Help Contribute with new TechTeams - third step

**Maj. von Mauser** · 24-12-2009 16:22

Code:

14000;Chernomorsky Shipyard;T_UKR_Chernomorsky_Shipyard;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14001;Kharkov Aviation Institute;T_UKR_Kharkov_Aviation_Institute;4;1930;1970;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;fighter_tactics;piloting;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14002;Kharkov Locomotive Factory;T_UKR_Kharkov_Locomotive_Factory;7;1930;1970;artillery;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14003;Kiev Arsenal;T_UKR_Kiev_Arsenal;4;1930;1970;artillery;general_equipment;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14004;Kiev University;T_UKR_Kiev_University;4;1930;1970;chemistry;management;mathematics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14005;Motor Sich;T_UKR_Motor_Sich;5;1930;1970;electronics;general_equipment;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14006;Mykola Kapustiansky;T_UKR_Mykola_Kapustiansky;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14007;Nikolaev Admiralty Shipyard;T_UKR_Nikolaev_Admiralty_Shipyard;4;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14008;Oleg Antonov;T_UKR_Oleg_Antonov;6;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14009;Pavlo Shandruk;T_UKR_Pavlo_Shandruk;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;large_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14010;Sevastopol Naval Institute;T_UKR_Sevastopol_Naval_Institute;4;1930;1970;decentralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;submarine_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14011;Tupolev;T_UKR_Tupolev;5;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14012;Ukrainian Air Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Air_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;piloting;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14013;Ukrainian Naval Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Naval_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Here are the coded TT's for Ukraine, below I have the file with the correctly named Pics:
http://www.2shared.com/file/10211322...0c2/UKRTT.html

To keep the number of teams for both Ukraines even, for Ukraine I have added generic Airforce/Navy TT's. It's not something I really like to do, but there are no leaders for this time period.

Again, before you put the pictures in, I want you first to Delete All the old ones for UKR. Then put these in, there shouldn't be any doubles.

**Admiral Fischer** · 24-12-2009 16:36

Originally Posted by Maj. von Mauser

Code:

14000;Chernomorsky Shipyard;T_UKR_Chernomorsky_Shipyard;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14001;Kharkov Aviation Institute;T_UKR_Kharkov_Aviation_Institute;4;1930;1970;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;fighter_tactics;piloting;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14002;Kharkov Locomotive Factory;T_UKR_Kharkov_Locomotive_Factory;7;1930;1970;artillery;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14003;Kiev Arsenal;T_UKR_Kiev_Arsenal;4;1930;1970;artillery;general_equipment;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14004;Kiev University;T_UKR_Kiev_University;4;1930;1970;chemistry;management;mathematics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14005;Motor Sich;T_UKR_Motor_Sich;5;1930;1970;electronics;general_equipment;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14006;Mykola Kapustiansky;T_UKR_Mykola_Kapustiansky;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14007;Nikolaev Admiralty Shipyard;T_UKR_Nikolaev_Admiralty_Shipyard;4;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14008;Oleg Antonov;T_UKR_Oleg_Antonov;6;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14009;Pavlo Shandruk;T_UKR_Pavlo_Shandruk;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;large_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14010;Sevastopol Naval Institute;T_UKR_Sevastopol_Naval_Institute;4;1930;1970;decentralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;submarine_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14011;Tupolev;T_UKR_Tupolev;5;1930;1970rocketry;aeronautics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14012;Ukrainian Air Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Air_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;piloting;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14013;Ukrainian Naval Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Naval_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Here are the coded TT's for Ukraine, I will add the file, but I need the below images put into the proper format first:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../Ps_emblem.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Vms_emblem.jpg

To keep the number of teams for both Ukraines even, for Ukraine I have added generic Army/Navy TT's. It's not something I really like to do, but there are no leaders for this time period.

Again, before you put the pictures in, I want you first to Delete All the old ones for UKR. Then put these in, there shouldn't be any doubles.

