colour pictures

benden said:

I noticed that you bothered to colour pics of some of those old generals like Generaloberst Wilhelm Heye (in reserve from 1938); since a lot of players enjoy 1933 scenarios those generals (even the Old Guards) are always welcome.

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well, yes i did this in the very first versions. but right now i really have to set priorities. covering germany 20th century complete would be probably possible as i have all admirals from 1860-1990, the complete 3rd reich luftwaffe, and west german armed complete until 1990 (if you need a pic of Guggenberger in admirals rank, look at the DFR section). well if you really need a specific person feel free to ak as i may have him or can get a scan of him, but i'm not following the vanilla CSV. i also made a pic of Hugo Cei for ITA and i dont use him.

benden said:

This should really be fixed by the modders of DH, AoD, PoS, etc...at least the death date should work in not loading the leaders dead/retired before the start date of the scenario.

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yes, of course. could lead to problems in uruguay etc.

benden said:

That's Rear Admiral R. H. C. Hallifax, who lead the Home Fleet destroyers flotillas from May,1939 to March 1942.

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well yes but i need a pic. i replaced him right now, but still searching for him.

benden said:

Quite impressive, especially when comparing with the GIP...

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well those guys are funny, took appr 100 pics from my project, interestingly a lot of pics which are not in vanilla but those which i use as replacements for pilots, women, etc.
dont know how that looks like ingame, but should be a real mess by now.

Hister said:

Wow, so you have a discussion going on two fronts

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yes, and i'm not that good in multitasking

v22 is up please see first post this thread.

note ITA: Barbasetti di Prun, old pic was wrong, new should be correct, some guys added which are completely new

SOV and FRA: vichy and purges events modified. both events refer to the leaders/ministers CSVs (an be found at the end of the package) of those countries and you should take either both things or none of them.

new content mainly for SOV, FRA, GER, ENG, ITA

benden said:

First, congratulations again for your great job and all those brand new or revised leaders & ministers! I love especially Jacomy and Sabattier (the original pic as a VIC leader was awful), and I hope that maybe general Mordant will be in the next release?

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ok for Mordant, as for the soviets, maybe read the notes i left in the CSV. there were a lot of pilots and such people who can be found here

(eg Odintsov, Pauline Osipenko and a lot more). so the soviets are not more, all in all. just different people.

as for http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B9,_%D0%93%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%94%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
Hayk Bzhishkyan, Guy Dmitrievich Guy, Gai Dmitrievich Gai or however you want to call him i remved him as he was already arrested in 1935 (so maybe somebody for the 1933 scenario)

Albert Lapin was air force, so better the pic with the blue collar tabs: http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/collections-display/wwii-red-air-force-uniforms-16122/ instead of the red ones.

Argunov was btw organizing the partisans http://generals.dk/general/Argunov/Nikolai_Emelianovich/Soviet_Union.html
before him that should be voroshilov http://generals.dk/general/Voroshilov/Kliment_Efremovich/Soviet_Union.html
(just in case Schenckendorff is searching his friends)

Lakeev is actually already in the game, he is called "Chimid" and a mongolian minister
http://www.airforce.ru/staff/who_is_who/l/l.htm

so having in reserve even dozens of average skill-no traits leaders is always useful.

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well, make some suggestions?
all in all the big mistakes come in the first two years, so i'm trying to tidy up these a bit before i proceed (if thats possible) and add new entries.

Note: Modifying my files with the editor I spotted a few pics still in JPG format:
Noiret_Roger5_colour_fra
Lejeune_Francis_St_David_Benwell_colour_eng
Swinton_William_colour_eng
Hume_Edgar_Erskine_colour_usa
(it was quickly corrected of course!)

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thanks, such things are always appreciated (really i cant check these myself, i even might have a few unreleased here which i missed to copy in and if nobody tells me i'll never find out)

Kovakanki said:

Ok, I'll upload my work later this weekend.

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have you forgotten?



EDIT: ok i added a corrections pack with the 4 leaderpics converted into .bmp

Kovakanki said:

Sorry, I just forgot...
Here's the file, it includes several new pics and modified .csv but also most of those crappy/false/lowrank vanilla pics.

