Resurgence - An HTTT Wednesday game

[Asymmetric]

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Start Date: Wednesday the 6th of January 2010.

Time: 20:30 to 00:30 (Central European Time)

Version: HTTT 4.1b - The 4.1b patch can be found here

Checksum: EISH

Save: For session 21 start

Weekly Attendance: Session 1, Session 2, Session 3, Session 4, Session 5, Session 6, Session 7, Session 8

GM: Asymmetric & Glatze

Hosts: Pilis, Swippy & Glatze

Editor: MonMarty

House rules:

* The GM's word is law on rule disputes and rehosting.

* The spy action sow discontent is banned.

* The spy action funding patriots is banned.

* We shall set up using no lucky nations.

* Player nations are banned from raising war taxes. Minors with under 40 census tax at +3 stability are exempt from this rule.

* No fleet stack size of more than 150 ships. Multiple stacks of this number can be in the same province however.

* No donating any money to AI states other than through gifts, even if the amount is zero. (i.e province trading, loans, etc)

* No trading for provinces that you cannot see.

* No delibrate wrecking of your own nation.

* No building province improvements for other nations. (including converting)

* No breaking cease fires. This does not prohibit coming to the defence of ally/gurantee/vassal with an aggressor you have a ceasefire with.

* Phony wars for province trading (or general trading provinces in this manner) to enable culture swapping decesions is forbidden. By this I mean swapping lands back and forth between player nations to gain advantageous cultural/national specific decesions.

* Attacking players vassal's is not forbidden. However if you have a cease fire with the host nation and you attack one of there vassals the host nation is allowed to respond if they wish and break the ceasfire.

* Player vassals are banned

On Bankruptcys: I advise players to avoid these at all possible. If any nation does go bankrupt you should inform me immeditately and your nations inflation will be editted to what it originaly was +5% on top of that.

Peace rules:

* Peace terms will not nessessarily be enforced by the GM. Players should consider strongly about taking in-game hostile actions against those nations that break them repeatedly or violate them by a signifcant margin.

Peace terms are recommended to be roughly 10% of a nations total provinces in same continent lands. For nations under 40 provinces taking 4 regardless of size is also reasonable. In terms of colonial lands, an increase of 50% of takings (15%) is also entirely reasonable and acceptable. If a losing player give up/ask for peace/surrenders, you should endeavour to make peace, and only stay in the war to siege the provinces you intend to take. Watch what your doing. Almost everyone loses a war in a campaign. Ask yourself if you want to be in position where you will lose most of your strength in a single war because peace terms have spirialled out of control.

Rehosts and General conduct:

* As a general rule most players can expect 2 rehosts for them during the course of a session. This is not an iron rule, sometimes players will be granted more if they believe they have solved there problems and there nation is key and in danger (i.e. war). Likewise, under certain circumstances players will not be granted any rehosts, such as finishing the final game session over the alotted time constraints. Secondary co-ops will also be treated less favourably in regards to rehosts in times of your nations peace.

* Do not talk in the chat box pop-up after the game launches and we're waiting for everyone to load.

* When rehosting, alt-F4 from the game. The checksum changes and you will need to restart.

* Patience is a virtue.

* Vulgarity & swearing, etc is not in anyway banned in-game. That said personnel attacks on other players or any particular odious rascist/xenophobic/homophobic remarks will not be tolerated.

* Players are expected to loosely abide by the forum rules while posting in this thread. The MP forums are more or less unmoderated but don't do anything to incur the wrath of the admins.

Complete list of all players who have taken part as perms, co-ops and subs:

1) Aieth
2) AOG89
3) Asymmetric
4) Cwuetly
5) Elcyion
6) Falahk
7) Flamarial
8) Glatze
9) Gollevainen
10) Gots
11) Jpr123
12) l3lacksheep
13) Mad_Bugger
14) Mayi
15) Metz
16) MonMarty
17) NapoleonI
18) Nostra
19) Orangeyoshi
20) Parasuca
21) Pilis
22) rayzee
23) Rysz
24) Scion
25) Skinner_Empire
26) Slargos
27) Smowz
28) Sute]{h
29) Swippy
30) Syber_Sid
31) TiltDK
32) von_Rundstedt
33) Walshy_24

[Asymmetric]

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World Stats

1399 * * * 1417 * * * 1433 * * * 1457 * * * 1478 * * * 1511

1523 * * * 1543 * * * 1565 * * * 1574 * * * 1598 * * * 1623

1640 * * *1658 * * * 1708

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Current Nation Roster

France - Walshy_24 & Falahk (Formerly ruled by Gollevainen)

