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    I place my vote for the German Socialists.

    We must push on with social reforms and progressive taxation, while calming the tensions between the party factions and limiting the authority available to the secretive and ruthless Blanque.
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    I sure wish we had second opinion voting, I'm very torn. I prefer the marxist economic and foreign program, but the brutally hard-line stance on internal political affairs makes it impossible for me to vote for them. The cooperationinsts seem a better choice, but it's a shame that they don't want to expand social reforms. I'm opposed to private press, and perplexed that none of it's supporters can come up with a good argument for why wealthy people should be allowed to spread private propaganda in the VSVR. However, this compromise with capitalism might be nessecary to placate the rabid argumentation of the anarchists. And then there's the socialists - decent policies all round, but would it be a waste to vote with them? What are their intentions regarding the anarchists?

    Add to this, the confusion of the Worker's Vote, and it becomes extremely difficult to place a vote. If I could, I'd vote for the UC and then the Socialists as my second opinion, but since that's not possible, I'll be forced to consider for a while and listen to the continued debate within the party.
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    That is it! I had enough of this nonsense, comrades! Support the Marxist-Centralist Alliance! Clearly, these Anarchists have always been undermining our revolution from the start! They are against the social reforms, now look at our happy and healthy citizens with the Socialists' and Marxists' reforms. They are against war, now look at our joyous and liberated proletariats outside the Rhine, they were gratified by our sacrifices!
    See, comrades? I have never doubt that I was wrong on choosing our leader before and I still have no doubts on choosing the Marxists-Centralists! I have my full support for comrade Marx and comrade Blanqui on purging the Anarchists immediately, execute "coooooomrade" Kadon and his Young Anarchist cohorts and close down that rag called "Anarchist Zeal"!
    Swear allegiance to the People's Party and their ideals now, comrades, or be marked as a traitor to the people! Support the Marxists-Centralists! This revolution must not be stopped!

    You think I'm overreacting? Comrades! You clearly do not see the big picture. Even with all the spectacular victories by our outstanding People's Army, I applaud our brave soldiers, we are still a Red island on a sea of Whites! While you're all bickering, the Reactionaries: Austria, France and Great Britain are still just beyond our borders. They can crush this socialist paradise in a snap! We must keep on expanding to protect our interests and to liberate more of our comrades that are under the shackles of aristocracy, imperialism and capitalism! Comrades! Isn't that WHY we fought in this revolution in the first place!?

    Vote for the Marxist-Centralist Alliance for a brighter future for our beloved republic! Don't hesitate, comrades! A hundred votes won't become a hundred if no one votes for it!


    OOC: I was suppose to defect to the Centralists but since there's an alliance between the two, woohoo I'm still a Marxist!
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    In this tough times the republic needs internal peace and external expansion,
    i vote German Socialists
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    Vote for the COLLECTIVE ANARCHISTS

    Comrades, the most important thing in this election is to prevent the dictatorial Marxists from retaining power and consolidating their program of repression. I urge everyone to vote for Freedom and against Tyranny. Many people in my own preferred faction seem extreme, but this is merely reaction against the diabolical nature of Blanqui and his stooges. If the rest of the People's Party can work together peacefully, we can have the true People's land in almost no time at all. Vote for anyone but the Marxists!

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    I wish the moderates could offer a united platform. What I care most about is voting against civil war. For now, that means I'm voting for the german socialists, as they have a strong position in the polls so far. I might switch however if it looks like my vote would be better given to the united cooperationists.
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    The Collectivist Anarchists


    For freedom!

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    United Cooperationists/ Cooperationists

    Why have I seen that some are voting against our party on basis that we do not wish war with Prussia, when the fact is that we do, if intervention is not risked with a Great Power as well?

    The strong front of our party supports what the Anarchists faction want, a Free Press. A free press, started by the workers of our nation will create a forum of opinions to share with themselves. To concentrate all influence in the hands of the state is placing the power of information into the hands of a small amount of people. This means a concentration of power. The argument for private newspapers would be that. To not place the power of information into the hands of too few people. A diversity of opinion is needed in our land, not just the one voiced by the state itself.