T_UKR_Ukrainian_Naval_Force:

T_UKR_Ukrainian_Air_Force:

**Maj. von Mauser** · 24-12-2009 16:38

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

T_UKR_Ukrainian_Naval_Force:

T_UKR_Ukrainian_Air_Force:

Thank you very much! I'll put them in and upload the file now!

Edit: Okay, they have been added.

**Cardus** · 24-12-2009 16:47

Originally Posted by Maj. von Mauser

Thank you very much! I'll put them in and upload the file now!

Edit: Okay, they have been added.

the pics are not in the required format

**Admiral Fischer** · 24-12-2009 16:49

Originally Posted by Maj. von Mauser

Thank you very much! I'll put them in and upload the file now!

Edit: Okay, they have been added.

Ehm... Didn't you forget to convert .png files to .bmp files. You should open png files by MS Paint and save as bmp.

**Maj. von Mauser** · 24-12-2009 18:27

Okay, they have been fixed.

**Simon1397** · 25-12-2009 01:47

Originally Posted by Cardus

TTs for DDR

Please find below the new coded TTs. As you can see some pics are misssed. Please let me know whether I have to change anything.

Code:

7101;Heinkel Flugzeugwerke;T2;7;1930;1970;aeronautics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7102;Junkers;T4;8;1930;1970;aeronautics;chemistry;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7103;Leuna Werke;T7103;7;1930;1970;chemistry;industrial_engineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7104;Neptun Werft Rostock;T7104;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;electronics;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7105;Rainer Stahel;T7105;4;1930;1970;small_unit_tactics;combined_arms_focus;training;decentralized_execution;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7106;VEB Ernst Thälmann Suhl;T7106;6;1930;1970;general_equipment;mechanics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7107;Gustav Hertz;T7107;7;1930;1970;nuclear_physics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7108;Hans Kahle;T7108;5;1930;1970;large_unit_tactics;infantry_focus;centralized_execution;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7109;Otto Groos;T7109;4;1930;1970;naval_training;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7110;Willi Bredel;T7110;4;1930;1970;aircraft_testing;fighter_tactics;bomber_tactics;piloting;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7111;Helmut Gröttrup;T7111;6;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7112;Warnow Werft Rostock;T7112;6;1930;1970;naval_engineering;technical_efficiency;naval_artillery;electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7113;Eisenacher Motorenwerke;T7100;4;1940;1970;mechanics;industria l_engineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7114;VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden;;7;1940;1970;aeronautics;industrial_e ngineering;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7115;VEB Leuna Werke;;7;1940;1970;chemistry;industrial_engin eering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7116;Neptun Werft Rostock;;5;1940;1970;naval_engineering;electr onics;technical_efficiency;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7117;VEB Fahrzeug und Gerätewerk Simson Suhl;;6;1940;1970;general_equipment;mechanics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7118;Gustav Hertz;;7;1940;1970;nuclear_physics;mathematic s;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7119;Helmut Gröttrup;;6;1940;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;te chnical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7120;Manfred Ardenne;T_DDR_ManfredArdenne;6;1940;1970;mathematics;electronics;nuclear_physics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7121;Deutsche Reichsbahn;T_DDR_DeutscheBahn;5;1940;1970;technical_efficiency; mechanics;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7122;VEB Sachsenring Automobilwerke Zwickau;T_DDR_VEBSachsenringAutomobilwerke;4;1957;1970;mechanics;industrial_eng ineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7123;VEB Volkswerft - Stralsund;T_DEN_KobenhavnsUniversitet;5;1940;1970;naval_engineering;te chnical_efficiency;electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7124;VEB Zeiss Jena;T_DDR_ZeissJena;7;1940;1970;industrial_engineering;mana gement;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7125;Barkas;T_DDR_Barkas;4;1949;1970;mechanics;industrial _engineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7126;Klaus Emil Julius Fuchs;T_DDR_KlausFuchs;6;1940;1970;nuclear_physics;nuclear_en gineering;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7127;Peene - Werft Wolgast;T_DDR_WerftWolgast;4;1948;1970;naval_engineering;naval_ artillery;technical_efficiency;electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7128;Humboldt University of Berlin;T_DDR_HumboldUniversity;4;1940;1970;mathematics;chemistry;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7129;Heinz Hoffmann;;5;1940;1970;training;centralized_execution;large_unit_tactics;infantry_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7130;Willi Stoph;;4;1940;1970;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;infantry_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7131;Waldemar Verner;;4;1940;1970;naval_training;centralized_execution;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7132;VEB Elektro-Apparate-Werke Berlin-Treptow;T_DDR_VEBElektro-Apparate;3;1940;1970;electronics;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7133;VEB Electrical Locomotive Works (LEW);;4;1940;1970;electronics;industria l_engineering;technical_efficiency;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