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thanks, thats basically what you have uploaded here?


thanks to this i was already able to find Maurice Mesny, but for more in colour i really need the source images (if still available). - btw i was googling until my fingers were bloody, you did a great job!

most images are wrong in those CSVs for example general Francois http://www.generals.dk/general/Fran%C3%A7ois/Marie-Jules-Victor-L%C3%A9on/France.html uses the pic of Hermann von Francois (GER/ww1) http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=844079&postcount=6

so every hint, link or whatever you have to find the sources would be appreciated.

with the link you gave me, i was able to find Vice-Amiral Devin - but that lasted ages. so every help is really appreciated.

thanks for the package. as for Arnauld de la Periere, i have him already (his brother could be a good TT for early turkey).

Général BAILLY as well, but no idea how to put him (sometimes i just collect and forget them over weeks or months)

as for the Flavigny pic, great with a cigarette.
as for the Monclar pic: is the current one to old?

Chauvineau: i had a similar case with Alfred Jacob: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?513765-TRIPARTITE-PACK-for-AoD-(new-graphics-and-audio)&p=12963072&viewfull=1#post12963072
so maybe treat them similar (i changed a few values for Jacob in the last upload, but maybe even more - dont see a reason for DD right now, though maybe OG for both should be ok if compared to somebody who lead a division)


EDIT: benden i have a suspicion why you were upping Arnauld. if its to have more air force leaders with a fleet destroyers trait for germany, best is to search for the COs of Fliegerführer Atlantik, X. Fliegerkorps or KG 26

i remeber i have used Arnauld with this trait some years ago, but i doubt i was right back then.
- well, just in case

benden said:

Your suspicion is right! Personally I love using Naval Bombers from Brest to sink many more convoys and weaken Allied fleets cruising at bomber range!!

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ok, well - i dont think Arnauld 2nd deserves this trait. maybe go to the CSV and search for the code for naval bomber, i think i have enough, but dont use these a lot. the problem with this and even more the sea wolves is that they come very very late in game.
but i had a similar problem with commando leaders for germany. i think i have them all now.

eg Wolfgang von Wild http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/WEHRMACHT/LUFTWAFFE/Generalmajor/WILD_WOLFGANG.html

benden said:

Yes, great but still poor quality, sorry!

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with this original: http://www.generals.dk/general/Lazarev/Ivan_Gavrilovich/Soviet_Union.html

so i think it will work.

Paul Bailly (1903-1976) lead a RAF heavy bomber group as a colonel during WW2, then he created and commanded National Air Defense (Interceptors) in 1949 and was Chief of Staff of the French Air Force from 1955 to 1958; his rank dates: BG 1946, MG 1949, LTG 1953, G 1955, retired ?? suggested trait(s): Carpet Bomber and perhaps Superior Tactician too?

Links:
http://halifax346et347.canalblog.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_o...ench_Air_Force

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ok, i remember this halifax blog. thanks.

I usually give DD to fortifications commanders and inspectors too...general chauvineau really designed and built fortifications, and, like Pétain, was partisan of a defensive doctrine (he exposed his defensive theories in a book prefaced by Pétain: "Is a German invasion still possible?").

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that depends and i'm not through with my reasoning..., lets say Klopper (SAF) was CO Tobruk, maybe ok but i think he performed to poorly.
Petrov for the battle of Sevastopol - i think he should get one as he kept Manstein and a whole army busy for almost a year.

as for Alfred Jacob and maybe chauvineau as well, i think those two are more or less architects in uniform? - i mean its not about the pic, just how to put them.

Well, I like much the current one but I think it was taken in 1950 during the Korean War; the B&W pic with a slightly younger Monclar as a BG is more WW2 vintage.

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ah, ok i thought this already. just please post such things. if you up the pic twice you leave me reasoning here.


