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    The revolution in Bhutan is wonderful news. However, it is pushed to a back seat by the huge Anarchist Problem argument. By looking over the forums (I have been taking a break from this AAR ATM) it seems a full blown civil war might occur!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt_everos View Post
    The revolution in Bhutan is wonderful news. However, it is pushed to a back seat by the huge Anarchist Problem argument. By looking over the forums (I have been taking a break from this AAR ATM) it seems a full blown civil war might occur!
    The suggested civil war will only occur if everyone continues to berate the anarchists and force us further and further into a corner. I can guarantee that if every single Socialist, UC, and Marxist dares not say a single negative phrase against the anarchists until the next update then there will be no civil war.

    Anyways... We should congradulate our bretheren in Bhutan and set up an official embassy to protect them from foreign, imperialist, capitalist influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt_everos View Post
    The revolution in Bhutan is wonderful news. However, it is pushed to a back seat by the huge Anarchist Problem argument. By looking over the forums (I have been taking a break from this AAR ATM) it seems a full blown civil war might occur!
    Like scholar said, if you keep poking the bear with the stick, then yes, the bear is going to get pissed off and try to eat your hand.

    Keep all the anti-Anarchist rhetoric off, and we won't do anything. Or, at the very least, I won't; I can't speak for the others.
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    Comrades, my trigger finger is getting quite itchy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricainfier View Post
    Comrades, my trigger finger is getting quite itchy!
    And it will continue to be so, unless you plan to cause unecessary violence that won't solve anything.
    A rebel without a cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    And it will continue to be so, unless you plan to cause unecessary violence that won't solve anything.
    Hence the wink brother. Lighten up, the Marxists will crumble soon enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricainfier View Post
    Hence the wink brother. Lighten up, the Marxists will crumble soon enough!
    Forgive me comrade; these are trying times. Though the liberation of Bhutan from the capitalist dogs cheers me up a bit, I still feel weary from the heat of the elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    Like scholar said, if you keep poking the bear with the stick, then yes, the bear is going to get pissed off and try to eat your hand.

    Keep all the anti-Anarchist rhetoric off, and we won't do anything. Or, at the very least, I won't; I can't speak for the others.
    I and many other Anarchists will do the same. I have very little faith that the number of "radically violent" Anarchists is above a handful of ambitious minds eager to start conflict to make a name for themselves.

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    Firstly, congratulations to the most enlightened people of Bhutan for overthrowing their government and embracing Socialism. Exactly how they found out what Socialism was, and how they managed to engage a Proletarian revolution when they most likely don't have a Proletariat will forever remain a mystery.

    I feel I speak for all our brothers when I call on the government to boost relations with this young state. We should not let the first true Socialist state outside of Europe fall into British hands!
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    Keep all the anti-Anarchist rhetoric off, and we won't do anything. Or, at the very least, I won't; I can't speak for the others.
    Might I kindly ask that the Anarchists do the same?
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    Perhaps Comrade Blanque could be given the less stressful position of permanent ambassador to Bhutan, as a reward for his service to the Republic?
    Who better to boost relations than the man behind much of the recent expansion of communism here in Europe.
    If the chairman signs such an order his desk here in Cologne could be cleaned out by Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keynes2.0 View Post
    Might I kindly ask that the Anarchists do the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scholar View Post
    The suggested civil war will only occur if everyone continues to berate the anarchists and force us further and further into a corner. I can guarantee that if every single Socialist, UC, and Marxist dares not say a single negative phrase against the anarchists until the next update then there will be no civil war.
    Just wondering here, but if you want a free press why exactly are you banning criticism of yourselves under threat of violence? I realise the imbalance of rhetoric from the UC does seem to have been against the Anarchists , but that was because you were frequently in second or first place, while the Marxists trailed behind. Oversensetivity to criticism won't get you far once comrade Engels has freed the presses and ALL can have their voices heard. I personally have tried to criticise the Blanquists just as much, but when you are debating mostly Anarchists it is difficult. There was a poor showing in the debating hall as in the election for the Blanquists.[[And anyway, you here in the thread have no control over whether there's a civil war or not ]]