My apologies if this has been caused by my inexperience at this but I would suggest the following amendments:

7101 delete Heinkel as didn't exist after 1945/in DDR
7102 Junkers should end in 1955 and be replaced by T7114
new picture for Junkers to reflect post war developement

7103 this is the original TT, duplicates T7115 delete one but the name should be pre-fixed VEB
7105 this was to be deleted - see quote below
7106 this is the original TT, duplicates T7117 delete one but the name should be as recorded under T7117
7108 skill -1 and end date of 1947 - see note below
7109 delete - see note below
7110 delete - see note below
7111 this is the original TT, duplicated with 7119, delete one
7112 delete, couldn't find a good RL match for this and new naval teams have been added; if it remains the skill should be reduced to 5 maximum IMO
7114 start date should be 1954/5, as this effectively took over the Junkers T7102 TT, end in RL was 1961 but could be stretched to 1970; new picture for this team

7115 duplicates 7103
7117 duplicates 7106, note different name
7119 duplicates 7111, delete 7119
7128 start date should be 1949
7133 picture attached

Originally Posted by Major von Mauser

First off the existing teams:

7105 Rainer Stahel: Romove completely. He had nothing to do with the communists, and was captured by NKVD in 1944. Died in a Gulag.

7108 Hans Kahle: Bump him down a skill and move his death date to 1947. He fought as an officer for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War, and was also a writer.

7109 Otto Groos: Remove completely. He is a real person, but had nothing to do with the Communists. Commanded the Cruiser Hamburg in the Interbellum, and during the war worked at the Navy Headquarters.

7110 Willi Bredel: Yup, remove him. Nothing to do with Aviation...

Thank you

The handsoff play test is continuing and I will post an update; once Christmas is past I will re-run the test with v1.2 of the updated TT and I'll try to focus on some of the middling powers too.

**kunadam** · 25-12-2009 08:54

Indonesia

DDR

alternative Trabant pictures

a better picture of him in uniform wuold be welcome

**gpg0109** · 25-12-2009 08:54

Merry Christmas for everyone, even who believe it as friday only!

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

I'm okay with these pictures except...

...this one. This picture is already included in your previous proposal as 'Samjiyeon 95th Factory'.

This is a receiver marking on PPsh-41, manufactured in the DPRK in 1949. Original picture is can be found in here. I think this one is better.

oh, that's my mistake. you're really good man!

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

After several games with ahistorical 1936 setup and a few tweaks on tech teams and its reversion during testing, below are my (hopefully) last proposals for KOR and PRK, with minimum changes from latest proposal.

Code:

13500;Bupyeong Arsenal;;4;1934;1970;general_equipment;training;chemistry;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13501;Choi Gyunam;;4;1930;1970;nuclear_physics;chemistry;nuclear_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13502;Choi Yongdeok;;4;1930;1965;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13503;Gojan Arsenal;;4;1940;1955;general_equipment;chemistry;artillery;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13504;Incheon Navy Yard;;4;1930;1970;naval_engineering;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13505;Ji Cheongcheon;;5;1930;1946;infantry_focus;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13506;Jinhae Navy Yard;;4;1930;1970;naval_engineering;electronics;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13507;Korea Atomic Research Institute;;4;1959;1970;nuclear_physics;nuclear_engineering;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13508;Korean Air Force;;4;1930;1970;aeronautics;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13509;Kyeongseong Precision Industry;;4;1944;1970;mechanics;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13510;Laboratory of Army Research and Development Command;;5;1961;1971;artillery;chemistry;mechanics;general_equipment;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13511;Lucky Chemical Industry;;5;1947;1970;mechanics;chemistry;industrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13512;Lee Chunho;;5;1947;1970;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13513;Lee Jongchan;;5;1937;1970;combined_arms_focus;small_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13514;Samsung;;6;1938;1970;electronics;management;industrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13515;Science Laboratory of the Ministry of Defence;;4;1930;1961;artillery;mechanics;technical_efficiency;chemistry;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13516;Seoul National University;;4;1930;1970;mathematics;electronics;chemistry;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13517;Son Wonil;;4;1930;1970;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;naval_training;centralized_execution;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13518;Woo Jangchun;;5;1930;1959;chemistry;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

