Strange Screenshots
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Happens when Russia and Italy beat up a recently Westernized China.
Meh, a GP Brazil isn't strange at all. It happens quite often if you mess around in large great wars in Europe, as those typically lead to the collapse of various nations like Austria, Russia, Spain, etc, as well as keep other contenders like The Netherlands, Belgium, etc, down. Heck, it's very much possible, and really not that hard, to kick France, UK and Prussia out of GP status too but that would indeed be strange as you'll need to seriously build up some outsiders. Sounds fun to do actually, might go for it myself. Brazil is actually a solid nation to play with such a goal in mind. The end goal will be Brazil(me) at #1 obviously, which isn't that hard to do, than USA at #2(targeting the Europeans here not the US), China at #3(they will eventually Westernize and their massive pop will inevitably lead here if I drop the usual candidates out) and Japan at #4(they usually make it to rank 5 or 6 on their own with minimal player intervention so 1 more step is only natural). These will all come naturally once I start dropping the UK, France and Prussia/NGF/Germany in the rankings, the rest I'll actually have to work for, as in cultivate. There are many possibilities here. I've seen both Australia and Canada make it to GP status after forcing the UK to spit them out. If an Indian minor manages to unite India(thus have it Westernized as opposed to uncivilized if spat out of the UK) than it too would be an obvious GP. That leaves another country, which could be a European minor like Switzerland, Sweden or even something like Scotland or Ireland once the UK is broken, but if we want to go for a European free top 8 than it will require some extra work. A Westernized Egypt/Persia is probably the easiest for the player to help reach GP status, but only if they manage to Westernize and do it soon enough, preferably around the turn of the century, so there's still time for them to build up some industry and prestige to rise up in the ranks. If not than perhaps assisting Mexico retake their lands from the USA(who will stay a GP regardless).
Now that would truly be a strange screenshot, 8 GPs none of which are in Europe.
I thought we were only supposed to have one GP ally.
Well, to be fair, Britain not too much later after dumped me and then got in a great war against me over the liberation of Bulgaria.
Only before great wars are discovered in 1890 (think that's the year at least). After that , they can ally as many they want.
Italy conquered the Papal States but fought France in what I guess was a separate war. France beat them soundly and forced them to release the Papal States. However, the new Papal States are a Presidential Dictatorship that doesn't have Rome....
France also forced them to release Sardinia-Piedmont, which only amounted to the island of Sardinia (and also became a Presidential Dictatorship)
France is also a Presidential Dictatorship with a Legitimiste ruling party
France also forced them to release Sardinia-Piedmont, which only amounted to the island of Sardinia (and also became a Presidential Dictatorship)
France is also a Presidential Dictatorship with a Legitimiste ruling party
That would be whyFrance is also a Presidential Dictatorship with a Legitimiste ruling party
Italy conquered the Papal States but fought France in what I guess was a separate war. France beat them soundly and forced them to release the Papal States. However, the new Papal States are a Presidential Dictatorship that doesn't have Rome....
France also forced them to release Sardinia-Piedmont, which only amounted to the island of Sardinia (and also became a Presidential Dictatorship)
France is also a Presidential Dictatorship with a Legitimiste ruling party
The Presidential Dictatorships are due to France, a country can only lose its capital when annexed hence Rome, I'm guessing France just enforced a 'Free People' not 'Liberate Country'- Sardinia is actually a good choice for this as it takes away Italy's gold crutch (vital if you're playing them in vanilla).
I'm actually most surprised the Italy formed in vanilla- and then to compound that ended up at war with France. The Redshirts are pretty... lackluster in vanilla, and Cavour's Diplomacy usually makes S-P and France best buds forever. Although France normally spheres the Pope, so that could explain the war.
Yes, I realized it was because France was a presidential dictatorship but I thought it was hilarious to see a presidential dictatorship Papal states, a Sardinia-Piedmont without Sardinia, and a Republican France where Legitimists are the ruling party.
I used the 1861 start, which is why Italy was united.
I used the 1861 start, which is why Italy was united.
Depending on your point of view, the Papal States is a presidential dictatorship
do you play as india ?Probably the bravest trio I've ever seen.
Well in that shot yes he is by the looks of it. Are you wondering how to become India?
Is that a mod? Because he is only in 1883, and while I'm a relative noob I don't think I could possibly reach 99% literacy, as well as those industrial levels, etc. in only 1883.
Nah, it's just outright cheating. You can't get to 60RP by that point in the game unless you have every +RP tech. Probably either remove the tech date restrictions or just gave themselves a load of tech. Not the point of the screenshot though. They also freed Jan Mayen themselves (presumably through console or tag switching, since Jan Mayen has no allies/ sphere overlord so wasn't freed with a CB).
Not that it matters in this context.
Ahhh i thought the strangness was the fact Jan Mayen even existed, not the fact there were three people fighting a war (I didn't see the text on my phone for some reason).
I'm kind of a complete noob at Vicky 2 and only had one game as US with some moderate cheating and didn't even get close to those numbers. My biggest struggle right now is raising military score, as both the US game and my current Brazil game where I've risen to GP due to really high prestige and decent Industry have included horrid military scores where my soldiers only seem to give a couple points to my score and I don't understand why.I think the US game at least had socialists to blame, whereas the Brazil game I have no idea.
I'm kind of a complete noob at Vicky 2 and only had one game as US with some moderate cheating and didn't even get close to those numbers. My biggest struggle right now is raising military score, as both the US game and my current Brazil game where I've risen to GP due to really high prestige and decent Industry have included horrid military scores where my soldiers only seem to give a couple points to my score and I don't understand why.I think the US game at least had socialists to blame, whereas the Brazil game I have no idea.
Technically it is 12 people because the 3 is supposed to be the adult male pop
In the zombie mod there are often provinces that have 1 person listed
In the zombie mod there are often provinces that have 1 person listed
Technically it is 12 people because the 3 is supposed to be the adult male pop
In the zombie mod there are often provinces that have 1 person listed
In the zombie mod I've often seen provinces with 'noculture' because literally everyone has died. And then you get free provinces of your culture when you colonize, such a wonderful after-apocalypse
Yeah for starters Anti-Mil and Pacifism make military score a real struggle. It may *seem* counter-intuitive, but the best way for you to raise your military score is to build capital ships- Man-o-wars (not recommended, clippers are expensive), Ironclad (best for colonial points), Dreadnoughts (best in vanilla for mil score (20 points each iirc)). Early game, that is prior to machine guns, soldiers are pitiful for raising military score- even leaders are better.
If you want to see *why* a country has better mil score, open their diplomatic view and hover over the military score. You'll often find it ends up being mostly ships apart from Germany, Russia & China.
But yeah, spam out those capital ships. Just make sure you don't wreck your economy, they can get very expensive. And make sure your mil techs are up to date, some massively improve your score.
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Mil score is based off of supply consumption, so the more supplies it uses the higher your mil score if I am not mistaken. Many mil techs increase supply consumption as well as increasing the stats of the various units. So a tech 1 infantry brigade, will use less supplies and contribute less than a tech 3 one. Some techs actually lower supply consumption, this is not really a bad thing as it helps with the budget, those things can be expensive! Those techs also tend to be near the end of the tree.