EDIT: OK fleet destroyers germany from my CSV:

Hermann Bruch, Joachim Coeler, Hans Geisler, Martin Harlinghausen (also older version in west germany), Ulrich Kessler, Hans Ritter, Hans Siburg, Wolfgang von Wild, Konrad Zander

EDIT2: ok thanks a lot for the pics!

i made comparison between soviet and german fleet destroyers and i think germany i really good?


just Rakov is still an admiral in the current CSV, Yumashev a duplication like Kesselring

you're really sabotaging the soviet improvements

benden said:

Now I have no doubt! but I hope we can still find better pics since I noticed that you often redo new colour ones when better material is available.

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yes, i try but its a bit silly when you're through with one image and find a better one just a few days later. (means the almost complete RAF)


am i right with a tank trait for Flavigny? (found a book where he was mentioned as such)

benden said:

We have the same problem with all the generals who commanded Corps/Army-level Engineer or Artillery units; usually we rate them 1/4 or 1/5 since they didn't command division level units but they could have commanded such units because of reaching a general rank. So in including them in the game we should think how they will have used their specific training/abilities if given command of combat troops...

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ok i think those (engineers) and AA leaders max skill 3 and no trait or OG.

benden said:

Enough good, right! although I would be tempted to add exceptionally (he was only an colonel) Hajo Hermann!!

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maybe night flyer for post war? - if its for bombing the Murmansk convoys then its probably better to find out under which command he was flying then. - like Vizeadmiral Leo Kreisch never commanded a submarine personally but was leading the subs in italy
http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/WEHRMACHT/KRIEGSMARINE/Vizeadmirals/KREISCH_LEO.html

benden said:

A pity we are obligated to duplicate leaders who served in different roles (land/air, sea/air, etc...); a nice feature to be added in the various current mods would be multi-classed leaders, e.g. an admiral who can be used as a naval squadron leader or as a fleet destroyer air leader!

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well as for germany where you can do what you want its always possible to add an event for Kesselring, Stülpnagel or Löhr if you include the latter as a land leader.
more difficult for the soviets or japanese (impossible right now), though.

benden said:

Link for a few more French admirals: http://www.premar-manche.gouv.fr/ser...e=12&offset=24
Notes: Barthès RA 1942; Jourdain RA 1945, VA 1951; Périés RA 1945, VA 1952, VAE 1957; Rivet RA 1932, VA 1937, VAE 1939; Rebuffel RA 1946, VA 1953 (infos from web.genealogie).

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ok very cool, thanks. finally france should work even under ai command.

benden said:

Another link with Canadian Air Marshall Billy Bishop in full colour: http://taylorempireairways.com/2009/...e-clouds-1942/

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is that real or from a movie? - btw i have him in UK right now:blush:

as for Arnauld 2nd: i'll include him when i improve siberia

benden said:

Oh no, I love the Soviets very much too!!

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its just i thought i really bite my keyboard next time i spot another one of those pilots.

benden said:

Exactly! general Flavigny was Inspector of the Cavalry and he resigned from his post to take command of France's first true armored division, the 1ère Division Légère Mécanique, in 1936. I already love your pic, great job again! I use the one in Kovakanki's pics pack for now (until your next release!).

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ok if you want to look over those files PM me and you'll get them earlier if you want. its just i want to have them as correctly as possible and i cant do everything myself (ie pic hunting and verifying, making the pic + coding, testing etc). a lot of CSVs should even work with HoI2 DD, so if there are volunteers feel free to post - but its not a must of course.

benden said:

For the AA leaders I only hope that somebody will design a new Flak Specialist trait...

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well, that really depends, IMO. if the new specialist would be better in a certtain situation than one of the leaders without any trait who lead a division historically then maybe think twice...
cool (and accurate, maybe) would be a trait for GAR + AA only and a malus for the whole rest.

benden said:

A big question here: should I research for generals and admirals of the 1950s too? or only those who reached BG or RA ranks in WW2?

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for now i'm happy with everybody from early 30s to 47 maybe (usually i'm trying to finish those people for the ww2 time frame and the rest is bonus material. but if you have one dont keep it your secret.
just one question: if you play as france and defeted germany - what do you do then? - Operation Barbarossa à la francaise?

benden said:

He's the real one who appear as himself in this movie!