I just added "chemistry" and "mechanics" speciality to Bupyeong Arsenal. Others should remain in. Historically Bupyeong certainly produced shells for artillery, and also had repairing depot for military vehicles like gun carriage.

Code:

PRK;Name;Pic Name;Skill;Start Year;End Year;Speciality1;Speciality2;Speciality3;Speciality4;Speciality5;Speciality6;Speciality7;Speciality8;Speciality9;Speciality10;Speciality11;Speciality12;Speciality13;Speciality14;Speciality15;Speciality16;Speciality17;Speciality18;Speciality19;Speciality20;Speciality21;Speciality22;Speciality23;Speciality24;Speciality25;Speciality26;Speciality27;Speciality28;Speciality29;Speciality30;Speciality31;Speciality32;x
12600;1st Military Academy;T_Prk_1st;4;1930;1970;training;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;individual_courage;infantry_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12601;65th Factory;T_PRK_65th;4;1930;1970;mechanics;general_equipment;artillery;training;chemistry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12602;Chollima Ironworks;T_PRK_Kangseon;5;1930;1970;chemistry;mechanics;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12603;Do Sangrok;T_PRK_Dosr;5;1930;1970;nuclear_physics;nuclear_engineering;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12604;Gyeomipo Ironworks;T_PRK_Gyeomipo;5;1930;1970;chemistry;mechanics;industrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12605;Heungnam Chemical Plant;T_PRK_Gcplant;5;1930;1970;mechanics;artillery;chemistry;industrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12606;Huicheon Machine Tool Factory;T_PRK_26th;4;1950;1970;general_equipment;mechanics;industrial_engineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12607;Kang Gun;T_PRK_Kangg;4;1930;1950;large_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;individual_courage;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12608;Kim Ilsung University;T_PRK_Kisuniv;3;1930;1970;electronics;chemistry;mathematics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12609;Kim Jeongsuk Naval Academy;T_PRK_Kjsnaval;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;naval_training;submarine_tactics;small_taskforce_tactics;seamanship;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12610;Kiyang Tractor Factory;T_PRK_Kiyang;4;1930;1970;artillery;mechanics;technical_efficiency;chemistry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12611;Korean People's Air Force;T_PRK_Kpaf;4;1930;1970;electronics;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12612;Lee Hwal;T_PRK_Leeh;4;1930;1970;aircraft_testing;fighter_tactics;bomber_tactics;piloting;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12613;Nampo Navy Yard;T_PRK_Nampo;4;1930;1970;electronics;naval_engineering;;naval_artillery;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12614;North Korean Railways;T_PRK_Nkrail;4;1930;1970;mechanics;general_equipment;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12615;Ri Sunggi;T_PRK_Risg;6;1950;1970;chemistry;industrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
12616;Supung Hydroelectric Plant;T_PRK_Supung;5;1937;1950;management;industrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

removed "technical_efficiency" speciality from Ri Sunggi and moved its startdates to 1950, and lowered skills of Supung Hydroelectric Plant to 5 from 6.

By the way, 'Chollima Ironworks' was called as 'Kangseon Steel Mill' before 1960's and 'Gyeomipo Ironworks' was name for 'Hwanghae Ironworks' before Korean independence.

hmm, Excuse me. why Ri Sunggi's start day is 1950? he was invented Vinalon at 1939!

