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    I urge those voting for the United Cooperationists to change their votes to the United Socialists.

    While both parties desire to mend the rifts in the party peacefully and place a halt on Blanque's aspirations, the Cooperationists policy would put a stop to further progressive social reforms and work towards unravelling our system of progressive taxation. I feel that the Anarchist faction of the Cooperationists has gained the predominant share of power and threaten the internal development of our socialist society.
    By voting for the German Socialists you are voting to put an end to the dreadful spate of industrial accidents depriving workers of the livelihoods and lives. You are voting to improve the safety net available to our most vulnerable members of society.
    The Cooperationists would ignore these pressing issues to the ordinary people of the republic just for the sake of pandering to radical anarchist sentiment and placing their ideological purity above compassion for the working class.

    I believe we shall the workers vote come strongly in favour of the German Socialists as they represent the interests of the working class! Not Blanque, nor Kadon, but the very people this republic was founded to empower, the proletariat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalelovil View Post
    I urge those voting for the United Cooperationists to change their votes to the United Socialists.

    While both parties desire to mend the rifts in the party peacefully and place a halt on Blanque's aspirations, the Cooperationists policy would put a stop to further progressive social reforms and work towards unravelling our system of progressive taxation. I feel that the Anarchist faction of the Cooperationists has gained the predominant share of power and threaten the internal development of our socialist society.
    By voting for the German Socialists you are voting to put an end to the dreadful spate of industrial accidents depriving workers of the livelihoods and lives. You are voting to improve the safety net available to our most vulnerable members of society.
    The Cooperationists would ignore these pressing issues to the ordinary people of the republic just for the sake of pandering to radical anarchist sentiment and placing their ideological purity above compassion for the working class.

    I believe we shall the workers vote come strongly in favour of the German Socialists as they represent the interests of the working class! Not Blanque, nor Kadon, but the very people this republic was founded to empower, the proletariat.
    The Cooperationists are the only ones who can win the kind of broad support needed to beat both the Blanquists and the Anarchists. I personally agree about the issues of social reform, comrade, but if we are plunged into civil war there will be no social reforms for anyone! And the German Socialists do not seek to liberalise the press, what is that if it is not empowering the proletariat?

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    I vote Marxist-Centralists.

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    Also regarding the anarchist/socialist dichotomy, it's kinda the anarchists turn. We've had a good run of social reforms. Our work is never done, but we've laid a solid foundation. We need to appease the other side of the party and show that this is a unity platform in more then name. Once we have assuaged the not unreasonable concerns of the anarchists, we can continue to work on fulfilling the promises of socialism.
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    Hrmh. I believe at this point, I will have to wait for the next poll update to vote, in order to see the status of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Communard View Post
    The Cooperationists are the only ones who can win the kind of broad support needed to beat both the Blanquists and the Anarchists. I personally agree about the issues of social reform, comrade, but if we are plunged into civil war there will be no social reforms for anyone!
    The Socialists will enjoy broad support from the most important part of the electorate, the proletariat. I do not believe the Cooperationists, a liberal party, will receive significant support from the workers in the assembly. Combined with those who recently changed their votes from Socialist to Cooperationists, simply because of what they see as the momentum changing, changing their votes back to Socialists; it should be entirely possible for the Socialists to enjoy a comfortable victory in the elections.

    Quote Originally Posted by Communard View Post
    And the German Socialists do not seek to liberalise the press, what is that if it is not empowering the proletariat?
    A liberalisation of the press in the manner the Cooperationists and Anarchists advocate is simply handing over the power of propoganda to those with the most wealth and shadowy foreign financiers. Don't fool yourself into thinking that the individual worker will have any control over a so called "free press". I would prefer an alternative of unions establishing the own printing presses and regional newspapers as well as further encouragement for the party rank-and-file to participate in the state press.
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    Instead of United Cooperationists, perhaps they should be the Unified Combined Socialist Front of Glorious Anti-Capitalist Unity (UCSFGACU for short).

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    Quote Originally Posted by naggy View Post
    Instead of United Cooperationists, perhaps they should be the Unified Combined Socialist Front of Glorious Anti-Capitalist Unity (UCSFGACU for short).
    I do hope you are kidding. lol

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    I vote for the Marxist-Centralist Alliance! Destruction of the Anarcists will bring peace to the Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzhang (譚張) View Post
    You are not pacifists. If you were you would resort to nonviolent resistance rather than assassinations, bombings and mass violence.
    I don't think that the idea of reducing our military & not instigating wars would even be on the table right now if it was not for the violence. And that prior mentioned violence, very little has been tied directly to Anarchists. We don't know who killed Proudhon and the events surrounding the "riot"/protest, which resulted in an AKVD-led massacre, are pretty murky.

