Magna Mundi Ultimate - CTD Bugs Thread

**Earl Uhtred** · 04-03-2010 13:50

Originally Posted by SorelusImperion

The game always crashes when attempting to move the start date beyond the early 1520's.

I have not made extensive tests but I have tried it several times moving in 10year steps from 1399 onwards and it always crashes when trying to move beyond 1519.

Something to do with the reformation?

**Uglyr** · 04-03-2010 15:09

Originally Posted by SorelusImperion

The game always crashes when attempting to move the start date beyond the early 1520's.

I have not made extensive tests but I have tried it several times moving in 10year steps from 1399 onwards and it always crashes when trying to move beyond 1519.

Read Impotrant notes once again:

Originally Posted by Helius

2) You can only start a game on one of the three default dates (1399, 1453, or 1477)! Adjusting country histories for every single day in history would have been more than we can handle with our limited resources. Sorry! Keep in mind that Magna Mundi has always been designed with the Grand Campaign (1453-1821) in mind.

**Minchandre** · 05-03-2010 06:27

CTD upon opening EU3 (it starts up, and then crashes before the intro movies).

MMU 1.05, with latest HT3

**Iamwinterborn** · 05-03-2010 07:34

Originally Posted by Minchandre

CTD upon opening EU3 (it starts up, and then crashes before the intro movies).

MMU 1.05, with latest HT3

Sounds like a bad install.

I assume vanilla works fine?

Try redownloading/installing the mod.

**Damendar** · 05-03-2010 20:02

Hello,

I also am having the exact same problem as 2 others have reported. It's made it into the list of CTD bugs already, the:

Bug Heading: CTD while loading
Particulars: Cycles through loading screens to 'Initiating Maplogic' unusually fast, then crashes. Doesn't happen in Vanilla or in older versions of MM.
Status: Submitted 2/3/10 - no progress made on this yet
Notes: 2 Reports of this issue.

Is there any additional info I can provide to help out here?

******************UPDATE*****************

Heh, I may have figured this one out. Why does that ALWAYS happen right AFTER I post? Argh.

Anyways, the problem for me was the duplicate map cache created if you install EU3 into the Program Files (x86).

I had deleted the 'regular' cache, but not the one in the VirtualStore.

After deleting the 2nd cache, it loaded just fine.

I would suggest you have the other folks reporting the crash during the 'Initiating Maplogic' phase follow the instructions in your Windows Vista Issue sticky which can be found at:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/fo...d.php?t=378143

and see if that fixes it for them as well.

Cheers!

**Minchandre** · 05-03-2010 23:34

Originally Posted by Iamwinterborn

Sounds like a bad install.

I assume vanilla works fine?

Try redownloading/installing the mod.

Vanilla works fine. Will reinstall mod, followed by reinstalling game.

**Zolotaya** · 06-03-2010 00:38

Originally Posted by Damendar

Hello,

I also am having the exact same problem as 2 others have reported. It's made it into the list of CTD bugs already, the:

Bug Heading: CTD while loading
Particulars: Cycles through loading screens to 'Initiating Maplogic' unusually fast, then crashes. Doesn't happen in Vanilla or in older versions of MM.
Status: Submitted 2/3/10 - no progress made on this yet
Notes: 2 Reports of this issue.

Is there any additional info I can provide to help out here?

******************UPDATE*****************

Heh, I may have figured this one out. Why does that ALWAYS happen right AFTER I post? Argh.

Anyways, the problem for me was the duplicate map cache created if you install EU3 into the Program Files (x86).

I had deleted the 'regular' cache, but not the one in the VirtualStore.

After deleting the 2nd cache, it loaded just fine.

I would suggest you have the other folks reporting the crash during the 'Initiating Maplogic' phase follow the instructions in your Windows Vista Issue sticky which can be found at:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/fo...d.php?t=378143

and see if that fixes it for them as well.

Cheers!

Thank you for posting this, Hopefully this will help others as well.

**Zhangku** · 06-03-2010 05:01

Originally Posted by Damendar

Hello,

I also am having the exact same problem as 2 others have reported. It's made it into the list of CTD bugs already, the:

Bug Heading: CTD while loading
Particulars: Cycles through loading screens to 'Initiating Maplogic' unusually fast, then crashes. Doesn't happen in Vanilla or in older versions of MM.
Status: Submitted 2/3/10 - no progress made on this yet
Notes: 2 Reports of this issue.

Is there any additional info I can provide to help out here?

******************UPDATE*****************

Heh, I may have figured this one out. Why does that ALWAYS happen right AFTER I post? Argh.