Chollima, i'd understand. but Gyeomipo was named at 1914, and renamed 'after' independence.
note : and almost tumbled down by Korean War, and remanaged from 1958.

**Admiral Fischer** · 25-12-2009 09:17

Originally Posted by gpg0109

hmm, Excuse me. why Ri Sunggi's start day is 1950? he was invented Vinalon at 1939!

Yes he did, but he defected to the DPRK after the Korean war broke out. Also in game test i was able to compete with the Soviet Union in industrial techs research so i had to nerf the two main industrial tech teams.

Originally Posted by gpg0109

Chollima, i'd understand. but Gyeomipo was named at 1914, and renamed 'after' independence.

Please see this article.

**Cardus** · 25-12-2009 11:11

Originally Posted by kunadam

Indonesia

DDR

alternative Trabant pictures

a better picture of him in uniform wuold be welcome

Added. Thank you very much and merry Christmas!

**Cardus** · 25-12-2009 11:28

Originally Posted by Simon1397

My apologies if this has been caused by my inexperience at this but I would suggest the following amendments:

7101 delete Heinkel as didn't exist after 1945/in DDR
7102 Junkers should end in 1955 and be replaced by T7114
new picture for Junkers to reflect post war developement

7103 this is the original TT, duplicates T7115 delete one but the name should be pre-fixed VEB
7105 this was to be deleted - see quote below
7106 this is the original TT, duplicates T7117 delete one but the name should be as recorded under T7117
7108 skill -1 and end date of 1947 - see note below
7109 delete - see note below
7110 delete - see note below
7111 this is the original TT, duplicated with 7119, delete one
7112 delete, couldn't find a good RL match for this and new naval teams have been added; if it remains the skill should be reduced to 5 maximum IMO
7114 start date should be 1954/5, as this effectively took over the Junkers T7102 TT, end in RL was 1961 but could be stretched to 1970; new picture for this team

7115 duplicates 7103
7117 duplicates 7106, note different name
7119 duplicates 7111, delete 7119
7128 start date should be 1949
7133 picture attached

Thank you

The handsoff play test is continuing and I will post an update; once Christmas is past I will re-run the test with v1.2 of the updated TT and I'll try to focus on some of the middling powers too.

Done. Please find below the updated list. Please let me know for any amendment.

Code:

