Victoria 2 demo support: download links and all discovered solutions in first post!

jdrou · Aug 14, 2010

David Comnenus said:
Ok, I think I found the appropriate stuff...turns out I was using the driver from back in November (when I first got the system). Hopefully this works, though while I'm crossing my fingers I'm also trying to come up with a plan B that doesn't involve things like water-cooling and the like.

I'm guessing you have a Thinkpad T500. Laptops are very prone to overheating with EU3-engine games. If the driver update doesn't help you need to monitor you temperatures; either the generic SpeedFan or the Thinkpad-specfic TPFanControl.

Kallocain · Aug 14, 2010

David Comnenus said:
I do hate to beg (and I will readily confess to begging), but my problem is odd enough that I want to make sure it's not going to crop back up in the main game before I fire that up. The last thing I want is to get a game crash again and lose my computer for the evening.

Overheating seems very likely. You can use a program to find out what the temperature is, or just open the side and clear out dust. Then let the side be off and try again.

There is no other way to be sure than to test things I'm afraid.

Edit: Oh, a laptop.. Forget about opening the sides and clear out dust then I guess. http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.aspx?sku=pa241u maybe?

badger_ken · Aug 14, 2010

demo crash ==> release crash?

I'm one of those for whom the demo doesn't work (see my earlier post) - is there anyone out there who
a) couldn't get the demo to work, but for whom
b) the purchased version DOES work?

I'd like to buy it, but not if it'll just crash like the demo does.

jdrou · Aug 14, 2010

badger_ken said:
I'm one of those for whom the demo doesn't work (see my earlier post) - is there anyone out there who
a) couldn't get the demo to work, but for whom
b) the purchased version DOES work?

I'd like to buy it, but not if it'll just crash like the demo does.

Release version is unlikely to run if the demo doesn't. The demo should work though. Your graphics is on the low end (GMA 4500) but should at least load the game. You may be having an issue because you seem to be using HDMI output which I think some people have had problems with in previous games. Can you post the demo's logs\system.log file?

badger_ken · Aug 14, 2010

jdrou said:
Release version is unlikely to run if the demo doesn't. The demo should work though. Your graphics is on the low end (GMA 4500) but should at least load the game. You may be having an issue because you seem to be using HDMI output which I think some people have had problems with in previous games. Can you post the demo's logs\system.log file?

certainly, ty for any help:

Code:

[systemsettings.cpp:158]: System memory:   4064MB
[systemsettings.cpp:160]: CPU speed:       2926MHz
[systemsettings.cpp:167]: Number of processors: 2
[systemsettings.cpp:180]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:212]: OS: Unknown     Build: 7600
[graphicssettings.cpp:130]: Graphic Adapters: 
[graphicssettings.cpp:135]: 	0: Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
[graphicssettings.cpp:152]: Checking for multi-sampling support:
[graphicssettings.cpp:178]: Using Adapter [0]:
[graphicssettings.cpp:184]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[graphicssettings.cpp:226]: Graphics device: Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
[graphicssettings.cpp:227]: Graphics driver: igdumdx32.dll
[graphicssettings.cpp:232]:  Driver version: 1840
[graphicssettings.cpp:249]: 


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier:	{D7B78E66-6D62-11CF-A874-3324A3C2C535}
VendorId:	32902
DeviceId:	11810
SubSysId:	70848552
Revision:	3
DriverVersion.HighPart:	524303
DriverVersion.LowPart:	657200


