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about the source well, it should be online in his case (try with chinese letters?)
,about the source well, it should be online in his case (try with chinese letters?)
Hi Bestmajor,
Great job as always!!
If you're still looking for new pictures of French generals, you can find some here:
Alas, some pictures aren't good enough to be used for colouring work, but they can still help you for identification in your researches...
P.S.: I got your colour pictures for France and thanks to them I was able to add about 70 new leaders (Puaud not added, only for Vichy in my customized files) although I deleted more than 40 old leaders who were not generals but were "Compagnons de la Libération" (and about a dozen are still on probation list)...
Some Links for you:
http://ecole-superieure-de-guerre.fr/promotions/list/1/106/
(Superior War School; many entries have a bio and a picture of generals, usually in interwar uniform but sometimes WW2 or postwar; also branch of service)
http://web.genealogies.free.fr/
is working again! no pictures here (long gone) but infos on promotion dates and commands.
Great job as always!!
If you're still looking for new pictures of French generals, you can find some here:
Alas, some pictures aren't good enough to be used for colouring work, but they can still help you for identification in your researches...
P.S.: I got your colour pictures for France and thanks to them I was able to add about 70 new leaders (Puaud not added, only for Vichy in my customized files) although I deleted more than 40 old leaders who were not generals but were "Compagnons de la Libération" (and about a dozen are still on probation list)...
Some Links for you:
http://ecole-superieure-de-guerre.fr/promotions/list/1/106/
(Superior War School; many entries have a bio and a picture of generals, usually in interwar uniform but sometimes WW2 or postwar; also branch of service)
http://web.genealogies.free.fr/
is working again! no pictures here (long gone) but infos on promotion dates and commands.
thanks a lot. (cant open the rapidshare link though).
i think i still have some more french people (ie land forces). what i really need are Admirals (desparately) and air force people.
btw, do you agree to the following identifications of vanilla pics:
Lafant Chabert ( L24109 ) shows Giraud
Carlès ( L24027 ) is de Gaulle ?
Monnet (L24122) is Juin ?
and Ihler and d'Arras have use the very same image (iirc taken in Dünkirchen/Dunkerque 1940)
about the liberaation people, yes i'm aware of those people, i think i replace them after a few more updates at generals.dk at least one should still come this year.
EDIT: ok, have it now. admirals problem seems to be (at least in parts) solved. thanks again.
i think i still have some more french people (ie land forces). what i really need are Admirals (desparately) and air force people.
btw, do you agree to the following identifications of vanilla pics:
Lafant Chabert ( L24109 ) shows Giraud
Carlès ( L24027 ) is de Gaulle ?
Monnet (L24122) is Juin ?
and Ihler and d'Arras have use the very same image (iirc taken in Dünkirchen/Dunkerque 1940)
about the liberaation people, yes i'm aware of those people, i think i replace them after a few more updates at generals.dk at least one should still come this year.
EDIT: ok, have it now. admirals problem seems to be (at least in parts) solved. thanks again.
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You're right, there's a problem with rapidshare; the file should be attached below now.
for general Marcel Ihler, the picture is the good one although of poor quality, taken from the photo below. No known pic of general Jacques-Marie-Toussaint d'Arras for now.
Lafont Chabert has picture of Giraud indeed! correct name should be de La Font; see: http://ecole-superieure-de-guerre.fr/promotions/biographie/2900
Note: BG 1939, MG 1941, LTG 1942, in reserve 1944; Panzer leader OK, Vichy too.
Carlès: I remember having seen this pic for one of the liberation people but I can't remember which one!
Monnet: unknown to me, on the web.genealogy site I found only a colonial infantry Brigadier General named Claude Monet (1880-1940) without picture...
New link found today (for admirals): http://ecole.nav.traditions.free.fr/officiers_a.htm
for general Marcel Ihler, the picture is the good one although of poor quality, taken from the photo below. No known pic of general Jacques-Marie-Toussaint d'Arras for now.
Lafont Chabert has picture of Giraud indeed! correct name should be de La Font; see: http://ecole-superieure-de-guerre.fr/promotions/biographie/2900
Note: BG 1939, MG 1941, LTG 1942, in reserve 1944; Panzer leader OK, Vichy too.
Carlès: I remember having seen this pic for one of the liberation people but I can't remember which one!
Monnet: unknown to me, on the web.genealogy site I found only a colonial infantry Brigadier General named Claude Monet (1880-1940) without picture...