7102;Junkers;T4;7;1930;1955;aeronautics;chemistry;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7104;Neptun Werft Rostock;T7104;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;electronics;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7107;Gustav Hertz;T7107;7;1930;1970;nuclear_physics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7108;Hans Kahle;T7108;4;1930;1947;large_unit_tactics;infantry_focus;centralized_execution;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7111;Helmut Gröttrup;T7111;6;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7112;VEB Warnow Werft Warnemünde;T_DDR_VEBWarnow-WerftWarnemünde;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;technical_efficiency;naval_artillery;electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7113;Eisenacher Motorenwerke;T7100;4;1940;1970;mechanics;industria l_engineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7114;VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden;T_DDR_VEBFlugzeugwerkeDresden;7;1954;1970;aeronautics;industrial_e ngineering;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7115;VEB Leuna Werke;T7103;7;1940;1970;chemistry;industrial_engin eering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7116;VEB Neptun Werft Rostock;T_DDR_VEBSchiffswerftNeptun;5;1940;1970;naval_engineering;electr onics;technical_efficiency;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7117;VEB Fahrzeug und Gerätewerk Simson Suhl;T7106;6;1940;1970;general_equipment;mechanics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7118;Gustav Hertz;;7;1940;1970;nuclear_physics;mathematic s;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7120;Manfred Ardenne;T_DDR_ManfredArdenne;6;1940;1970;mathematics;electronics;nuclear_physics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7121;Deutsche Reichsbahn;T_DDR_DeutscheBahn;5;1940;1970;technical_efficiency; mechanics;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7122;VEB Sachsenring Automobilwerke Zwickau;T_DDR_VEBSachsenringAutomobilwerke;4;1957;1970;mechanics;industrial_eng ineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7123;VEB Volkswerft - Stralsund;T_DDR_VEBVolkswerftStralsund;5;1940;1970;naval_engineering;te chnical_efficiency;electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7124;VEB Zeiss Jena;T_DDR_ZeissJena;7;1940;1970;industrial_engineering;mana gement;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7125;Barkas;T_DDR_Barkas;4;1949;1970;mechanics;industrial _engineering;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7126;Klaus Emil Julius Fuchs;T_DDR_KlausFuchs;6;1940;1970;nuclear_physics;nuclear_en gineering;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7127;Peene - Werft Wolgast;T_DDR_WerftWolgast;4;1948;1970;naval_engineering;naval_ artillery;technical_efficiency;electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7128;Humboldt University of Berlin;T_DDR_HumboldUniversity;4;1949;1970;mathematics;chemistry;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7129;Heinz Hoffmann;T_DDR_Heinz_Hoffmann;5;1940;1970;training;centralized_execution;large_unit_tactics;infantry_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7130;Willi Stoph;T_DDR_Willi_Stoph;4;1940;1970;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;infantry_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7131;Waldemar Verner;T_DDR_Waldemar_Verner;4;1940;1970;naval_training;centralized_execution;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7132;VEB Elektro-Apparate-Werke Berlin-Treptow;T_DDR_VEBElektro-Apparate;3;1940;1970;electronics;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
7133;VEB Electrical Locomotive Works (LEW);;4;1940;1970;electronics;industria l_engineering;technical_efficiency;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Please note:
1) Kept 7112 but with a lower skill
2) Kept the old Junkers' pic until the new one will become avialable
3) Some pics are still missed.

**gpg0109** · 25-12-2009 11:32

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

Yes he did, but he defected to the DPRK after the Korean war broke out. Also in game test i was able to compete with the Soviet Union in industrial techs research so i had to nerf the two main industrial tech teams.

hmm... but i think it will be neglect of his discovery. and he was not kidnapped but gone to NK himself with his family, if there is NK at game, he must represent at NK TT.
...we'll need discussion for event of Korean War after TT's complete.

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

Please see this article.

if you can read Korean, please look this one more time. there is 'same time of independence'(1945년 해방과 동시에 황해제철소로 명칭을 바꾸면서). it means not 'before' independence at least.

**Cardus** · 25-12-2009 12:04

I have to lower the skill of Legnani as he was responsible for a big mistake. It seems in fact that he ordered the removal of the snorkel from Italian?s submarines...

Lo Schnorchel inventato in Italia prima che in Germania

L’ufficiale del Genio navale, ingegnere, Pericle Ferretti aveva studiato negli anni venti un apparato simile allo schnorkel che venne sperimentato con successo sul sommergibile H3 nel 1925. Dopo i buoni risultati la Regia Marina lo adottò e ne chiese il perfezionamento al progettista per installarlo sui sommergibili di nuova costruzione. Il nuovo apparecchio “ML” , per la navigazione subacquea con motori diesel, dopo lunga sperimentazione, doveva essere installato sulla classe “Sirena”. Ma nel 1937 il Comando dei Sommergibili fu assunto dall’ammiraglio Antonio Legnani, che ordinò l’interruzione della produzione degli apparecchi ML e la demolizione di quelli già pronti. Quindi nessuno dei sommergibili italiani poté giovarsi di questo strumento.

from http://www.trentoincina.it/mostrapost.php?id=49

AUTOMATIC TRANSLATION

The Schnorchel first invented in Italy and Germany

The officer of the naval engineering, engineer, Pericles Ferretti had studied in the twenties an apparatus similar to Schnörkel which was successfully tested on the submarine H3 in 1925. After the good results the Royal Navy adopted him and asked the designer to install it on completion of new construction submarines. The new device "ML", for underwater navigation with diesel engines, after much experimentation, was to be installed on the class "Sirena." But in 1937 the Command of submarines was taken by Admiral Antonio Legnani, who ordered the interruption of production equipment ML and the demolition of those already prepared. So none of the Italian submarines could take advantage of this tool.