    A vote for the Marxist-Centralists Alliance will surely incite the Anarchist faction to creating a Civil War, a vote for the Anarchists will incite the Marxist-Centralists, while a vote for the Socialists will only prolong the civil war for a brief moment, as their policies do not even touch the important subject manner of the press.

    A vote for the United Cooperationists is a vote for the ending of the brewing conflict in our lands. A vote for our party is a vote for peace
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    Hmmh...things are coming up to a head now...the Anarchists who have been reading the Zeal have been whipped into a frenzy, and the Marxists and Centralists are steadfast against it. The German Socialists and the United Cooperationists already have a few votes...

    I suppose a Reformed Socialist has no choice but to wait and see how things play out.
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    ...Kadon - you may have seen him in the story, he's a strait laced radical Anarchist and all round man's man

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    The Anarchist Zeal


    January 2nd, 1865

    A final appeal to the statists, charlatans, warmongers, corrupt & the rest of the glorious Marx-Blanqui Empire


    Brothers & comrades of the Workers' Republic,

    I write to you to assure you all that, though I am locked away in a prison, I am still a free man. I am free because I know the people of the VSVR desire peace and liberty. The walls surrounding me are made of inescapable brick and concrete, but outside of them are men who yearn to be free of oppression. Anarchists, Marxists and Socialists now all stand together, defiant in the face of Blanquist attacks on the people.

    In the wake of the AKVD massacres of protestors, there has been much lively debate. There have been many accusations leveled against myself and the Young Anarchists, we are claimed to be:

    WARMONGERS!


    We are pacifists. We want an end to organized war, though revolution is necessary, occasionally. We want the end to the state using war for its own interests.

    COLLABORATORS!


    I do not even know how to address the accusations that we are colluding with the kings of Europe. This is absurd. We would not even dream of making such accusations against an evil such as Blanqui.

    WEAKENING THE REPUBLIC!


    Garnering the image of a militaristic empire is weakening the Republic. All of our European neighbors now look to our socialist experiment as an enemy to all nations. How long will the slavemasters of France tolerate our expansion? And Austria? Russia? The British? The Anarchists are bent on destroying the Republic? Does a pacifist state strike fear into the kings of Europe like an emerging empire would?

    We are weakening the Republic because we have requested a free press? We are weakening the Republic because we demand the end to needless wars? We are weakening the Republic because we no longer want to rule over the conquered? Are these the sort of actions that weaken republics?

    INSTIGATING A CIVIL WAR!


    We are not instigating a civil war. We have no desire to wrestle this monster of a state from some other faction. If anything, we advocate a revolution like we did almost 20 years ago. We all fought together on the same battlefields, we founded this republic together; did you not expect us to continue to seek the goals of that revolution? Did you think all of the Anarchists would accept Marxist tyranny in place of aristocratic or bourgeois tyranny?

    We instigated a civil war yet you joined with us to form this government and made war against our wishes! You handed over a private army to the Minister of Intelligence, Comrade Blanqui! You cannot ignore the will of nearly half of your electorate! We called for peace time and time again -- yet Marx & Blanqui continued making war against our neighbors.

    Had our borders not been extended, the conflict of today would not have become this volatile. Our simple Rhineland Republic would be civilly debating the merits of a free press and other basic rights. This territorial expansion has led to a standing army rivaling the conservative empires surrounding us and now, I fear, we are one of them. Blanqui has a personal army, the AKVD, and is using it against us and our neighbors. 'ANARCHIST PROTESTORS SHOT IN THE STREET BY A PROFESSIONAL MILITARY FORCE' should be the headlines coming out of Berlin or Paris, not the VSVR.

    Alas, that is all we have been accused of. You may now find yourself asking, WHO ARE THE YOUNG ANARCHISTS? I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I hope to represent the thoughts and desires of the Young Anarchists. What do the Young Anarchists desire?