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i was convinced he was Alan Hale? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hale,_Sr.
(sorry thats not against you personally but this project is a bit like eating telephone books - the more you have, the more complicated it gets)

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Note: using Kovakanki's pics pack I added about 20 new leaders (7 admirals) and used about an equal number of his pics to replace the original B&W ones (new pics for Bertin-Boussu, Cyvoct, and better ones for Magnan, Gonzalez de Linares, Hartemann, etc...); but already I know that Flavigny will have his colour pic thx to you!

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i'm trying to get them all, definately. its just - i was downloading almost everything available here (pic packs) and you'll find some mistakes in almost every single one of it.


eg:
http://notes9.senato.it/web/senregno.nsf/0e10afcd14636769c1257134004b5171/51c3aa342d0012c74125646f005c8b13?OpenDocument
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedeo_Guillet
(compare dates of birth)

thats why i sometimes have to insist on seeing the original or i ask twice (even more if i cant compare the image to a confirmed one).

benden said:

And a few pics found this weekend with perhaps general Barré who resisted Kesselring's landings in Tunisia!

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thanks, i'll check these out!

ok, this is what comes up when i load my 1936 scenario (only coloured men mentioned as they're at least semi-confirmed)

Amiraux


Abrial
Darlan
de Larborde
de Penfentenyo
Decoux
Donval
Esteva
Gonsoul
Godfroy
Juge
Le Bigot
Le Luc
Marquis
Michelier
Muselier
Odend'hal
Richard
Rivet
Robert
Traub


Air


d'Astier de la Vigerie
Vuillemin
Armengaud
Jauneaud
Jannekeyn
Bouscat
Féquant
d'Harcourt
Denain
de Marancour
Tétu


Terre

Huntziger
Garchery
Giraud
Laure
Condé
Touchon
Loizeau
Corap
Dentz
Doumenc
Doyen
Dubuisson
Fagalde
Michelin
Francois M.J.
de La Porte du Theil
Gamelin
Colson
Hubert
Ihler
Audet
Delestraint
Barrau
Noguès
Ardant du Picq
Bührer
Pretelat
Prioux
Flavigny
Poupinel
Montagne
Sciard
Freydenberg
Billotte G.
Bourret
Bouffet
Cousse
Daille
Schweisguth
Frère
de Fornel de la Laurencie
Faury
Olry
Cartier
Besson
Berniquet
Dosse
Bineau
Réquin
Dufieux
Blanchard


not in:


Durand-Viel - naval leader
Grélot, Louis - land

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so i thought i'll focus on the 1936 - 1941 time frame first to keep things simple for me (means shortly after the vichy event)
is there somebody missing or somebody who should definately leave?
i'm very happy about the navy and land forces.
air force still need some leaders..

also, are there leaders who should definately come later? i use the Brigadier as initial rank for France


about the actors: I'm ok with Bishop, just this guy: http://www.linternaute.com/television/dossier/06/le-grand-charles/personnages/paul-reynaud.shtml
is definately an actor? saw the de Gaulle movie on Arte in August and i liked it - esp his conversations with Giraud.

this http://www.aea.asso.fr/public/parrains/houdemon.html is the Houdemon?
http://web.genealogies.free.fr/Les_militaires/2GM/France/Air/Generaux_Armee/H.htm

hi Kovakanki,

thank you very much, i think its Odic as i can confirm/ID the other ones.

and every crap thing is really welcome, no matter how small or crappy it is!

links to the originals are of course welcome as well, great research!

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definately not perfect but he's in now

Kovakanki said:

Ok, here is some more, all more or less of questionable quality:

Counter admiral ( =rear admiral) Michelet, I can't find any info about him other than being mentioned here.

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Frix Michelier?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=151929
http://madeleine.rouget.free.fr/pages/pattonmiche.html

Kovakanki said:

Generals Wattel and Rupied, sadly there is no way to tell who's who as the original caption had no names. If someone can find a pic of either one of these men it could solve the other one too.

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well, usually from left to right?
if you are interested you should post your findings HERE (with Link)
the source is somewhat foggy but maybe somebody there can find indicators when eg looking at the Kepis (i use the nick "Matteus" there and benden is Benden)