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    Vassal benefits to their overlord

    Something I have wanted since EU3 was released (which EU2 had) was for vassals to contribute militarily to their overlord even if they were not actively allied (or just not involved in the current war) similar to what the HRE Emperor gets from member states. In later patches of EU2 the overlord could get manpower for each vassal they had. Not sure if any mods currently do anything like this but I recently realized that with the 'overlord' scope introduced Napoleon's Ambition and the 'variable' effects and trigger added in In Nomine this was actually possible. Here's what I've done so far; it seems to be working correctly in my limited testing.
    Two events to activate and deactivate the bonus:
    Code:
    country_event = {
    	id = 102130
    	
    	title = "EVTNAME102130"
    	desc = "EVTDESC102130"
    	
    	trigger = {
    		overlord = { war = yes }
    		war = no
    		NOT = { has_country_flag = supporting_overlord }
    	}
    	
    	mean_time_to_happen = {
    		days = 10
    	}
    	
    	option = {
    		name = "OK"
    		set_country_flag = supporting_overlord
    		overlord = {
    			change_variable = {
    				which = vassal_supporters
    				value = 1
    			}
    		}
    	}
    }
    country_event = {
    	id = 102131
    	
    	title = "EVTNAME102131"
    	desc = "EVTDESC102131"
    	
    	trigger = {
    		war = no
    		check_variable = {
    			which = "vassal_supporters"
    			value = 1
    		}
    	}
    	
    	mean_time_to_happen = {
    		days = 10
    	}
    	
    	option = {
    		name = "OK"
    		set_variable = {
    			which = vassal_supporters
    			value = 0
    		}
    		any_country = {
    			limit = {
    				OR = {
    					vassal_of = THIS
    					junior_union_with = THIS
    				}
    				has_country_flag = supporting_overlord
    			}
    			clr_country_flag = supporting_overlord
    		}
    	}
    }
    Localisation:
    Code:
    EVTNAME102130;Vassal Support for Our Overlord;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    EVTDESC102130;Our overlord has requested our support in their current war.;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    EVTNAME102131;Vassal Support Ends;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    EVTDESC102131;With the war over our vassals have ended their military support.;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Triggered_modifiers.txt:
    Code:
    vassal_support1 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = {
    			which = "vassal_supporters"
    			value = 1
    		}
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 1  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 1
    }
    vassal_support2 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = {
    			which = "vassal_supporters"
    			value = 2
    		}
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 1  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 1
    }
    and more modifiers for each number of vassals contributing. I plan to change these so that only only one modifier will be active at a time to reduce clutter. (I don't usually bother doing localisation for modifiers if the name is self-descriptive.)

    This setup gives the bonuses only if the overlord is at war and only when the vassal is not so it doesn't support a larger permanent army like the HRE gets and doesn't give you an extra bonus when you already have the indirect use of the vassal's whole army.

    Several interesting variations can be done on this:
    It could be a decision for the overlord instead of automatic.
    It could cause a relations drop with the vassals being forced to contribute.
    The contribution could be made optional by the vassal with some consequences if they refuse.
    It could give the overlord actual units instead of just a manpower bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdrou View Post
    Something I have wanted since EU3 was released (which EU2 had) was for vassals to contribute militarily to their overlord even if they were not actively allied (or just not involved in the current war) similar to what the HRE Emperor gets from member states. In later patches of EU2 the overlord could get manpower for each vassal they had. Not sure if any mods currently do anything like this but I recently realized that with the 'overlord' scope introduced Napoleon's Ambition and the 'variable' effects and trigger added in In Nomine this was actually possible. Here's what I've done so far; it seems to be working correctly in my limited testing.
    Two events to activate and deactivate the bonus:
    Code:
    country_event = {
    	id = 102130
    	
    	title = "EVTNAME102130"
    	desc = "EVTDESC102130"
    	
    	trigger = {
    		overlord = { war = yes }
    		war = no
    		NOT = { has_country_flag = supporting_overlord }
    	}
    	
    	mean_time_to_happen = {
    		days = 10
    	}
    	
    	option = {
    		name = "OK"
    		set_country_flag = supporting_overlord
    		overlord = {
    			change_variable = {
    				which = vassal_supporters
    				value = 1
    			}
    		}
    	}
    }
    country_event = {
    	id = 102131
    	
    	title = "EVTNAME102131"
    	desc = "EVTDESC102131"
    	
    	trigger = {
    		war = no
    		check_variable = {
    			which = "vassal_supporters"
    			value = 1
    		}
    	}
    	