New link found today (for admirals): http://ecole.nav.traditions.free.fr/officiers_a.htm
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thats why i said i solved my admirals problem.
found there:
Barthes_Georges_Emile_
Battet_Robert_Marie_
Berenger_Marie_Daniel_
Collinet_Louis-Edmond_
Derrien_Edmond_Louis_
Gervais_de_Lafond_
Gouton_Pierre_Victor_
Jaujard_Robert_
Juge_René_Clément_
Marquis_André_Amédée_Abel_
Missoffe_Jacques_Marie_
Odend'hal_Jean_Ernest_
Platon_Charles_Jean_Guillaume_ (better pic than my current one)
Traub_Marcel_Edouard_Francois_
Amiral Henry NOMY
EDIT: Jacques AVICE
ok than i did not dream this. i'm also sure i have seen the pic before somewhere. probably on that ordre de la liberation site.
is there a confirmation who that guy is? i have this pic but i had no confirmation.
otherwise just this one: http://ftbo.pagesperso-orange.fr/thann/ihler8.htm
EDIT: ok Ihler seems to be confirmed
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Are you sure his bio is also on the site?
BERENGER Marie-Daniel-Régis aka Daniel Bérenger (1888-1971); RA 1941, VA 1943 (note; in French Navy, RA = BG & VA = MG, rank equivalent to LTG is Vice-Amiral d'Escadre); the victor of Koh-Chang of course (Superior Tactician)!
Him and admiral Amanrich: how do you class these two naval aeronautics specialists, air or naval leaders?
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benden said:
yes i think its him: http://ecole.nav.traditions.free.fr/officiers_beranger_mdr.htm
EDIT: as for the ranks and such things: i'm more generous to nations which dont have that many leaders yet.
i only have about 1300 items for france, minus the doubles are maybe something between 200 and 300 people. not that much compared to 13000 german images where i can be more strict.
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i had to look at the CSVs again. those are at the bottom of the "colour" packages (file called "zzz - CSVs" just to have it at the bottom). france is pretty much like vanilla i would say as i'm still tweaking the germans and made some corrections for ITA, SOV, JAP and ENG.
i did not spend to much attention on france as they usually loose so quick, this is what i have right now:
pretty much standardized values.
EDIT: Joseph-Édouard Barès: a bit old, dont you think?
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I missed him, but he's the right one; I think I have a magazine with a better picture of him, when I find it I will scan it for you.
Right, but if you play as France, you would be more than happy to have better leaders than in the original CSV!
I would rate admiral Amanrich like that too, fine; at first I added manually your pics to my leaders/ministers files, but now I'm going to use directly your own CSV since I noticed you changed many things: more correct names, non-general leaders were deleted (I noticed that in ENG.csv) and new leaders were added...
Yes, he was first chief of staff of the French air force but he retired in 1934 and was not recalled in 1939, although he was still on the reserve list (second section) at least up to 1945! the picture was good quality so I think it could have been used for Barès as a minister/leader for 1933 scenarios (as an OG of course!).
EDIT: pics of French cabinet 1936, thx Bestmajor!
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well i'll definately play as france once i'm through with them.
as for the CSVs i think germany is already ok.
just the promotion dates of Lanz, Schörner and Göbel still need some tweaking (the latter was only promoted posthumously).
just be careful with the vichy event (well if you play france you wont see that one anyway).i still need to tweak this one.benden said:
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ok. i dont know if OG works for air force leaders. i gave Stülpnagel an OG but never really tested it.
note there are some events for german leaders to retire as it seemed this did not work properly (at least in AoD).
EDIT: if you could give proper feedback from gaming experience i could send you a newer version, btw. i have hardly the time to test all these things myself.
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EDIT: pics of French cabinet 1936 and new leaders, thx Bestmajor!
there should be a better pic of Amiral Darlan, i think.
little preview:
first two lines SOV, next two lines FRA, last BUL
benden, if you have a pic which could be used for this http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-in-Colour&p=12906717&viewfull=1#post12906717
please post it (no matter if B&W or colour)
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Nice idea to colour the "Attackplatta"! if I find a good pic for France I would surely post it for you. Thx for the preview and, by the way, here's the pic of admiral Bérenger:
Note: the picture was taken post-war during his trial...
I found some good quality photos of the ministers and generals of CHI, but it is a Chinese website....
http://gate.sinovision.net:82/gate/...php?act=details&id=85693&bcode=3346laorongshu
http://gate.sinovision.net:82/gate/...php?act=details&id=85693&bcode=3346laorongshu
thanks erica, i'll muddle through this. chinese usually works.
