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    Interesting update, I wonder how big the tensions are within National France in the present day, particularly with the Syndies on the border.

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    I like the idea of Ostafrika. What happened with Apartheid in this timeline?

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    So, syndicalism lost in Europe but survived in Africa... And America! Time for the Russ to export democracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow View Post
    I like the idea of Ostafrika. What happened with Apartheid in this timeline?
    No Apartheid in South Africa, because goverment forged an alliance with moderate African National Congress to counter Syndicalist radicals. African National Congress is Left-Wing movement, but it's main objective was non-racial democracy. South African goverment decided to share the power with ANC under condition that ANC cuts all ties with African Syndicalists. African Syndicalist Congress(ASC) which rules in Union of Africa, views South African ANC as traitors because of this. I'll write more about South Africa when I start with descriptions of specific nations.

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    So, syndicalism lost in Europe but survived in Africa... And America! Time for the Russ to export democracy?
    Well, yes in some way.

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    Brief history of Middle East, Caucasus and Central Asia

    Asia saw many changes since the Weltkrieg. In the Middle East, Ottoman Empire started to fall apart in 1940s due to constant Arab revolts and inefficient political system. In 1950s Ottomans finally lost all influence in their autonomous territories of Libya, Armenia and Albania. Libya became independent kingdom in 1951, in the same year Bulgaria supported by Vienna made Albania their protectorate and in early 1952 Ottomans had to accept another demand: Armenia was integrated into Persia, together with Azerbaijan. Persian demands had German blessing since Shah of Persia gave great concessions in Persian oil extraction industry to Germany. Germans saw great oportunity for safe pipeline route from Persia and Caucasus trough Don-Kuban Union and Ukraine into Europe. In the spring of 1952, Egypt declared liberation of all Arabs under Ottoman rule has begun and attacked Ottoman Empire. In coordination with Egypt, Ottoman Arabs started with massive revolts and badly damaged Ottoman ability to bring more reinforcements. Nejd which had conquered Oman two years ago, had also joined the war on Egyptian side, seizing coast of the Red Sea and advanced into Iraq. Germans used chaos in Middle East to expand into North Yemen that was cut from Ottoman Empire. In 1953 German mediation stopped the war, leaving war gains in Palestine and Jordan to Egypt, recognizing gains of Nejd in Arabian Peninsula, establishing independent state of Iraq and declaring North Yemen as German possession as a price for successful mediation. Germans also secured big oil concessions in Iraq, since creation of independent Iraq was German plan to expand domination over oil reserves in Middle East. But all Arab lands were not liberated as Ottomans preserved their control over Syria and Lebanon. Six months after peace treaty was signed, Ottoman Empire finally came to an end with military coup that established Federal Republic of Turkey.

    In Central Asia, Alash Orda was made part of the Russian Empire again in 1939, since Kazakh state asked for Russian protection against expansionist Turkestan. Russian conditions were harsh: Tsar can protect Alash Orda only if Kazakhs accept his historical rule in Central Asia. Since Kazakh rulers prefered Tsar's rule over radical theocratic system of Turkestan, they chosed Russian dominance as lesser of two evils. In next years, Russian Empire managed to neutralize Turkestani threat and anexed Turkestan after the short war. Altough being successful in Central Asia, Russians couldn't restore their power in Caucasus. Don-Kuban Union that was supported by Germany destroyed Syndicalist Georgia during the war in Europe. When Caucasian pipeline was finished in 1950s, Don-Kuban Union fell under total German dominance, even becoming new member of Mitteleuropa in 1960.

    Indian states survived era between Weltkrieg and 21st century in relative peace. Syndicalist Bengal managed to export Revolution into Bhutan and Nepal, integrating Bhutan directly into Bengal, while Nepalese Gurkhas accepted new Syndicalist regime when Bengal promised that Nepal will stay free nation. Delhi lost Jabalpur when the province revolted and declared People's Republic. Delhi was not ready for war and accepted Bengali anexation of Jabalpur. Similar story happened with province of Vijayawada which deserted from Bengal to Princenly Federation. Bengal didn't want to risk war with member of Mitteleuropa and left deserted province to rival nation. Princenly Federation bought Ceylon from Germans in 1939. Germans saw this offer as good oportunity to gain new ally in Asia. Princenly Federation joined Mitteleuropa and opened it's ports, airfields and military bases for German forces as act of new friendship. Bengal didn't stop to expand after this events. After successful missions in Bhutan and Nepal, convert actions in chaotic Burma born great fruits. Burmese Syndicalists led by Aung San and supported by big part of Burmese military came into power and declared new Socialist state. Burma was immediately taken undern Bengali protection and in 1941, two years after revolution in Burma, Burmese leadership agreed to enter union with Bengal and Burma was fully incorporated into Bengal. Burmese people quickly achieved high positions in Bengali politics, economy and military, with Aung San even becoming chairman of Bengali Supreme Concil.