[graphicssettings.cpp:299]: Instancing supported.
[graphicssettings.cpp:317]: Video memory amount: 67MB
[graphicssettings.cpp:320]: Support for T&L found.
[graphicssettings.cpp:323]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:324]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[graphicssettings.cpp:325]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:327]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:328]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:329]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[graphicssettings.cpp:332]: 	Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[graphicssettings.cpp:333]: 	Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[graphicssettings.cpp:337]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[graphicssettings.cpp:342]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[main.cpp:223]: HoI3 Version Aug  6 2010 : 16:00:12
[main.cpp:285]: Collecting files (GAME_REPLACE)
[main.cpp:309]: Blobing files
[main.cpp:330]: Init Text Database
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1231]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1233]: Create text database
[main.cpp:332]: Text Database Done
[main.cpp:360]: Creating application...
[main.cpp:420]: Init Application...
[eu3application.cpp:220]: Initialise Defines
[eu3application.cpp:227]: App Init
[eu3application.cpp:242]: App Init
[eu3application.cpp:268]: Cursors Defines
[eu3application.cpp:296]: Sound...
[dxmusic.cpp:39]: Init Music
[dxmusic.cpp:45]: Graph done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:51]: Control done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:57]: Seeking done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:62]: Event done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:67]: Music done 0
[DirectSound.cpp:36]: Init DirectSound
[DirectSound.cpp:54]: Sound initialised with result 0
[DirectSound.cpp:64]: Coop Level Set. Result: 0
[DirectSound.cpp:86]: Sound Init Done
[eu3application.cpp:345]: Initialise Graphics...
[graphics.cpp:145]: Direct3D Created
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1024 768 70
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1024 768 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1152 864 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1152 864 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 768 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 800 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 800 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 960 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 1024 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 1024 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1366 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1400 1050 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1440 900 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1600 900 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1600 1200 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1680 1050 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1920 1080 50
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1920 1080 60
[graphics.cpp:240]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:260]: Creating device with: D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
	Fullscreen=no
	Resolution=1024x768
[graphics.cpp:340]: Done creating device.
[eu3application.cpp:347]: Graphics Done
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Map-Sprites...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading GUI Definitions...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Databases...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Initialising Maplogic...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Databases II...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading History Files...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Events...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Sounds...

Shirkon · Aug 14, 2010

CTD using a fleet

I attempted to send a fleet to the Pacific around Cape Horn and as the ships began to enter the Pacific there was a CTD. I've tested it twice more and both times the demo crashes at the same point. I was able to take Washington before the British could and made a port there and wanted to station some ships there to explore the Pacific.

jdrou · Aug 14, 2010

badger_ken said:
[graphicssettings.cpp:317]: Video memory amount: 67MB

Thought this was a problem at first but I don't think it really is; just a result of Intel's dynamic allocation of graphics memory. I see the same thing with my GMA HD under Windows 7 and it works fine. DXDIAG shows the correct amount of shared memory available.

Might see if you can install a newer graphics driver direct from Intel. The current build is 2182 just released a week ago.

badger_ken · Aug 14, 2010

that did it!

jdrou said:
Thought this was a problem at first but I don't think it really is; just a result of Intel's dynamic allocation of graphics memory. I see the same thing with my GMA HD under Windows 7 and it works fine. DXDIAG shows the correct amount of shared memory available.

Might see if you can install a newer graphics driver direct from Intel. The current build is 2182 just released a week ago.

Thanks for your help! I got the latest driver (from Dell, not Intel), and now I am at least into the tutorial!

Cat Lord · Aug 14, 2010

Grouchy said:
Getting a CTD twice now while playing the tutorial (chapter2: after loading the 3e division and trying the Middelburg landing)

I don't see any error logs....?

Got the same.

b3rnob3tri said:
The problem is that you unload from a moving ship if you follow the exact description in the tutorial. If you don't move the ship to the Coast of Holland but only to the Dogger Bank, then it works.

Will try that.

Cat

RDG · Aug 14, 2010

I solved my fps problem with updating the audio driver.

First problem remaining is the remarkably deviation of the mouse pointer and the actual pointing.

Also the map doesnt scroll southwards when I am pointing at the very bottom of the screen. Scrolling the map with arrow keys lasts way too long.

Foxbyte · Aug 15, 2010

I did a brief search of the thread and didn't find anything related. I'm playing the demo, and when the UK declares war on someone the game suddenly goes from smooth as silk on the highest setting down to chopping and about 10 frames a second on the lowest speed.