    I can't speak for other Pacifists (keep in mind, I've used 'we are Pacifists' mainly because of the in-game designation of the Anarchists' military-policy of "Pacifism"), but I'd be willing to commit violence in order to prevent a war which will kill tens of thousands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzhang (譚張) View Post
    OOC: Thanks to Kadon for writing up that long piece, it was great reading even though I strongly disagree with every single point.
    All in good fun, I expect such treatment from one of the Party's leading Marxist/Centralist thinkers.
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    ...Kadon - you may have seen him in the story, he's a strait laced radical Anarchist and all round man's man

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    A message to all the Marxists-Centralists:

    We Anarchists don't want civil war! But we want to be able to speak up openly. And we are not cattle which waits for its slaughterer.

    If you want to suppress us, we will shoot back. It's your fault that the situation heated up like this by violently suppressing the Anarchists. Not everyone is so stupid and mixes up your "Socialism" which is just bribing the workers with some goodies with the true aim of the revolution: power to the people! You can't brainwash everyone, and as long as you try to do you will provoce violence. But I'm sure you know this - this violence is used as excuse to continue your suppression of the free minds!

    So I vote for the Collective Anarchists - let us take back our freedom!

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    United Cooperationists

    This Dichotomy has gotten out of control. We have voting, and the vote has been extended to the proletariat. Take a look at the world around us. Look at the Monarchists, look at the Bourgeoise Republicans, look at the Nationalists, then look at the Anarchists and Communists. We may all have our differences, but at least we have the same goal. Whether that stateless Utopia be called Communism or Anarchy, we all have the idea that people should only be ruled by themselves, not Capitalists, not Aristocrats, nor some kind of regionalist tribalism. If we want to work towards Utopia then we must work together. Violence, be it towards underground freedom fighters, or representatives of the people, is contrary to the ideals this revolution came about on. Both sides want to silence the opposition, but what is Community but the words of everyone, considered equally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by naggy View Post
    Instead of United Cooperationists, perhaps they should be the Unified Combined Socialist Front of Glorious Anti-Capitalist Unity (UCSFGACU for short).
    Haha! I don't suppose you rember the Iron Vist Velvet Glove People's Glory Party for the Bettermeant of the German Working People's Party of Germany (the name was something like that anyway ) from the original Realpolitik? IIRC I was Deputy Leader and ofc head spammer.

    As for Tanzhang's critique of Kadon's letter, I saw nothing wrong with it. It would indeed be rather odd if the Marxists didn't respond the such a letter.

    Scores on the doors:

    27 votes

    UC: 8

    Marxists-Centralists: 7

    Anarchists: 7

    German Socialists: 5

    Remeber that this doesn't take into account the Workers' Vote which with things so tight will almost definately play a major role in the final outcome. So as always I encourage to to get voting and to get voting for who you want to win.

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    I'll toss a vote the way of the Anarchists.
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    I cast my vote for the Anarchists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candidus View Post
    I cast my vote for the Anarchists
    Quote Originally Posted by mislock View Post
    I'll toss a vote the way of the Anarchists.
    Bravo comrades! The Anarchist Militia also awaits! Which reminds me, I've got to come up with a better name than Anarchist Militia, any ideas?

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    I know I posted very recently but I have another message for everyone.

    Comrades! I'd like to point you in the direction of another communistic AAR:

    Radio Freies Berlin, a Kaiserreich AAR!

    Its a HoI2 AAR, as the name would suggest, and from a new authAAR. However its real draw is its uniqueness. Each update is presented in the fashion of a radio broadcast that keeps us up to date with the events of the war. He also gives us youtube links to some nice revolutionary tracks at the start of each update.

    A great AAR without an audience of the size it deserves, I encourage you wholeheartedly to give it a look.

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    The syndicalist tendency hereby support the United Cooperationists, as we see no other option - we must as the separate fingers in the clenched fist stand together to overcome both the inside and the outside reaction.

    I urge every sensible anarchist to do the same. The young anarchists are partly right in their critique but have no understanding that their actions will destroy the revolution instead of restoring it to the workers.



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    The Anarchist Zeal

    Election Update

    Polls currently show the Collective Anarchist Party (KAP in German, PCA in French, and CAP in Dutch/Flemish) in a tie with the Marx smelling UCers. However, we do not know how the worker's vote is turning comrades. We need to have rallies all over the countryside and cities. We need to show the farmers we are just as much for them and their voices as those of the laborers. The other movements have been ignoring them. Comrades, if you are worried Blanqui will attack our rallies again, never fear! The newly rechristened Anarchistisch Libertarian Volksmiliz/Milice Populaire Anarchiste Libertaire/Libertair Anarchistische Volksmilitie (ALV/MPAL/LAV) will be there to protect you. Onward to the rallies comrades, onward for liberty!

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