    My congratulations to the people of Bhutan! No doubt the first in a wave of Asian revolutions. I hope that there they will remain a united front, for if they descend into pointless bickering their chances of survival are nil. Food for thought, comrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Communard View Post
    Just wondering here, but if you want a free press why exactly are you banning criticism of yourselves under threat of violence? I realise the imbalance of rhetoric from the UC does seem to have been against the Anarchists , but that was because you were frequently in second or first place, while the Marxists trailed behind. Oversensetivity to criticism won't get you far once comrade Engels has freed the presses and ALL can have their voices heard. I personally have tried to criticise the Blanquists just as much, but when you are debating mostly Anarchists it is difficult. There was a poor showing in the debating hall as in the election for the Blanquists.[[And anyway, you here in the thread have no control over whether there's a civil war or not ]]
    That's because the Marxist-Centralist alliance has set policies, whereas the anarchists don't even know what their own policies are! The only thing they can seem to agree on is that they want a "free" (read: anarchist) press and that they hate Blanqui.

    What's funny is how the anarchists keep on insisting that their extremism is caused by the Marxists and Centralists, and that if these two parties go away they wouldn't be extremists anymore. Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzhang (譚張) View Post
    That's because the Marxist-Centralist alliance has set policies, whereas the anarchists don't even know what their own policies are! The only thing they can seem to agree on is that they want a "free" (read: anarchist) press and that they hate Blanqui.

    What's funny is how the anarchists keep on insisting that their extremism is caused by the Marxists and Centralists, and that if these two parties go away they wouldn't be extremists anymore. Please.
    That's one of the things I like about the Anarchists. As a former Marxist, I have to say that the increasing ideological homogeneity, and the idea that if we did not all beilieve the same thing we would be berated by Blanqui, was one of the main reasons I left. Homogeneity leads to stagnation, and in this world, stagnation leads to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Communard View Post
    That's one of the things I like about the Anarchists. As a former Marxist, I have to say that the increasing ideological homogeneity, and the idea that if we did not all beilieve the same thing we would be berated by Blanqui, was one of the main reasons I left. Homogeneity leads to stagnation, and in this world, stagnation leads to death.
    I disagree, under the Marxists Marx or whoever the Chairman was would tell us what they were going to do, and then they would do it. When the Marxists promised social reforms they did them, and our people's standards of living improved. When they went to expand our territory, they did, and the lot of the liberated people improved. Homogenity leads to stability, erraticism leads to instability and in this world, instability leads to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzhang (譚張) View Post
    I disagree, under the Marxists Marx or whoever the Chairman was would tell us what they were going to do, and then they would do it. When the Marxists promised social reforms they did them, and our people's standards of living improved. When they went to expand our territory, they did, and the lot of the liberated people improved. Homogenity leads to stability, erraticism leads to instability and in this world, instability leads to death.
    But how would they decide what to do without the free exchange of opinion? It is impossible for one man to know everything about the country. Thus they would not know what was required unless a free debate about policy were to take place, the various arguments for and against it considered and a decision reached democratically. Also, I would argue that suppression of an opinion radicalises its holder and turns them more towards violence, thus your "stability" is made of plaster and easily shatered. But if you allow those opinions voice in a political sysyem, they will not try to shoot you (well, barring people like Enelwald, for whom I think there is no home in any form of state).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzhang (譚張) View Post
    That's because the Marxist-Centralist alliance has set policies, whereas the anarchists don't even know what their own policies are! The only thing they can seem to agree on is that they want a "free" (read: anarchist) press and that they hate Blanqui.

    What's funny is how the anarchists keep on insisting that their extremism is caused by the Marxists and Centralists, and that if these two parties go away they wouldn't be extremists anymore. Please.
    We are trying to free everyone!
    Our policy is to undo policies!

    The Marxists are just creating a new elite to oppress us, we shall slay the tyrants and king-makers!

    Free press is just one small step on the path of salvation of freedom.
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