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    It's great to see the world you're building, Germany seems to be more dominant now than they were back in 1936. It'll be interesting to see if anyone can actually stand up to them.

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    Mmh... Sorry if I sound dumb.. Is this scenario soemthing you created ? or is it a mod ?

    Anyway, even if you created a very sad story for my country, I forgive you because you are here to bring its greatness back

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    Nice Asian setting, lots of possible conflicts.
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    Looking forward to seeing how America looks. Who runs the CSA these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolai View Post
    Very interesting world you are setting up here.
    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhuge Liang View Post
    It's great to see the world you're building, Germany seems to be more dominant now than they were back in 1936. It'll be interesting to see if anyone can actually stand up to them.
    Well, situation isn't so good for Germans in East Asia. You'll see that in next update.

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    Mmh... Sorry if I sound dumb.. Is this scenario soemthing you created ? or is it a mod ?

    Anyway, even if you created a very sad story for my country, I forgive you because you are here to bring its greatness back

    And of course I'm following
    This is Modern Day Scenario Mod which I changed a bit to fit the story of Kaiserreich Mod, extended into 21th century.

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    Nice Asian setting, lots of possible conflicts.
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    India, the powder keg of Asia...
    Not only India and Asia, entire world is giant powder keg!

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    And Mongolia is still there? Owning the trans-siberian railway? Sure the far east will be interesting...
    Yes, East Asia is also quite messed.

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    Looking forward to seeing how America looks. Who runs the CSA these days?
    Updates on America are coming after Asia, and I can guarantee you that America will be much diffrent than in my previous KR-MDS AAR.

    I'm sorry, but I can't give you info about political leaders right now, this will come with my second set of updates on alliances and specific nations.

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    Those more specific updates will reveal alliances, aligned and neutral nations, their main political leaders, short history of those nations, their various specifics and short overview of their armed forces. After that, narrative part and active gameplay will start.

    I hope such plan doesen't bother you. Maybe part on specific updates seems boring to you, but I plan to continue this way and I'm sure specific part won't look boring at all.

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    I always liked your grand overview before plunging into the narrative. It saves the painful process of assuming your readers know x. With the MDS2/KR mod though it is IMO perfectly obvious that you need to fill us in first.
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    Brief history of East Asia

    East Asia was always very important for great powers and saw great changes since Weltkrieg until modern day. Japan was the only Entente power that came from Great War even stronger. Empire of Rising Sun saw chaos in Russia for great oportunity to seize important Far East port of Vladivostok. Japanese also didn't hesitate to take their chunk of Chinese cake during German intervention in China in 1920s. Two Japenese satellite states were established in those times: Transamur in Russian Far East and Fengtien Republic in Manchuria. While Transamur was led by Russian rogue admiral Aleksandr Kolchak, Fengtien Republic was administrated by local Manchurian warlords.

    Germans intervened in chaotic China and restored Qing Empire under Emperor Pu Yi which was deposed during republican revolution in 1911. But Chinese Emperor was ruling only small portion of historic imperial China. Manchuria was taken by Japan, Tibet was de facto independent nation, Sinkiang and Yunnan were ruled by local cliques, Mongolia was led by Baron Sternberg, crazy Russian aristocrat that declared himself new Khan of Mongolia and even managed to occupy part of Trans-Siberian railway. Due to weak administrative power of Qing Empire, Germans established special colonial corporation in Southern China and named it Allgemeine Ostasiatische Gesellschaft, or AlgOstAsien GmbH in shorter version. This corporate conglomerate which operated in area de iure still administrated by Qing Empire, changed Southern China into place crawled with German companies that exploited local cheap labour and tested radical production technics.

