, and the British were not yet strong enough to do so. Meanwhile, Singapore and its air and naval bases was still only held by a single division of low grade irregulars and a single Infantry brigade. And while the Japanese controlled the Tanjung channel and the air above it, getting troops ashore on either side was going to be no easy task.







2. Jungle patrol in I Corps area, Southern Burma


Finally, on Christmas day 1944, the 3rd Transport Group left Behbehan on the Persian Gulf with the advance elements of the 5th Army, the much travelled X Corps, and the Army HQ itself, 45,000 men in total. These would be followed over the next few weeks by V Corps, XXIII and XLI Corps. All told, 5th Army would then muster over 200,000 men alone.




In Europe, the border regions between France, Belgium, Holland and Germany had settled down to peace. Until France could recover her strength, the British 2nd and 9th Armies would remain stationed along the borders. In Italy, the 8th Army had now begun to dig in along the border with the Italian Socialist Republic, just north of Rome. And even though these Armies were no longer fighting, significant reinforcements had continued to arrive in the form of additional brigades to bring every British Division up to a strength of 4 brigades. This program would be virtually finished by the end of January, meaning that the European Army was very much stronger now than it had been a year ago. It had to be, for the deterrent to Germany was now a vital part of the peace.




At the end of December, the Admiralty also embarked upon a completely new operation against an enemy who had so far remained virtually untouched. The Navy now began patrol operations down the Brazilian coast, which for the moment was limited by range, since the only bases that could be used were those on the African coast and the tiny island base at Ascension. Nevertheless, it was a start. Submarine operations were also due to start against the Brazilians soon, and it was hoped that this would draw their naval forces out into battle. This was not to be treated lightly, since it was known that the Brazilian navy included at least 2 modern battleships, and since no carriers could be spared from the Pacific to counter them, this was going to be an old fashioned battleship v battleship cat and mouse duel.




On New Year’s Eve, the Admiralty, the Air Staff and GHQ sat down and drew up some basic plans for the coming operations in the Far East. With the Americans still firmly bogged down in their Island campaign, it was hoped that British operations would draw off sufficient strength to allow the US to mount operations against the Japanese home islands before the end of 1945. Then, with the British occupying the Japanese in Asia, it might be possible for a two pronged offensive against their mainland possessions in China and Korea.

However, for the moment, Pound suggested that Phase 1 operations to secure Singapore be followed by an offensive up the Malay Peninsula, which would be mounted in tandem with an offensive by 14th Army from Burma. Once this had the enemy’s attention, and assuming that naval superiority was sufficiently in hand, an operation be mounted in Phase 3 to land in French Indochina. This it was hoped would threaten Japan’s tenuous supply situation even further, and with their forces beset on three sides, should lead to victory in the south.




This was agreed as the broad general strategy to be followed, but Pound pointed out that up until now, the Navy had not yet faced any of Japan’s fleet carriers. These had been engaged against the Americans, and that if the operations of the Royal Navy were to achieve their desired effect, then this meant some of them would be diverted to face the British. In that case, the Navy could not expect such an easy fight as they had had up to now.

The fight against the Italians and the Germans had been tough at times. But they had no Carriers. The Imperial Japanese Navy still had 12 that they knew of, and maybe more. In a war of attrition to gain the superiority that was needed, the Royal Navy had now to expect more serious losses. There was no other way.


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Wow, two great updates and an interesting outlook on the things to come.

Can you expect any help from e.g. Australia or ist it just the US and you?
Also, what's the situation in Eastern Europe?
 
Any chance to go through Indonesia and link up with the Australians in Borneo? That would remove access to resources for Japan and remove the threat of IJN raids on Australian soil at the same time.
 
Can you imagine the anger if people tried to say 'the Americans won the war' in this timeline. :L