    	mean_time_to_happen = {
    		days = 10
    	}
    	
    	option = {
    		name = "OK"
    		set_variable = {
    			which = vassal_supporters
    			value = 0
    		}
    		any_country = {
    			limit = {
    				vassal_of = THIS
    				has_country_flag = supporting_overlord
    			}
    			clr_country_flag = supporting_overlord
    		}
    	}
    }
    Localisation:
    Code:
    EVTNAME102130;Vassal Support for Our Overlord;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    EVTDESC102130;Our overlord has requested our support in their current war.;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    EVTNAME102131;Vassal Support Ends;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    EVTDESC102131;With the war over our vassals have ended their military support.;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Triggered_modifiers.txt:
    Code:
    vassal_support1 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = {
    			which = "vassal_supporters"
    			value = 1
    		}
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 1  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 1
    }
    vassal_support2 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = {
    			which = "vassal_supporters"
    			value = 2
    		}
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 1  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 1
    }
    and more modifiers for each number of vassals contributing. I plan to change these so that only only one modifier will be active at a time to reduce clutter. (I don't usually bother doing localisation for modifiers if the name is self-descriptive.)

    This setup gives the bonuses only if the overlord is at war and only when the vassal is not so it doesn't support a larger permanent army like the HRE gets and doesn't give you an extra bonus when you already have the indirect use of the vassal's whole army.

    Several interesting variations can be done on this:
    It could be a decision for the overlord instead of automatic.
    It could cause a relations drop with the vassals being forced to contribute.
    The contribution could be made optional by the vassal with some consequences if they refuse.
    It could give the overlord actual units instead of just a manpower bonus.
    Hey, this seems great. It would be an honour, if I may use it in my mod .

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    Absolutely. Any mods are free to use this.
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    Actually, vanilla could use some more events between vassals and their suzerain. Right now the relationships seem to stagnate. I might incorporate some flavor events like this into my personal mod too.
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    Updated versions of triggered modifiers:
    Code:
    vassal_support1 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = { which = "vassal_supporters" value = 1 }
    		NOT = { check_variable = { which = "vassal_supporters" value = 2 } }
    		}
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 1  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 1
    }
    vassal_support2 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = { which = "vassal_supporters" value = 2 }
    		NOT = { check_variable = { which = "vassal_supporters" value = 3 } }
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 2  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 2
    }
    #. . .
    vassal_support10 = {
    	trigger = {
    		check_variable = { which = "vassal_supporters" value = 10 }
    	}
    	land_forcelimit = 10  # applied before % modifiers
    	global_manpower = 10
    }
    I have left the effect capped at 10 vassals so far.
    Note that this will also inadvertantly include junior partners of personal unions the first time around and then never again since the flag doesn't get cleared for them; I'll probably leave the effect in and just fix the flag-clearing.
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    Great job! Never thought about this before.. Thanks! this gives me some good ideas
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    Updated code in first post to clear flag in personal union junior partners.
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    Well, well... this is just in the scope of my 20 000 blue coins contest

    It's a really nice feature, i could include in MEIOU if you accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigau View Post
    It's a really nice feature, i could include in MEIOU if you accept.
    Certainly; anyone is free to use it. Don't overlook the suggestions I made for variations; given the basic framework most of those are very easy to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigau View Post
    Well, well... this is just in the scope of my 20 000 blue coins contest
    I had completely forgotten about that. Maybe I'll package the files up with localisation for the triggered modifiers and some of the optonal variations added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdrou View Post
    I had completely forgotten about that. [...]
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    Sorry. I only created this now because I suddenly realised it was possible. Kind of embarrassing considering how much time I've spent looking at the triggers/scopes/effects on the wiki.
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    I want to add this, but i dont where to put what

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    Packaged as a mod and attached to first post. Extract to the game's mod folder and select in the launcher.
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    I was doing something similar for my mod, I'll include this one instead and modify it a bit, if that's okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuore View Post
    I was doing something similar for my mod, I'll include this one instead and modify it a bit, if that's okay.
    Sure, go ahead.
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    Uploaded new version compatible with Divine Wind (latest beta patches). Differences are no forcelimit effect since DW includes that already and the manpower boost will be triggered by horde wars as well as normal wars.
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    Just found another issue with the logic: if a country receiving benefits from a vassal or union partner loses that vassal or union partner he will continue receiving the benefits until the war ends. Not sure yet if there's a way to fix that. Also the former vassal/junior will continue to have the support flag which could cause problems later but that's easy to fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdrou View Post
    Just found another issue with the logic: if a country receiving benefits from a vassal or union partner loses that vassal or union partner he will continue receiving the benefits until the war ends. Not sure yet if there's a way to fix that.
    whats about with a triggered_modifier which has the "is_subject=yes" trigger inside for make the benefits work. only an idea...
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