    When 2nd American Civil War started in 1937 after American President Huey Long was thrown out from office by military, Hawaii proclaimed independence and even brought most of American Pacific islands under their rule. But fortune quickly turned bad for King of Hawaii when Empire of Rising Sun, encouraged by weak American protest after seizure of Guam, demanded Hawaii to accept Japanese rule. Hawaii accepted Japanese demand.

    It was year 1947 when rivatly between Germany and Japan in Asia reached the peak. In 3rd of December, Japanese Imperial Navy suddenly launched surprise attack on German fleet based in Singapore. Planes from nine Japanese aircraft carriers striked German ships in harbour, sinking five German battleships including SMS Amerika, biggest battleship of German Asiatic fleet. Three years of bitter war between two great powers started. Germans quickly sent strong parts of other fleets to reinforce Asiatic fleet. It was large handicap for Germany not to start larger construction of aircraft carriers several years before. This was another consequence of German traditionalist view on military that saw use of battleships and heavy cruisers as best option for naval warfare. On the other hand, Japan experimented with new naval technology since the end of Weltkrieg.

    To preserve stability in Europe and Africa, Germany didn't drag non-Asian members of Mitteleuropa into war. Germany was aided by Princenly Federation, AlgOstAsien GmbH and Qing Empire. Japanese Empire was assisted by all members of it's military alliance called Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere: Transamur, Korea(granted independence by Emperor in 1940), Philippines(accepting Japanese protection during American Civil War) and Fengtien Republic. First part of war was fought on the sea. After destruction of their most advanced carrier SMS Graf Zeppelin and several capital ships in Battle of the Philippine Sea(June 1948), Germans knew they can't win the war on the sea. German Pacific islands quickly fell into Japanese hands one after another. In end of 1948 Germans concentrated on war in China. Beijing was twice captured by Japanese and then liberated by Qing troops, commanded by German general Alexander von Falkenhausen(working in China as Chief Inspector of Imperial Chinese Army and as Chairman of AlgOstAsien GmbH Board of Directors).

    None of the sides could also achieve air superiority over China. Germans compensated unsuccessful naval campaign in the skies over China. Germany managed to counter wast IJAAF with changing China into one big unsinkable carrier. Luftwaffe payed high price to prevent Japanese from dominating skies over China. But it was not alone. Altough not all members of Mitteleuropa being in war against Japan, many of European nations sent unofficial aid. Many Austro-Hungarian, Italian, Lithuanian and Ukrainian pilots flew in their fighters under emblem of Luftwaffe. In 1948, Luftwaffe started with limited operational use of Messerschmitt Me 262, first jet-powered fighter aircraft. This aircraft was not produced in big numbers due to lack of testing and and many unsolved technical problems. Messerschmitt Bf 109 stayed most reliable German fighter until the end of the war.

    Frustrated by lack of success on continent and in desperate need of resources to fed war industry, Japanese Empire invaded Dutch Indonesia in 1949, pushing Netherlands into German bloc. Weak colonial troops of Holland were not able to stop Japanese from seizing entire Indonesia soon. However, entire Royal Netherlands Air Force was soon taking part in dogfights over China. Japanese also attempted to land in Southern China and Indochina, but without success, thanks to land forces of Princenly Federation which were shiped to Southern China and German Indochina to defend those areas against Japanese invasion. Germans also managed to keep Singapure in their hands despite heavy Japanese air and naval bombardment. Japanese were pressing on Siam to enter the war, but Siam was paralized by peasant uprisings, sponsored by Bengal, what was great fortune for Germans.

    In middle of 1950, it was more than clear this war is not going anywhere. Japanese occupied all German Pacific possessions, but were unsuccessful on Chinese mainland. Kriegsmarine was no match for IJN in direct combat, but Germans, hidding their ships in small Chinese ports, still waged irritating raids on less defended Japanese naval units and convoys. Germany also started with massive use of submarines in Pacific. But Germans didn't how long can they still bear burden of war in Asia. German economy, just getting back on feet after Market Crash in 1936, was in downfall again. Trade routes with Asia were very limited and this was great blow to German economy. In 3rd September 1950 peace treaty was signed in Shanghai, only confirming gains and loses of the war. Japanese gained all German Pacific islands including German New Guinea and Dutch Indonesia. However, Germans were allowed to keep North Borneo, since Germans successfuly defended this possession trough entire war, despite Japanese occupation of entire Indonesia. Japanese established Indonesian Confederation, new client state in the lands of former Dutch Indonesia and German New Guinea.