Is it path-finding causing this, or are there units on the world moving and canceling their orders over and over or what?

Holloway0 · Aug 15, 2010

I'm having the black screen switching problem as well. Also as mentioned the sounds stop playing after a while.
Running win 7 64, ATI 4870, latest drivers, it's not in program files
Thank You

littlekubo · Aug 16, 2010

I managed to update driver for my ATI IGP Xpress 1150, but game still CTD on screen with cruiser Aurora during loading graphics...
//and this error message, again:

Code:

Error
" CreateVertexDeclaration failed! (WavesVertexDecl) "

Soundwave · Aug 16, 2010

littlekubo said:
I managed to update driver for my ATI IGP Xpress 1150, but game still CTD on screen with cruiser Aurora during loading graphics...
//and this error message, again:

Code:

Error " CreateVertexDeclaration failed! (WavesVertexDecl) "

I have the same problem. I have a ATI X600 radeon.

I have no idea to solve it

littlekubo · Aug 16, 2010

what is date of your driver? or just in Paradox forgot for us, players on older laptops?

Kallocain · Aug 16, 2010

littlekubo said:
Code:

Error " CreateVertexDeclaration failed! (WavesVertexDecl) "

We are working on this. So far you will get the same error in the full game though.

Soundwave · Aug 16, 2010

littlekubo said:
what is date of your driver? or just in Paradox forgot for us, players on older laptops?

I have no idea, 2005-2006 perhaps?

I have installed ATI catalyst control center and I think that I have updated my software but the problem still the same.

littlekubo · Aug 16, 2010

Soundwave said:
I have no idea, 2005-2006 perhaps?

I have installed ATI catalyst control center and I think that I have updated my software but the problem still the same.

Try this method: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/modtool.php and for drivers download exact drivers for your card from amd page...

Federkiel · Aug 16, 2010

Had a CTD when first playing the demo. It occured when trying for a SP game after completing the tutorials.
Restarted V2 and directly started a game - worked smoothly.

Kind of a memory leak in the demo/game?

Freed · Aug 16, 2010

Hi everyone!

I'm trying to play the tutorial but I get "v2demo has stopped responding" or the game freezes without any error message about every 15 minutes or so. The game is not playable for me that way. When I take a look at the system.log it strikes me that it says "System memory: 0MB" (I have 8GB RAM) and that It says "CPU type: x86" instead of 64bit.

HoI3 Semper Fi runs stable on my system. Any ideas?

Code:

[systemsettings.cpp:158]: System memory:   0MB
[systemsettings.cpp:160]: CPU speed:       3059MHz
[systemsettings.cpp:167]: Number of processors: 4
[systemsettings.cpp:180]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:212]: OS: Windows Vista Service Pack 2    Build: 6002
[graphicssettings.cpp:130]: Graphic Adapters: 
[graphicssettings.cpp:135]: 	0: ATI Radeon HD 4850 X2
[graphicssettings.cpp:135]: 	1: ATI Radeon HD 4850 X2
[graphicssettings.cpp:152]: Checking for multi-sampling support:
[graphicssettings.cpp:163]: 	2 samples supported.
[graphicssettings.cpp:163]: 	4 samples supported.
[graphicssettings.cpp:163]: 	8 samples supported.
[graphicssettings.cpp:178]: Using Adapter [0]:
[graphicssettings.cpp:184]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[graphicssettings.cpp:226]: Graphics device: ATI Radeon HD 4850 X2
[graphicssettings.cpp:227]: Graphics driver: aticfx32.dll
[graphicssettings.cpp:232]:  Driver version: 1036
[graphicssettings.cpp:249]: 


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier:	{D7B71EE2-D703-11CF-F770-7AC8BEC2C535}
VendorId:	4098
DeviceId:	37955
SubSysId:	-395307189
Revision:	0
DriverVersion.HighPart:	524305
DriverVersion.LowPart:	656396