4 page ahead is Gui Yongqing in colour, btw (L50156). nice find.
http://www.generals.dk/general/Gui_Yongqing/_/China.html
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/桂永清
benden, thanks for the pic.
4 page ahead is Gui Yongqing in colour, btw (L50156). nice find.
http://www.generals.dk/general/Gui_Yongqing/_/China.html
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/桂永清
benden, thanks for the pic.
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about the french initial cabinet, shouldnt it look like this?
i was searching for vice-amiral Louis Violette and head of deuxiéme bureau Colonel Maurice-Henri Gauché without any luck, though.
i was searching for vice-amiral Louis Violette and head of deuxiéme bureau Colonel Maurice-Henri Gauché without any luck, though.
-Henri-Maurice Gauche: http://ecole-superieure-de-guerre.fr/promotions/biographie/3075
-Louis-Hippolyte Violette: http://ecole.nav.traditions.free.fr/officiers_violette.htm
Bonus: air general Joseph Tulasne (1879-1948): http://aeroplanedetouraine.fr/tulasne_joseph/
BG 1930, BG (air) 1933, MG (air) 1934, LTG (air) 1935, in vacation of flight personnel from 10/1936 & in reserve from 1941.
Note: another head of military intelligence should be colonel (then general) Pierre-Louis Rivet (from 1936 to 1944):
http://www.aassdn.org/acrFOriv01.html
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/images/284736403X/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=301061&s=books
thanks.
Re: Tulasne: i have him already but thought he is to old.
maybe you can ID http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&p=1634807#p1634807 Laferre?
EDIT: colonel de Gefrier (air force - maybe higher rank but colonel in 1937). known?
Re: Tulasne: i have him already but thought he is to old.
maybe you can ID http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&p=1634807#p1634807 Laferre?
EDIT: colonel de Gefrier (air force - maybe higher rank but colonel in 1937). known?
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Sorry, unknown to me & not in 1937 (nor 1938) French Army millitary annuary from web.genealogie...maybe an incorrect name?
Note: in 1937 military governors of Paris were first general Henri Gouraud (from 1923 to 1937)then general Gaston Billotte (1937-1939)
Infos taken from web.genealogie:
01/05/39 Général de brigade aérienne puis 15/12/41 Général de division aérienne Hubert-Marie-Joseph de Geffrier (15/04/1893-1968): ..., chef d'état-major de la zone d'opérations aériennes du Nord et de la 1 armée aérienne (02/09/39-06/40), puis commandant de la base aérienne de Tarbes, puis chef de la 38 région aérienne, puis président de la délégation française aérienne auprès de la Commission allemande d'armistice (II) (41), puis chef de la 1 région aérienne (Aix-en-Provence) (V) et du secteur de défense aérienne du Sud (15/12/41-42), puis 43 en congé d'armistice. [Avant la guerre: attaché de l'Air à Berlin (01/07/37-02/09/39).] [Après la guerre: 15/04/46 en congé défintif du Personnel Navigant, 01/04/50 en réserve.]
-> in short BG 1939, MG 1941, in armistice vacation from 1943, in vacation of flight personnel from 1946 & in reseve from 1950.
de Geffrier is maybe on one of the pics on this page: http://aeroplanedetouraine.fr/51e_escadre/ since the text said he commanded this squadron as a major...
On general Tuslane; not in active service after 1936 but he could have been recalled in need since he was in "vacation" (no command of note); available as an OG like general Barès for example...
thought about the incorrect name as well. La Ferre, de La Ferre, Laterre, de La Terre... nadabenden said:
as for the garrison thing: maybe just a unit/div which was there.
that would match.
you can find him on http://ullsteinbild.de/search.php?search=Gefrier&date=
good tags there:
Keywords/Suchbegriffe: Offizier [Countryname] (Frankreich/Tunesien/Marokko/Indochina/Italien - just maybe better with german phrases)
or
Politiker [Countryname]
General [Countryname]
as for the time frame: "1930 - 1950" usually works well.
if you know the guy already you can also use simply the name of the person, or use a known person like Rommel and look who's in the background (good for some ITA's)
tags like "spanischer Bürgerkrieg" works as well.
ok i have a little test version ready (progress is slow as i'm working on the soviets at the same time).
maybe you could mention the persons who are definately wrong (in 1936 only, i'll try to do this year by year).
http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/bestmajor file is called "HoI2"
pic of Louis Grélot is not in the CSV yet, though.
no stress needed, i've more than enough to do here
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