    Time showed that German influence in East Asia would vanish without peace treaty. In 1951, Changsha Revolution shocked AlgOstAsien GmbH. Chinese had enough of ruthless exploitation of German companies and wave of revolution couldn't be halted by security forces. Germany, exhausted from war with Japan, made simple decision: AlgOstAsien GmbH was established in remaining German possessions in Indochina and Malasya. Republican revolutionary armies were strong enough to overthrow pro-German regime in Eastern Central China, but not strong enough to advance into Qing possessions and Southern China, which was still under German control. Germans didn't keep any possessions under direct control in Asia, but preseved their presence via semi-colonial corporation(all remaining German possessions were joined under AlgOstAsien GmbH) and trough loyal Qing Empire.

    Qing Empire which had to side with Germany during Japanese invasion(Japanese invaded Imperial China also) stayed loyal German ally. Slowly Pu Yi managed to restore part of the old imperial glory. Crazy Baron Sternberg canceled his plans for domination of Asia since he couldn't get Tibetan support. Being aware of unpredictable situation in Asia, Tibet was more cautios and rather chosed more reliable side. Tibet became part of Chinese Empire again, but Dalai Lama stayed supreme religious ruler and great political authority. Tibet also preserved all cultural, religious and national rights, and broad autonomy granted by Chinese Emperor. Ma Clique soon followed Tibet and Sinkiang was again incorporated into Qing Empire. Ma family warlords sold their independence well, since they managed to achieve high positions in Empire. In 1955 cultist state of Shanqing Tiangue was finally crushed by Qing forces, ending threat of theocratic revolutionaries that preached destruction of Qing Empire and establishment of ''New Heavenly China''. In same year Yunnan Clique also accepted imperial authority, off course for price of several concesions in Empire. Those five years since the end of war in Asia were quite successful for Pu Yi, but China was still far from being united. It was always good to keep Germans near, but new Republic of China was great frustration for Pu Yi. He always wished to destroy Chinese Republic, but his wish was never granted.




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    Australasian Confederation which was born after unification of Australia and New Zealand after the Great War, survived chaos in Asia and stayed loyal member of Entente until modern day. Australasian Confederation also controls Fiji and some surrounding islands, and Port Moresby in New Guinea.


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    Brilliant update.
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    Nice update. I agree with Karaiskandar that the way you handled the German-Japanese war was very good- neither side got everything they wanted from the war and as they both have a major presence in the region everything's nicely poised to kick off again.

    What's the relationship between the Republic of China and Japan like btw? I can see it going two ways depending on the attitude the Japanese take- if they emphasise the 'Asia for the Asians!' stuff then I imagine they'd be allied but if Japan continues with its attempts to dominate China then they'll probably be enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiserMuffin View Post
    I always liked your grand overview before plunging into the narrative. It saves the painful process of assuming your readers know x. With the MDS2/KR mod though it is IMO perfectly obvious that you need to fill us in first.
    Thank you for your opinion, it looks like it's best to inform the readers first. So my plan for story stays unchanged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karaiskandar View Post
    Brilliant update.
    That German-Japanese war and its consequences are well thought.
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhuge Liang View Post
    Nice update. I agree with Karaiskandar that the way you handled the German-Japanese war was very good- neither side got everything they wanted from the war and as they both have a major presence in the region everything's nicely poised to kick off again.

    What's the relationship between the Republic of China and Japan like btw? I can see it going two ways depending on the attitude the Japanese take- if they emphasise the 'Asia for the Asians!' stuff then I imagine they'd be allied but if Japan continues with its attempts to dominate China then they'll probably be enemies.
    Thanks, I'm glad you like situation in Asia. Your thinking about policy of Chinese Republic is very good. Republic of China can indeed chose a lot of paths for it's future. The thing is that Republican China is not part of any bloc, but occupies richest part of Chinese mainland(East coast), what makes it important rising power. It's mostly on policy of Japan and Entente to influence future of Chinese Republic. Germany will probably stay natural enemy of Chinese Republic, while Syndicalist plans for China are still a mystery. There will be more detailed info on Chinese history, politics and situation in China in specific updates. Next update will be overview of South America, after that comes North America as last overview.
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