**Admiral Fischer** · 25-12-2009 12:46

Originally Posted by gpg0109

hmm... but i think it will be neglect of his discovery. and he was not kidnapped but gone to NK himself with his family, if there is NK at game, he must represent at NK TT.

Maybe. But DPRK need to nerfed, and he didn't go to the North Korea until 1950.

Originally Posted by gpg0109

if you can read Korean, please look this one more time. there is 'same time of independence'(1945년 해방과 동시에 황해제철소로 명칭을 바꾸면서). it means not 'before' independence at least.

I don't get your point... Yes, You're right, before the Liberation of Korea it was named as 'Gyeomipo Ironworks', and then, from 1945, 'Hwanghae Ironworks'. and Because of this:

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

...and 'Gyeomipo Ironworks' was name for 'Hwanghae Ironworks' before Korean independence.

@Cardus:

Originally Posted by Cardus

The laboratory is mentioned in his autobiography. A possible alternative would be to set up a tech team named after his professor.

As i said before, IJA Army Fuel laboratory was established on April 28 1945, by the Imperial Decree No. 246 of 1945, and i confirmed this from 'Index of the laws of Japan'. However 'Imperial Japanese Army - and its Organization and Officers-' says that the IJA conducted its own fuel research in 'Army Fuel Depot' until 1945. But i don't know in detail.

**Cardus** · 25-12-2009 13:21

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

@Cardus:
As i said before, IJA Army Fuel laboratory was established on April 28 1945, by the Imperial Decree No. 246 of 1945, and i confirmed this from 'Index of the laws of Japan'. However 'Imperial Japanese Army - and its Organization and Officers-' says that the IJA conducted its own fuel research in 'Army Fuel Depot' until 1945. But i don't know in detail.

Let's be pragmatic on this: we need a TT for that research. The guy is not available since 1930 so we need a replacement. I have proposed his professor or the laboratory. If you don't agree please make your proposal and let's see.

**Cardus** · 25-12-2009 13:24

Originally Posted by Maj. von Mauser

Code:

14000;Chernomorsky Shipyard;T_UKR_Chernomorsky_Shipyard;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14001;Kharkov Aviation Institute;T_UKR_Kharkov_Aviation_Institute;4;1930;1970;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;fighter_tactics;piloting;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14002;Kharkov Locomotive Factory;T_UKR_Kharkov_Locomotive_Factory;7;1930;1970;artillery;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14003;Kiev Arsenal;T_UKR_Kiev_Arsenal;4;1930;1970;artillery;general_equipment;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14004;Kiev University;T_UKR_Kiev_University;4;1930;1970;chemistry;management;mathematics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14005;Motor Sich;T_UKR_Motor_Sich;5;1930;1970;electronics;general_equipment;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14006;Mykola Kapustiansky;T_UKR_Mykola_Kapustiansky;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14007;Nikolaev Admiralty Shipyard;T_UKR_Nikolaev_Admiralty_Shipyard;4;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14008;Oleg Antonov;T_UKR_Oleg_Antonov;6;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14009;Pavlo Shandruk;T_UKR_Pavlo_Shandruk;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;large_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14010;Sevastopol Naval Institute;T_UKR_Sevastopol_Naval_Institute;4;1930;1970;decentralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;submarine_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14011;Tupolev;T_UKR_Tupolev;5;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14012;Ukrainian Air Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Air_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;piloting;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14013;Ukrainian Naval Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Naval_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Here are the coded TT's for Ukraine, below I have the file with the correctly named Pics:
http://www.2shared.com/file/10211322...0c2/UKRTT.html

To keep the number of teams for both Ukraines even, for Ukraine I have added generic Airforce/Navy TT's. It's not something I really like to do, but there are no leaders for this time period.

Again, before you put the pictures in, I want you first to Delete All the old ones for UKR. Then put these in, there shouldn't be any doubles.