Anyways, the problem for me was the duplicate map cache created if you install EU3 into the Program Files (x86).

I had deleted the 'regular' cache, but not the one in the VirtualStore.

After deleting the 2nd cache, it loaded just fine.

I would suggest you have the other folks reporting the crash during the 'Initiating Maplogic' phase follow the instructions in your Windows Vista Issue sticky which can be found at:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/fo...d.php?t=378143

and see if that fixes it for them as well.

Cheers!

Where exactly is the VirtualStore?

**Mukashi** · 06-03-2010 05:31

Bug Heading: CTD on Quit
Particulars: Rather than a graceful exit from the program, EUIII always seems to crash when quitting from the program in MMU1.05. Using Windows 7 64 bit, not sure if it's relevant.

**Damendar** · 06-03-2010 05:52

Originally Posted by Zhangku

Where exactly is the VirtualStore?

Follow the link I gave, and the instructions in that thread. That will show you how to get in there and fix it.

**Zhangku** · 06-03-2010 07:25

Thanks, it works now,

**Iamwinterborn** · 06-03-2010 08:50

Originally Posted by Mukashi

Bug Heading: CTD on Quit
Particulars: Rather than a graceful exit from the program, EUIII always seems to crash when quitting from the program in MMU1.05. Using Windows 7 64 bit, not sure if it's relevant.

I too have this problem.

I am using XP 32 bit.

Out of curiosity, how much memory do you have? My machine has low memory (only 2gb), and that has caused me issues in the past, and before this version I always suffered a bad performance hit when I quit that lasted for a few minutes.

**Helius** · 06-03-2010 08:52

Yup, me too. There's worse. :shrugs:

**Earl Uhtred** · 06-03-2010 11:53

About the 'Initiating Maplogic' crash - I finally got around it by uninstalling / reinstalling the whole game.

**Zolotaya** · 06-03-2010 12:46

Originally Posted by Earl Uhtred

About the 'Initiating Maplogic' crash - I finally got around it by uninstalling / reinstalling the whole game.

Thank you for the update. I hope everything is working well now.

**Don_Quigleone** · 06-03-2010 18:09

Originally Posted by Mukashi

Bug Heading: CTD on Quit
Particulars: Rather than a graceful exit from the program, EUIII always seems to crash when quitting from the program in MMU1.05. Using Windows 7 64 bit, not sure if it's relevant.

Me too.

Also

Bug Heading: CTD when going past ~1500 in startup screen.
Particulars: going past 1500 or so on the startup screen leads to a CTD immediately. I understand these dates aren't supported, but it was working in MMP2? It seems a bit ... unprofessional, perhaps? And annoying, because it can be very easy to accidentally press the button that pushes the start date forward by a century.

**Iamwinterborn** · 06-03-2010 20:29

Originally Posted by Don_Quigleone

Me too.

Also

Bug Heading: CTD when going past ~1500 in startup screen.
Particulars: going past 1500 or so on the startup screen leads to a CTD immediately. I understand these dates aren't supported, but it was working in MMP2? It seems a bit ... unprofessional, perhaps? And annoying, because it can be very easy to accidentally press the button that pushes the start date forward by a century.

As noted already in this thread, and in the "Important Notes" part of the download thread, the only dates you can choose are the 1399, 1453, and 1477? Sengoku, starts.

This is because it would take to much time to redo the history files for every date.

**bearhug** · 06-03-2010 21:44

Whoops! Posted in the wrong thread. Sorry.

**blacksmith** · 06-03-2010 21:57

Originally Posted by Mukashi

Bug Heading: CTD on Quit
Particulars: Rather than a graceful exit from the program, EUIII always seems to crash when quitting from the program in MMU1.05. Using Windows 7 64 bit, not sure if it's relevant.

I too have this one, although my computer is XP, and I'm using MMU 1.00.

Also

Bug Heading: CTD on Alt-Tabbing Back into MMU

Particulars: I can successfully alt-tab out of MMU to do something else, look at the manual for instance. However, if I try to alt-tab back into MMU, or just click the tab for it manually at the bottom of the screen, I get a crash.

**Don_Quigleone** · 07-03-2010 03:22

Originally Posted by Iamwinterborn

As noted already in this thread, and in the "Important Notes" part of the download thread, the only dates you can choose are the 1399, 1453, and 1477? Sengoku, starts.

This is because it would take to much time to redo the history files for every date.

Why not import the history from vanilla? Or have it stay static after 1500? Better then an ugly CTD. I'm not saying that a later date should be supported, just that you should stop CTDs from occurring if you look at them.

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