    We wish to:

    DISBAND a vast majority of our standing ARMY! ...calling upon militia when needed for defense.
    Pursue political reforms, most importantly a FREE PRESS!
    Give AUTONOMY TO THE OCCUPIED! ...Flanders, Wallonia and all who desire freedom.
    BRING BLANQUI TO JUSTICE FOR HIS CRIMES! ...against VSVR comrades & others.
    DISBAND THE AKVD! ...as it is the enemy of all we fought for.
    PARDON KARL MARX! ...for his transgressions as Chairman. The Young Anarchists do this not because of a love for Marx, but because we want to reach out to all Marxists, Socialists and Cooperationists and assure them that we want a peaceful end to this conflict.

    We are PACIFISTS, we wish to see an end to the wars of worker versus worker. This revolution was meant to be spread by sending arms abroad and supporting our brothers all over the world -- not by emulating our feudal neighbors in their manner of warfare. I ask you all, why is there so much worry of war in our own home Republic, but so few speak ill of the wars outside our borders? Every soldier, farmer, worker, father, son and brother that we have killed, their last thoughts were not: "I am honored to be murdered by my brother-workers rather than tyrants! Thank you, Lord Blanqui!" Our quaint little society was situated in the Rheinland merely a decade ago; we now extend from the Atlantic to the Elbe. Brothers, what have we become?

    Did we rise up in 1848 to serve warmongering dictators? Marx will step down, but surely there will be another just like him if we do not act. The Blanquists-Marxists are the most sinister option. The German Socialists seem inept and unelectable. The Cooperative Alliance ... what can I say about them, other than, what is a "moderate anarchist"? These are Marxists who tolerated the last 15 years of expansion who just now came to a real disagreement, and some anarchists who find this state tolerable.

    I ask you all, my brothers, cast your vote for the Collective Anarchists, they are the only faction that have consistently called for peace, for freedom, for egality, for liberty -- they have been the only real opposite to the Marxist & Centralist wars. Many will attempt to persuade you to vote for the Cooperatanists, but I assure you, that faction has only found the middle ground between the PROBLEM of the Marxists-Centralists and the SOLUTION, the Collective Anarchists.

    Do not take this request for votes to be a sign of fear or weakness. We are being prodded by the Blanquists and are preparing ourselves. Do you think we fear another revolution? We are Anarchists! I start a revolution before every morning's meal! To all my "moderate anarchist" brothers who waiver at this time, I offer you some words that are getting me through my imprisonment: Would you rather live a compromising slave, or die a free man? Come back from the brink, Cooperationists! Vote Collective Anarchist!

    Finally, a warning: Should the Blanquists win this election, I call upon the ALL of the Anarchists to prepare a defense; they will soon attack you all & lynch me. Should the Collective Anarchists win this election, I call on all of the Republic to prepare; the radicals will attempt to usurp our democracy. Blanqui, with his own personal military force, will never allow a Collective Anarchist victory.

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    Thank you to Kadon for the above article. Everything aside from the words ''The Anarchist Zeal'' and the date was written by him and I think we can all agree it was a fine piece. His posts were of course my inspiration for forming the Young Anarchists so I think its only fair that the man himself get a word in.

    ps Keep voting!!!

    Remeber the Young Anarchists are only a part of the Anarchist faction when you vote Anarchist your voting for what I posted in the election update, but you would get Kadon and his guys as a major force.

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    That toilet paper is nothing more but garbage and lies! Don't listen to them, comrades! They are liars, thieves, backstabbers, cheaters, webspinners, TRAITORS! You should remember why "comrade" Kadon was imprison in the first place! He tried to murder not just one but three honourable revolutionaries! He may be, once, an honest revolutionary as a member of the People's Party but he smeared that honour with his hideous act! Don't let these puny words blind you from the truth! Obviously, the Young Anarchists are also the same low lives who murdured Proudhon! Yes, comrades! He didn't share his views with them and, like liars and backstabbers they are, they killed him in cold blood and in broad daylight! Who would have done such a thing other than those wreched Young Anarchist who got a history about Eccarius's death?!

    Comrades, would you let justice slips from your hands by letting the Anarchists get away with murder!? Hah! Say that to Eccarius and Proudhon's graves!