[graphicssettings.cpp:299]: Instancing supported.
[graphicssettings.cpp:317]: Video memory amount: 2127MB
[graphicssettings.cpp:320]: Support for T&L found.
[graphicssettings.cpp:323]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:324]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[graphicssettings.cpp:325]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:327]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:328]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[graphicssettings.cpp:329]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[graphicssettings.cpp:332]: 	Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[graphicssettings.cpp:333]: 	Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[graphicssettings.cpp:337]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[graphicssettings.cpp:342]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[main.cpp:223]: HoI3 Version Aug  6 2010 : 16:00:12
[main.cpp:285]: Collecting files (GAME_REPLACE)
[main.cpp:309]: Blobing files
[main.cpp:330]: Init Text Database
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1231]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1233]: Create text database
[main.cpp:332]: Text Database Done
[main.cpp:360]: Creating application...
[main.cpp:420]: Init Application...
[eu3application.cpp:220]: Initialise Defines
[eu3application.cpp:227]: App Init
[eu3application.cpp:242]: App Init
[eu3application.cpp:268]: Cursors Defines
[eu3application.cpp:296]: Sound...
[dxmusic.cpp:39]: Init Music
[dxmusic.cpp:45]: Graph done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:51]: Control done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:57]: Seeking done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:62]: Event done 0
[dxmusic.cpp:67]: Music done 0
[DirectSound.cpp:36]: Init DirectSound
[DirectSound.cpp:54]: Sound initialised with result 0
[DirectSound.cpp:64]: Coop Level Set. Result: 0
[DirectSound.cpp:86]: Sound Init Done
[eu3application.cpp:345]: Initialise Graphics...
[graphics.cpp:145]: Direct3D Created
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1024 768 70
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1024 768 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1152 864 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1152 864 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 800 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 960 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 1024 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1280 1024 75
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1360 1024 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1400 1050 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1440 900 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:651]: Usable res: 1680 1050 60
[graphics.cpp:226]: Using multisampling: 4
[graphics.cpp:260]: Creating device with: D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
	Fullscreen=yes
	RefreshRate=60
	Resolution=1680x1050
[graphics.cpp:340]: Done creating device.
[graphics.cpp:427]: Hardware supports "shadowmapping", shadows enabled.
[eu3application.cpp:347]: Graphics Done
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Map-Sprites...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading GUI Definitions...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Databases...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Initialising Maplogic...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Databases II...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading History Files...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Events...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Sounds...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Flags...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating Checksum...
[main.cpp:426]: Run Application...
[frontend.cpp:426]: entering frontend...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Graphics...
[frontend.cpp:464]: entering frontend...init map
[eu3application.cpp:771]: initialise map
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating Province #
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating Borders...
[provincemanager.cpp:1605]: Creating province data
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating Texts....
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating Rivers...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating the World...
[provincemanager.cpp:1688]: Creating meshes
[provincemanager.cpp:1741]: vertex declarations done
[provincemanager.cpp:1831]: done quads
[provincemanager.cpp:1863]: border adjacencies done
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Creating Waves
[provincemanager.cpp:1909]: Create meshes done
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Map Properly Initialised...
[frontend.cpp:482]: eu3 idler restore
[frontend.cpp:493]: reloaded
[frontend.cpp:547]: done frontend
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Graphics...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Adapting History...
[graphics.cpp:3149]: Reset occurred.
[frontend.cpp:426]: entering frontend...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Graphics...
[frontend.cpp:464]: entering frontend...init map
[eu3application.cpp:771]: initialise map
[frontend.cpp:482]: eu3 idler restore
[frontend.cpp:493]: reloaded
[frontend.cpp:547]: done frontend
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Graphics...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Adapting History...
[frontend.cpp:426]: entering frontend...
[eu3graphics.cpp:241]: Load text  Loading Graphics...
[frontend.cpp:464]: entering frontend...init map
[eu3application.cpp:771]: initialise map
[frontend.cpp:482]: eu3 idler restore
[frontend.cpp:493]: reloaded
[frontend.cpp:547]: done frontend

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