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    Noooooo. RIP Rosa. Your legacy will not be forgotten. I just hope another moderating influence emerges. Otherwise I fear instability.

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    A fitting song. ((But for Soviet Union hear VSVR obviously ))

    Quote Originally Posted by Enewald View Post
    Representative democracy works best with OMOV.
    Anything else is cheating.

    One man, one vote. Women included.
    With OMOV and so many parties, a person with the plurality of votes will become chairman, and this will often be someone opposed by the majority (in an earlier post I calculated that under the OMOV system someone (Lenin) opposed by 60% of voters would have won!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Communard View Post
    With OMOV and so many parties, a person with the plurality of votes will become chairman, and this will often be someone opposed by the majority (in an earlier post I calculated that under the OMOV system someone (Lenin) opposed by 60% of voters would have won!
    Why we need a 2nd round with the two main candidates.

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    Happy now Marxists???
    Very. Now shut up and go eat some Russian babies!

    Another Fantastic update, I like how you turned Rosa into a martyr early rather than let her waste away like Weitling. I wonder on what you plan to do with Bronstein though, now with his reputation as a military commander and war hero will he be threatening Lenin's position as head of the M-L's anytime soon?
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    Poor Luxemberg! Who will be the principle ally of the Democrats now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanxia View Post
    Poor Luxemberg! Who will be the principle ally of the Democrats now?
    Democrat singular surely, comrade?
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    For our skills are not needed, they've streamlined the job
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    Defend Finland, avenge Rosa!

    Make the Russian capitalises pay for this insult!

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    A hero of the revolution has been slain by the bourgeois demon. Luxemburg must be avenged! Smash the Tsarist behemoth, execute the tyrant, and liberate the vast hordes of workers and farmers! Incorporate Russia into the VSVR!

    (( It may be impossible in game terms, but hey, it makes a good rallying cry. ))

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    Not all Russians are under the command of the Tsar. Lenin probably shot himself to provide an alibi. An assassin trying to shoot Lenin in the head might have shot Rosa in the leg, but the geometry is all wrong for Lenin to get shot in the leg.

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    Will we get to a World Socialist Republic and the beginnings of the emergence of "lower" communism by 1936?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenin Cat View Post
    the emergence of "lower" communism by 1936?
    What?
    What's that?
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    I'm guessing either fascism or Communism (With the latter meaning Marx's promised classless society)

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    IIRC the "lower stage" of communism is another word for "socialism", a classless society in which distribution is related to contribution, as opposed to the "higher stage" of communism or plain "communism", in which distribution is based purely on need. The latter follows the former in Marxist theory I think.
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    Aid the insane Enewald in his charge to liberate the rest of Finland! Crush the Russians! No one will murder my chairman and get away with it, no matter if it's Rosa Luxemburg or even Vladimir Lenin! SHOW THEM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE VSVR!
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    Oh no, not Rosa! Is she destined to die young in all time lines? Cool to see Trotsky arrive and to be a military personality though! Beat those feudal Russians to a pulp! Free the rest of the Polish and Finnish peoples, and perhaps the Baltic ones too!
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    May I suggest the renaming of a city in Luxemburg's honour? Not her name, per say, as that only encourages a cult of personality, but a rebranding in the spirit of what she represents; a revolutionary hero, murdered by the agents of capitalism. Perhaps a name like Befreiungstadt*?

    One of the liberated Polish towns would be fitting - Warsaw or Lublin, even?

    (( * - I'm not even sure it's the correct term. I'm just going by what Google Translate tells me. ))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konnigratz View Post
    May I suggest the renaming of a city in Luxemburg's honour? Not her name, per say, as that only encourages a cult of personality, but a rebranding in the spirit of what she represents; a revolutionary hero, murdered by the agents of capitalism. Perhaps a name like Befreiungstadt*?

    One of the liberated Polish towns would be fitting - Warsaw or Lublin, even?

    (( * - I'm not even sure it's the correct term. I'm just going by what Google Translate tells me. ))
    How about an entire area!

    Oh! I've thought of the best place! Its this little area on the Franco-VSVR border just North of Elass, West of the Rhineland and South of Wallonia. Seems perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy4ever View Post
    How about an entire area!

    Oh! I've thought of the best place! Its this little area on the Franco-VSVR border just North of Elass, West of the Rhineland and South of Wallonia. Seems perfect!
    Oh no, not my Letzeburg!
    Not over my dead body!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy4ever View Post
    How about an entire area!

    Oh! I've thought of the best place! Its this little area on the Franco-VSVR border just North of Elass, West of the Rhineland and South of Wallonia. Seems perfect!
    Pff, that Luxemburg is an old bourgeois name! We need new, modern, socialist place names. In places we've gained from those bloody murdering Russians!

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