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    Just a question Tommy, what happens if 2 candidates (or more) have the same number of votes ?

    And of course, please vote for the Marxist-Leninists ! Vote for Trotsky ! Vote for a powerful VSVR !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakharov View Post
    Just a question Tommy, what happens if 2 candidates (or more) have the same number of votes ?

    And of course, please vote for the Marxist-Leninists ! Vote for Trotsky ! Vote for a powerful VSVR !
    I guess we'll have to turn to the workers.

    And of course, please vote for the Democratic Anarchists ! Vote for Goldman ! Vote for a powerful VSVR !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyranum View Post
    I guess we'll have to turn to the workers.

    And of course, please vote for the Democratic Anarchists ! Vote for Goldman ! Vote for a powerful VSVR !
    The DA want to make VSVR weaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTheConq View Post
    The DA want to make VSVR weaker
    How so?
    You have to present some facts and an argument instead of just a line.
    I don't think you'll convince anybody with just a line. (and you won't convince me with a real argument either)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konnigratz View Post
    No, I do not say we should constantly war, oppress our people and keep them ignorant. Why do you fools think war is a tool of oppression? The most startling successes in the history of the VSVR have been achieved through war. The liberation of Germany, of Belgium, of Poland, of Bohemia-Moravia. The Great Liberation War. What has peace gained us? Krakow? Our people are free, wealthy and content because of war. Now we have the upper hand, and cannot rest until the diseased, bloated mass that is capitalism is dead. For now, war is not an option. Britain is too strong. China is too strong. But in two years, they may not be. And I doubt an Anarchist chairman, so petrified are they of war, of advancing the revolution, would have the courage to act upon the weakness of capitalism.
    Presumably you lost no-one in the "Great Liberation War" then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Konnigratz View Post
    And Enewald's "mortal men" comment was clearly not referring to the constitution. It was made in the context of a rant about Marxist policy being named after two dead men. Whereas he seems to be under the impression that Anarchism is some omnipresent force that is "worshipped" by men, rather than an ideology like Marxist-Leninism which is theorised by mortal men.
    Aha I see thanks for the clarificaiton.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTheConq View Post
    The DA want to make VSVR weaker
    No we don't. What on Earth gave you that idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanxia View Post
    Presumably you lost no-one in the "Great Liberation War" then.


    Aha I see thanks for the clarificaiton.


    No we don't. What on Earth gave you that idea?
    "Democratic Anarchists will introduce a constitution that properly defines and limits the powers of the Chairman, Central Committee and Assembly"
    look at the last time a goverment lacked power (e.g when anarchists still couldt get majority seats when it won ages ago) which didnt have enough power to intervene with the trade unions. Also wats the point in getting rid of the state when we havent even won yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanxia View Post
    Presumably you lost no-one in the "Great Liberation War" then.
    I doubt anyone's life was untouched by death in some form during the war. However, they died to make the world a much better place. While one father may have died to the guns, two hundred more will not suffer from disease and starvation in the Tsar's prison camps. Blood shed for the revolution is blood shed for a noble cause. Surely you must see this?

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    The Marxist-Leninists and the Democratic Anarchists are now level on 29 votes each.

    As for what happens if this ends with the tallies tied ...

    We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

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    I'm tempted to switch my vote from national communist to democratic anarchist but I really need to stop with the vote switching. I've probably done it more then anyone else in the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keynes2.0 View Post
    I'm tempted to switch my vote from national communist to democratic anarchist but I really need to stop with the vote switching. I've probably done it more then anyone else in the thread.
    I'd be pretty annoyed if the election was won through strategic vote-swap with less than 24 hours to go. So, aye, don't change votes!

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    Anarchist comrade who voted for the Anarcho-Kadonist!

