And in the same breath we should not forget who brought them to the cause of the Republic so strongly?
And all the things we made by hand/Are nowadays made in Japan/EASTERN PEOPLE!/EASTERN TRIBE!/So proud to live, so proud to die
They took the whole eastern nation/Locked us in these reservations/Although we wear blue shirts and ties/We're still the red man deep inside/Although they changed our ways of hope/They'll never change our heart and souls/And then someday when the world has learned
Civilization will return








And the political finger-pointing begins again. Oy.
I didn't deny anything, I just asked where it came from and for a quote. That's all. "And you have a source, yes?" is not "That's a dirty dirty lie, you have no proof of that!" I simply asked for you to confirm where you got it. I meant no harm. I won't say anything like that again, even if the post starts saying "Anarchists are planning on reviving the Dinosaurs."
Sorry, but I have to say that to me "Völker Beobachter" sounds quite strange and like Enewald I was reminded of the brown rag as well.
If you want to use it anyway, I would suggest that you write it as one word (i.e. "Völkerbeobachter") or that you change it slightly to "Beobachter der Völker".
Nice overall design though.![]()
Well that's the feeling people got, obviously. I mean, what else are we to assume when you start asking for sources and quotes for something that is very easy for you yourself to find? The dinosaur thing is irrelevant, because that's hardly comparable to the resistance to social reforms which, once again, you could've found yourself.
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Voelker Beobachter seems to me to be "Monitor of the People", while Voelkischer Beobachter would be "Popular Monitor". The technically correct grammar would be "Beobachter der Voelker" if my guess as to the meaning of the actual title is correct. The difference is that "Beobachter der Voelker" has a slight Orwellian "Big Brother is watching you" tinge, while "Voelkischer Beobachter" seems like a more generic newspaper title.
I could have, but so could you or anyone else. Instead of helping me out and finding it, you instead misrepresented what I was saying. The Dinosaur thing is relevent because no I know that no matter what someone says, I won't ask where it came from. That is all. I won't ask where something is anymore.
Well, why should we have helped you find something that, like I said, was very easy to find? I'd understand if it was something difficult and/or vague or hard to locate, but it wasn't such at all; I may have even understood if you said it in a different fashion ("Where did it say that?" would have been acceptable, IMO). Regardless, we may have misinterpreted you, but it was something very hard to interprete correctly with the intent that you claim to have had, due to your rather accusatory tone. At least, to me it sounded such; It may just be me, but "Do you have a readily available source and quote?" sounds rather accusatory and somewhat derogatory, although that may perhaps be from my experience as a wiki editor, as such words are often used with a rather sarcastic tone.
EDIT: looking back at this, I find that I apparently like to use the word "such" a lot. lol
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The United Front has the best overall platform. Hopefully in future elections we will see grand coalitions of them and the Anarchists as this should in my opinion lead us in the right direction. The peasants' vote is inevitable, the sooner it is passed the better.
I voted for the Anarchists last time, but with the UF increasingly favoring moderate Anarchist policies, and the Marxists a weakened and largely insignificant threat, the UF is a better choice. I will be happy to see the GS back soon too, as they have much to contribute to the republic.
Just to be sure, the constituent assembly won't be formed until the next election. Since first the government must be formed, then they must reform themselves.
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Time for a true revolution of the proletariat!
Scholar, maybe you should vote before you comment.
I second this, how can we even consider offering peasants the vote if they can't read the ballot paper?I'd like to see a whole swathe of stats. Can we get some info on the country we are in? Literacy is a must!
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The phrase "Völker Beobachter" is actually just two separate words written next to each other, it certainly does not mean "Monitor of the People". Like I said, for them to mean that you have to combine them into one word like this: "Völkerbeobachter".
"Beobachter der Völker" can mean an observer that observes the people of the world, just like the above "Völkerbeobachter". It can also just as well mean one that observes for the people of the world.
And finally "Völkischer Beobachter", let us just say there are reasons why I would not use it.
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Yes, we shouldn't just give them a vote, but they should have representation. Socialism is difficult to bring to the rural areas, but I believe we need to ensure that all people in the People's state are properly enfranchised. Once they are brought into the fold, maybe then they can be encompassed into the worker's vote.