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    SF: Real ship upgrades finally possible!!!

    Just by simple editing of common\unit_upgrades file you can now really rebuild ships to newer models!
    To test it I put there
    #Battleship
    upgrade =
    {
    base = battleship
    target = battleship
    }
    And after just one year (instead of two) and mere 4.39 IC a day (instead of 8.7)I got brand new type of battleship. With just 30% of starting XP of course, but new and functioning nontheless. Finally we don't have to scrape that old junk anymore
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    Yup. You can also change the time and cost for the type upgrades in defines:
    Code:
    	UNIT_UPGRADE_COST = 0.5,
    	UNIT_UPGRADE_TIME = 0.7
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    hehe, thats a fun side effect of the system.

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    Ok

    Quote Originally Posted by telesien View Post
    Just by simple editing of common\unit_upgrades file you can now really rebuild ships to newer models!
    To test it I put there

    And after just one year (instead of two) and mere 4.39 IC a day (instead of 8.7)I got brand new type of battleship. With just 30% of starting XP of course, but new and functioning nontheless. Finally we don't have to scrape that old junk anymore
    Thanks for the GREAT find, unfortunately not all of us are mod savvy nor have a clue how you did that.

    How do we do this for all ships? Is it something we can copy and paste?

    You said brand new type of battleship, I thought you upgraded an existing one?

    Basically, the game started me with a Level 1 Pride of the Fleet BB, but I want to upgrade it to my newer techs. Is there a way to do this? Does it have to be in port and re-enter the production queue?

    While this is great news, it's going to be confusing until some of us figure out how you did this.

    Any info would be much appreciated, this is just what I was looking for.

    Thank you!
    Last edited by Pharseer; 06-06-2010 at 19:42.

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    nice find

    @ Pharseer

    Let’s say you have a level 1 battleship. Just upgrade it to a battleship (like infantry to marines, but a battleship to another battleship).

    The old one is 'deleted', and a production of 1 battleship (that has all the upgrades you have researched so far) in the queue for a lower time to complete and at a reduced cost of just producing a new battleship.

    It is done for all the ships by renaming 'battleship' in the code you were given, to all the other names of the ships (in the units folder are all their real names). Just paste it all in the unit_upgrade file in the common folder

    In HOI3 original you couldn't upgrade ships with improved technology, but with this now you can (it just won’t be done automatically).

    EDIT:

    It was already possible in hoi3 vainilla to upgrade ships by editing units/shipyouwanttoupgrade.txt
    I guess you could....
    Last edited by vinc3nt23; 06-06-2010 at 19:49.

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    It was already possible in hoi3 vainilla to upgrade ships by editing units/shipyouwanttoupgrade.txt

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    Oh

    Quote Originally Posted by flecha224 View Post
    It was already possible in hoi3 vainilla to upgrade ships by editing units/shipyouwanttoupgrade.txt
    Not too worried about Vanilla HOI3, need assistance with the Semper Fi expansion please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharseer View Post
    Not too worried about Vanilla HOI3, need assistance with the Semper Fi expansion please.
    Open the file : common/unit_upgrades.txt

    Paste it (be careful paste it into the { } from unit upgrades !!!) :


    #Battleship
    upgrade =
    {
    base = battleship
    target = battleship
    }

    #escort_carrier
    upgrade =
    {
    base = escort_carrier
    target = escort_carrier
    }

    #light_cruiser
    upgrade =
    {
    base = light_cruiser
    target = light_cruiser
    }


    #heavy_cruiser
    upgrade =
    {
    base = heavy_cruiser
    target = heavy_cruiser
    }

    #submarine
    upgrade =
    {
    base = submarine
    target = submarine
    }

    #super_heavy_battleship
    upgrade =
    {
    base = super_heavy_battleship
    target = super_heavy_battleship
    }

    #battlecruiser
    upgrade =
    {
    base = battlecruiser
    target = battlecruiser
    }

    #carrier
    upgrade =
    {
    base = carrier
    target = carrier
    }

    #destroyer
    upgrade =
    {
    base = destroyer
    target = destroyer
    }

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    Aha

    Thank you Flecha, but then how do you upgrade an existing ship?

    If I have a BB1 how do I upgrade it to BB2 when it is on patrol duty in the Pacific?

    Bring it into a certain level port? Maybe a Level 10 can do this? Once in port, how would you get it to the production queue?

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    What would happen if you upgrade an SHBB

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    It'd just upgrade to your newest techs. e.g new guns + armoour etc.
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    Have the slick wizards changed something?

    I thought SHBB had no gun or armor techs

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    Oh

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshadows View Post
    Have the slick wizards changed something?

    I thought SHBB had no gun or armor techs
    I still have 2 years to go on my SHBB, but I don't notice any change on the production screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshadows View Post
    Have the slick wizards changed something?

    I thought SHBB had no gun or armor techs
    You're quite right, they don't. For some reason I thought the capital techs were BB + SHBB, but of course they're BB + BC (and CA)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharseer View Post
    I still have 2 years to go on my SHBB, but I don't notice any change on the production screen.
    It's only available with the extension "Semper Fi".

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    Does anyone know if unit upgrades, ships or otherwise, are effected by or give practical knowledge?
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    The SHBB will not upgrade, because is a single design, I just copied and pasted all the naval units, didn´t realize about the SHBB

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightGeneral View Post
    Does anyone know if unit upgrades, ships or otherwise, are effected by or give practical knowledge?
    Units upgrades or updates, infantry to mountain, or infantry1 to infantry2, are not supposed to give practicals

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    Quote Originally Posted by flecha224 View Post
    Units upgrades or updates, infantry to mountain, or infantry1 to infantry2, are not supposed to give practicals
    Do they stop practical decay? or is that a myth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flecha224 View Post
    It was already possible in hoi3 vainilla to upgrade ships by editing units/shipyouwanttoupgrade.txt
    Yes, but that allowed you to upgrade ship while you could still use it freely, right? This method is more "clean" since you have to dock it for quite some time
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    Quote Originally Posted by telesien View Post
    Yes, but that allowed you to upgrade ship while you could still use it freely, right? This method is more "clean" since you have to dock it for quite some time
    You are right, so this is why you say "Real"

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