Spain* - Sute]{h & TiltDK

Great Britain* - MonMarty & rayzee

Germany* - Pilis

Russia* - Glatze

Ottomans - von_Rundstedt (Formerly ruled by Smowz)

Morocco - Gots

Oman - l3lacksheep

Delhi - Parasuca

Champa - Asymmetric

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Reformed Nations*

Austria - Pilis & Aieth

England - MonMarty & Rysz

Novgorod - Glatze

Milan - Swippy

Teutonic Order - Falahk

Castile - Sute]{h & TiltDK

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Deceased Nations

Denmark, Early 15th Century - Formerly jpr123

Poland, Early 15th Century - Formerly Falahk

Georgia, Early 15th Century - Formerly Cwuelty

Portugal, Early 15th Century - Formerly AOG89

Majapahit, Early 15th Century - Formerly Walshy_24

Sweden, Mid 15th Century - Formerly Syber_Sid

Holland, Early 16th Century - Formerly Nostra & Slargos

Vijayanagar, Early 16th Century - Formerly Skinner_Empire

Hansa, Mid 16th Century - Formerly von_Rundstedt & rayzee

Italy*, Early 17th Century - Formerly Swippy

Prussia*, Late 17th Century - Formerly Falahk and Slargos

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World Maps



Map - 1399



Map - 1417



Map - 1433



Map - 1457



Map - 1478



Map - 1511



Map - 1523



Map - 1543



Map - 1565



Map - 1574



Map - 1598



Map - 1623



Map - 1640



Map - 1658



Map - 1678



Map - 1708



Map - 1729



Map - 1748



Map - 1767



Map - 1791



Map - 1805

[Asymmetric]

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World Income



Income - 1399



Income - 1417



Income - 1433



Income - 1457



Income - 1478



Income - 1511



Income - 1523



Income - 1543



Income - 1565



Income - 1574



Income - 1598



Income - 1623



Income - 1640



Income - 1658



Income - 1678



Income - 1708



Income - 1729



Income - 1748



Income - 1767



Income - 1791



Income - 1805




Relative Economic Power of the 10 Surviving Player States from 1417 - 1805

Explanation:

This is simply the relative economic power of the final 10 remaining states in comparson to each other (not the AIs or deceased player nations) over the course of the game. Of course AI states like the Ming, and player nations like Hansa and Italy did make up significant chunks of the world output during there heights but I believe this gives a better anaylse of the ebb and flow of the game.

[Asymmetric]

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World Manpower



Manpower - 1399



Manpower - 1417



Manpower - 1433



Manpower - 1457



Manpower - 1478



Manpower - 1511



Manpower - 1523



Manpower - 1543



Manpower - 1565



Manpower - 1574



Manpower - 1598



Manpower - 1623



Manpower - 1640



Manpower - 1658



Manpower - 1678



Manpower - 1708



Manpower - 1729



Manpower - 1748



Manpower - 1767



Manpower - 1791



Manpower - 1805

[Smowz]

Happy new year to you all!

Definitely looking forward to Wednesday evening.

Good luck with the organisation asymmetric this is looking like it will be a beast to get going.

One plea - I have recently moved house and have a slightly different (should be better) connection is anyone around either tomorrow afternoon or on a weekday evening to test this out for 30 minutes or so.

Also what is the checksum for 4.1b patch?

[Asymmetric]

One plea - I have recently moved house and have a slightly different (should be better) connection is anyone around either tomorrow afternoon or on a weekday evening to test this out for 30 minutes or so.

I'm sure someone will be around. I'm out most of tomorrow though.

Also what is the checksum for 4.1b patch?

EISH is what I'm currently getting for patch 4.1b. (which I've just checked appears to be right)

The 4.1b patch can be found here for those wondering.

[Parasuca]

Got the patch seems like same Cheksom as u. EISH. Hopefuly people patch before wednesday


Most games got problems with people showing up 15 min late and everyone waiting for them like idiots sitting in meta. Any way to fix it? Early bird prise, or just start on time for a change?

[pilis]

Got the patch seems like same Cheksom as u. EISH. Hopefuly people patch before wednesday


Most games got problems with people showing up 15 min late and everyone waiting for them like idiots sitting in meta. Any way to fix it? Early bird prise, or just start on time for a change?

I would love a inflation penalty for players that are more than 5 min late or repeatedly 1-5 min late.

[Asymmetric]

Most games got problems with people showing up 15 min late and everyone waiting for them like idiots sitting in meta. Any way to fix it? Early bird prise, or just start on time for a change?