Please find below the coded teams and let me know if you are happy with that:

Code:

UKR;Name;Pic Name;Skill;Start Year;End Year;Speciality1;Speciality2;Speciality3;Speciality4;Speciality5;Speciality6;Speciality7;Speciality8;Speciality9;Speciality10;Speciality11;Speciality12;Speciality13;Speciality14;Speciality15;Speciality16;Speciality17;Speciality18;Speciality19;Speciality20;Speciality21;Speciality22;Speciality23;Speciality24;Speciality25;Speciality26;Speciality27;Speciality28;Speciality29;Speciality30;Speciality31;Speciality32;x;
14000;Roman Shukhevych;T_UKR_Roman_Shukhevych;4;1930;1970;individual_courage;decentralized_execution;small_unit_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x;
14001;Zavod Arsenal;T_UKR_Kyiv_Arsenal;4;1930;1970;general_equipment;training;artillery;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x;
14002;Chernomorsky Shipyard;T_UKR_Chernomorsky_Shipyard;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14003;Kharkov Aviation Institute;T_UKR_Kharkov_Aviation_Institute;4;1930;1970;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;fighter_tactics;piloting;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14004;Kharkov Locomotive Factory;T_UKR_Kharkov_Locomotive_Factory;7;1930;1970;artillery;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14005;Kiev Arsenal;T_UKR_Kiev_Arsenal;4;1930;1970;artillery;general_equipment;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14006;Kiev University;T_UKR_Kiev_University;4;1930;1970;chemistry;management;mathematics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14007;Motor Sich;T_UKR_Motor_Sich;5;1930;1970;electronics;general_equipment;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14008;Mykola Kapustiansky;T_UKR_Mykola_Kapustiansky;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;small_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14009;Nikolaev Admiralty Shipyard;T_UKR_Nikolaev_Admiralty_Shipyard;4;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14010;Oleg Antonov;T_UKR_Oleg_Antonov;6;1930;1970;rocketry;aeronautics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14011;Pavlo Shandruk;T_UKR_Pavlo_Shandruk;4;1930;1970;infantry_focus;large_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14012;Sevastopol Naval Institute;T_UKR_Sevastopol_Naval_Institute;4;1930;1970;decentralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;submarine_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14013;Tupolev;T_UKR_Tupolev;5;1930;1970;aeronautics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;rocketry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14014;Ukrainian Air Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Air_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;piloting;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
14015;Ukrainian Naval Force;T_UKR_Ukrainian_Naval_Force;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;small_taskforce_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

**Admiral Fischer** · 25-12-2009 13:43

Originally Posted by Cardus

Let's be pragmatic on this: we need a TT for that research. The guy is not available since 1930 so we need a replacement. I have proposed his professor or the laboratory. If you don't agree please make your proposal and let's see.

If we need techteam for agrichemistry research then Mitsubishi Jukogyo is enough IMO. If we need techteam for Synthetic fuel then:

19xx;Hokkaido Jinzousekiyu Kabushikigaisha(or Hokkaido Artificial Petroleum Corporation);T_JAP_Hokkaido;;1939;1970;chemistry;i ndustrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;x

this team should work.

**gpg0109** · 25-12-2009 14:45

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

Maybe. But DPRK need to nerfed, and he didn't go to the North Korea until 1950.

if stick him at 1950, he has no use because there's no tech he can research (on vanila).

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

I don't get your point... Yes, You're right, before the Liberation of Korea it was named as 'Gyeomipo Ironworks', and then, from 1945, 'Hwanghae Ironworks'.

hmm. if i being rude, sorry. it's my mistake from misunderstand.

**Cardus** · 25-12-2009 16:50

Originally Posted by Admiral Fischer

If we need techteam for agrichemistry research then Mitsubishi Jukogyo is enough IMO. If we need techteam for Synthetic fuel then:

19xx;Hokkaido Jinzousekiyu Kabushikigaisha(or Hokkaido Synthetic Fuel Corporation);T_JAP_Hokkaido;;1939;1970;chemistry;i ndustrial_engineering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;x

this team should work.

I'm fine with that. I have coded this team with skill 5.

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