    Death to the Anarchists! Vote for Marxist-Centralist Alliance for not just a brighter VSVR, but for a safer VSVR! Free from the evils of the Collectivist Anarchists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzzz... View Post
    That toilet paper is nothing more but garbage and lies! Don't listen to them, comrades! They are liars, thieves, backstabbers, cheaters, webspinners, TRAITORS! You should remember why "comrade" Kadon and was imprison in the first place! He tried to murder not just one but three honourable revolutionaries! Don't let these puny words blind you from the truth! Obviously, the Young Anarchists are also the same low lives who murdured Proudhon! Yes, comrades! He didn't share his views with them and, like liars and backstabbers they are, they killed him in cold blood and in broad daylight! Who would have done such a thing other than those wreched Young Anarchist who got a history about Eccarius's death?!

    Comrades, would you let justice slips from your hands by letting the Anarchists get away with murder!? Hah! Say that to Eccarius and Proudhon's graves!

    Death to the Anarchists! Vote for Marxist-Centralist Alliance for not just a brighter VSVR, but for a safer VSVR! Free from the evils of the Collectivist Anarchists!
    It's little propaganda-filled lies like these that make you Marxists so despicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek75 View Post
    It's little lies filled with propaganda like these that make you Marxists so despicable.
    My duty is to protect the revolution and keep it running. The Anarchists stands in the way and they have to be eliminated as they are against the revolution! Why are you angry, comrade? Is it because the Marxists have done better than the German Socialists? oh ho ho ho ho ho!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzzz... View Post
    My duty is to protect the revolution and keep it running. The Anarchists stands in the way and they have to be eliminated as they are against the revolution! Why are you angry, comrade? Is it because the Marxists have done better than the German Socialists? oh ho ho ho ho ho!
    All that the Marxists stand for is AGAINST the revolution! Complete state control of everything? That's not what our revolution was about! The revolution was about rejecting the ultimate power of the bourgeouis monarchs that ruled over us! It was about the PEOPLE ruling over THEMSELVES! Not the state, NEVER the state! The workers in our nation have been fine so far, but what happens when you elect a greedy bourgeouis bloodhound? What happens when he curbs the workers' benefits, cuts their pay, and forces them to work all day and night with the chance of DYING because of the laziness of the state and, therefore, the lack of safety regulations?
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    I almost totally concur with the great comrade Kadon, I just call for the public execution of Blanqui and Marx. Also a full investigation into the so called "United Cooperationists", I smell Marx all in that garbage. Viva Anarchisme! Vote for liberty comrades! Vote for the Anarchists

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    I do not like the Anarchists are presented here.
    Anarchy is the aim, and socialism is the way to achieve it.

    Anarchy means freedom, tolerance and equality.
    There shall be no oppression in the end, no wars nor organized discrimination.
    Only total freedom.

    To achieve that, to bring everyone freedom, there has to be a Klassenkampf, the old structures must be torn down, even if with force of arms.

    A warmachine is required to destroy the other warmachines.
    A war has to be fought, a war that shall end all the wars.

    What is this collaboration you speak of? Our aim is to bring freedom from state, and in order to achieve that we must sometimes ally with the devil to kill an other devil. But in the end we will be the sole survivors that shall reign and reshape the world.

    Res publica, our public matter. In the end, there will be none, but for now we must use it as a weapon to bring down tyrants.
    It must grant us our freedom, or how else can we call it ours?
    For now, military is a way to preserve our republic, which we need in our Endkampf.

    And as to winds of civil war, sometimes you have to burn an contaminated tree to save the other trees of the orchard.
    Kill the rats and stop the plague from spreading.

    Socialism is a way, it seeks social equality and by being successful undoes itself.
    Anarchism follows afterwards, for we all seek liberty.
    And by reshaping the world and reforming the society and mankind, we shall be victorious.

    And free.

    Through any means necessary.

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    I reluctantly place my vote for The German Socialists. It pains me to do so, as I have voted Marxist in all the previous election. However I simply cannot vote for any party that will lead our glourious republic down the path of strife and civil war. The Revoultion must be maintained, but we must also respect each other, otherwise all our comrades have fought and died for will have been in vain.
    Nationality: Danish
    Ideology: Communist
    Primary/Secondary Issues: Full Citizenship/Planned Economy
    Militancy: 6 (0.01)
    Consciousness: 7(-0.03)

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