I would love a inflation penalty for players that are more than 5 min late or repeatedly 1-5 min late.

I'm not implementing any rewards or penalties beyond the constraints of the game.

That said players that turn up continously late risk being grumbled at and more importantly placing their position as a perm under my glare should another less tardy candiate prove willing to take there spot, especially in the early campaign sessions.

You have all been warned

[Smowz]

Following on from my previous post:

Having hardware issues - not too much panic just in the process of switching to a new machine.

Just wondering whether anyone would consider a quick 30 minutes practice session with the 4.1 patch on Tuesday evening say at 2100 cet.

Finally as ridiculous as this might sound is that pesky dark blue world of the metaserver working okay?

[swippy]

Can either Rayzee or VR sub for me on Wednesday?

[Asymmetric]

Just wondering whether anyone would consider a quick 30 minutes practice session with the 4.1 patch on Tuesday evening say at 2100 cet.

If you have your reuter open so you can host, I'll be there to join you. My ports are blocked for hosting at present.

Finally as ridiculous as this might sound is that pesky dark blue world of the metaserver working okay?

I just checked. Although I had to turn my firewall off to get in, it seems to be working fine.


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I'll try to be active over MSN the next couple of days. For those that don't have it yet, it's s0452279.at.sms.ed.ac.uk. If you have any last minute issues now is the time to catch me.

[pilis]

Following on from my previous post:

Having hardware issues - not too much panic just in the process of switching to a new machine.

Just wondering whether anyone would consider a quick 30 minutes practice session with the 4.1 patch on Tuesday evening say at 2100 cet.

Finally as ridiculous as this might sound is that pesky dark blue world of the metaserver working okay?

I can help you.

[Asymmetric]

Revolutionary Champa

Ko Cheng was not a normal King. When others like him of Royal ilk would of been lavishly banqueting on the fruits born from taxation of the peasantry and gentry, he sat in contemplative theological study. Previous Monarchs had left matters of statecraft to the advisors constituting the privy council whom were only to happy to relieve such pressures. Ko Cheng was different. He envisioned an enlightened world in which all men could worship as they chose and where innovation would be rewarded. He gave this new ideology a name, Asymmetry and took the title of Asymmetric for himself, a title that would be held by the head of the Champani State for as long as it endured. As with all great revolutionary's, Ko Cheng did not rest on his laurels and declared his first dictate to Champa, The Vietnamese people and the wider World.

First Dictate of Revolutionary Champa:

Champa shall never in all the years that may come to pass forcefully convert any people to any religion. All men shall be free to worship as they choose.

(i.e. I'm about to try playing 400 years without using a single missionary)

[Cwuelty]

(i.e. I'm about to try playing 400 years without using a single missionary)[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT]

Thats interesting..

[Parasuca]

Revolutionary indeed

[Asymmetric]

Revolutionary indeed

Thats interesting..

[Asymmetric]

Got a confirmed bug that could effect VR/Rayzees Hansa and TheArchdukes Venice in 4.1b.

Here's the decision, from venice.txt:

}

	confirm_thalassocracy = {
		potential = {
			OR = {
				tag = VEN
				tag = GEN
				tag = HSA
			}
			government = merchant_republic
			not = { 
				has_country_modifier = thalassocracy
			}
		}
		allow = {
			overseas_provinces_percentage = 50
			land_naval = 4
		}
		effect = {
			add_country_modifier = {
				name = "thalassocracy"
				duration = -1
			}
		}
		
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
	}
}

The conditions on the decesion is meant to be:

- 50% overseas provinces
- Venice, Hansa or Genoa
- Merchant republic
- 4 naval

but theres a problem....

This line overseas_provinces_percentage = 50 should read 0.5 and not 50, which means 5000% not the intended 50%.

If either Venice or Hansa achieves the intended conditions to fire this at the end of a session we'll just edit it in.

[swippy]

I still need a sub for me on wednesday. If i cant get one, can one of the coop players sub for me?

[Asymmetric]

I still need a sub for me on wednesday. If i cant get one, can one of the coop players sub for me?

I have made it rather clear that I believe no nation needs a co-op during the early years and that should it be required that one of them sub in a perm slot for the intial years if the game demands it of them. One of the draw backs wth being a co-op I'm afraid, you get plenty of other positives.

If none of them step forward and volunteer I will simply select one. Probably one of the Hansa players, that nation really doesn't need 2 pairs of hands for the first session if they are both able to turn up.