    At this moment every single vote vote may be decisive for both the trotskysts and the democratic anarchists!
    We may disagree on how to develop the republic toward the stateless society but on one thing we all agree: we must keep trotsky out of power and finally bring peace to our people!
    If Trotsky win he will disband your faction like he did with the True Germans, but if we, democrats and kadonist, united anarchists, join forces then it's possible to defeat the common enemy and build an anarchist coalition who will keep safe our republic from warmongers and nationalists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by viola View Post
    Anarchist comrade who voted for the Anarcho-Kadonist!

    At this moment every single vote vote may be decisive for both the trotskysts and the democratic anarchists!
    We may disagree on how to develop the republic toward the stateless society but on one thing we all agree: we must keep trotsky out of power and finally bring peace to our people!
    If Trotsky win he will disband your faction like he did with the True Germans, but if we, democrats and kadonist, united anarchists, join forces then it's possible to defeat the common enemy and build an anarchist coalition who will keep safe our republic from warmongers and nationalists!
    The only way the Kadonists are going to be banned is if they try to launch their idiotic coup. Which they have promised to do, might I add. They split from the main faction for a reason. The fact that you appeal to the faction shown to be blatantly undemocratic in order to keep out Trotsky, who is not a tyrant no matter what your views are on the True Germans, shows how much contempt you show for democratic process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viola View Post
    Anarchist comrade who voted for the Anarcho-Kadonist!

    At this moment every single vote vote may be decisive for both the trotskysts and the democratic anarchists!
    We may disagree on how to develop the republic toward the stateless society but on one thing we all agree: we must keep trotsky out of power and finally bring peace to our people!
    If Trotsky win he will disband your faction like he did with the True Germans, but if we, democrats and kadonist, united anarchists, join forces then it's possible to defeat the common enemy and build an anarchist coalition who will keep safe our republic from warmongers and nationalists!
    Didn't two people just say we shouldn't change our votes this close to the end of the election? <.<
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    Tommy, did the USA do anything interesting? It's around Theodore Roosevelt's presidency in this time period, I believe.

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    Unite and support the DAs, they are our only hope of avoiding another term for Trotsky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinOverlord View Post
    Tommy, did the USA do anything interesting? It's around Theodore Roosevelt's presidency in this time period, I believe.
    He was mentioned in the last AAR entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    Didn't two people just say we shouldn't change our votes this close to the end of the election? <.<
    Yep. Seems to have fallen on deaf ears... but even though I want to see the DAs win rather than MLs, I'm not changing my vote. I would hope that others have the decency not to as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    Didn't two people just say we shouldn't change our votes this close to the end of the election? <.<
    As things stand now, no faction has a majority without a coalition; I think viola was speaking more to encourage the A-Ks to form a governing coalition with the D-As than to ask A-K voters to switch their votes.

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    I know this election isn't even over yet, but all the same I'd like to throw out a suggestion for a national communist agenda item next time around.

    Industries that have been proven to be unprofitable need to be handed over to the trade unions specifically tasked with phasing them out and making room for new industries which will be given funding to expand as quickly as possible. This will result in years of unemployment in the regions where change is needed however the state will subsidize the transition. The trade unions tasked with reducing capacity in overdeveloped industries will be given adequate funding to provide good wages to their workers whether or not they are unemployed through no fault of their own. This way we will not need to worry about regional lobbying to keep the local industry open because of fears of poverty, all workers will be taken care of.

    This transition will not be easy, but we do not set out to do easy things. We set out to do the right thing. The chains of the status quo will weigh us down just as surely as the chains of the capitalist. In order for socialism to succeed, we must be willing to endure hardship today in return for a better life tomorrow. The birthplace of socialism should not be dependent on the rest of the world to subsidize antiquated production. Germany is capable of producing the finest goods in the world and should live up to that potential!

    ((I'm throwing this idea out there because I think an element of enduring hardship for the national good is very much appropriate to the National Communist ideology that we've seen so far. But feel free to ignore it or make it the platform of any party you chose. That is unless you already did something like this and didn't tell us?))
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