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    Quote Originally Posted by great_chairman View Post
    One does realize, of course, that Head of State is a ceremonial position. Even if it were not, the Hohenzollern track record so far has generally inspired confidence in our Kaiser - Germany united, World War won, currently strongest nation in the world.
    And just what role, pray tell, did the Kaisers play in those?

    It was Bismarck who - under the pretense of creating a German Fatherland - incorporated the German states into a Prussian empire.

    It was the Kaiser who dragged us into the Weltkrieg, and the soldiers - composed of the proletarians and peasants - who marched us to victory.

    It was the liberalisation of the German political structure, removing the Kaiser's claws from the jugular of the nation, which has resulted in our present state of affairs.

    The fact is, it was the statesmen and politicians - not the monarchy - who are responsible for our status. As with the infantile fantasy of an imaginary friend, we should cast off this imperial oppressor and rid ourselves of the Hohenzollern despots once and for all.

    Think of it as a long overdue punishment for their violent suppression of the 1849 Constituent Assembly.

    Quote Originally Posted by C_c View Post
    Except there are already social safety nets in place, courtesy Bismark's social reforms, which include: Health Insurance; Accident Insurance (Workman’s Compensation); Disability Insurance; and an Old-age Retirement Pension.
    They do not go far enough.

    Bismarck implemented those policies in order to appease the liberal elements in the United Diet, and his lack of passion shows; these measures are shallow and superficial.

    For example, the UGSA will introduce policies which provide economic and advisory support to those who are currently unemployed but seeking employment. Under the Bismarckian system, these people have been allowed to slip through the cracks of society, depriving our economy of viable labourers and increasing the level of unemployment. By providing them with enough sustenance to maintain a basic quantity of life and training courses to promote skills, we will be able to move these abandoned elements back into employment and bolster our economy; measures in the short-run with benefits in the long-run.
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    Awesome idea, can't wait for the actual election to kick things off.

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    VILenin how can you use that user name and avatar if you are supporting the fasicist democracts. TRAITOR!!!!

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    There wasn't any social group to join when I checked a few days ago.
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    ok good CCA we still have an alliance as the Untied Leftist Front don't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMAS-Nameless View Post
    ok good CCA we still have an alliance as the Untied Leftist Front don't we?
    Yep - our front against the forces of fascism will carry on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_chairman View Post
    Please, do explain why we have the single best social welfare programs in the world ever since Bismarck's time. True, our worker still pay part fees for doctors, where half is paid by the employer and half is paid by the employee. But would the German people prefer the current system, with the best doctors in the world, or the Syndicalist system, where a doctor is paid as much as a factory worker?

    Value is quality divided by price. If you don't have any quality, no matter how low your price goes, you won't have good value.
    And why do you assume if, instead of the workers paying half of these, the state would be paying them (in order to provide a great health care system for all, because people lives are above capitalistic profit!

    What I want is not a health care system free, but with lower quality:

    I want the great doctors we have today to be free!!!
    And, believe me, for our beloved ones who can't afford it, in case of an emergency, a bad (as you say they will suddenly become, explain this to me pls) doctor is better than no doctor.... Ofcourse, if you were very rich (and belong to these 5% of the population), ofcourse you would prefer the current system....


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    Quote Originally Posted by CCA View Post
    Yep - our front against the forces of fascism will carry on!
    Great, comrade! We shall crush the Capitalist scum! I think that together we should run a propaganda campaign for the United Leftist Front! One vote for GLP and One vote for the ABNB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMAS-Nameless View Post
    Great, comrade! We shall crush the Capitalist scum! I think that together we should run a propaganda campaign for the United Leftist Front! One vote for GLP and One vote for the ABNB!
    German brothers and sisters, beware the syndicalist devil is showing its ugly head!
    Their workers paradise is nothing but lies.
    Look at what happened to France, and Britain. Millions of honest workers are suffering there, ruthlessly exploited by demagogues!

    Don't fall for extremists, listen to voice of reason.
    We the liberal Centrists, will defend our german prosperity and virtues.
    We'll defend freedom and a fair deal towards the working class.
    The labourers are the lifeblood of our industry and we won't forget it!

    Choose wisely, vote LCP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karaiskandar View Post
    Don't fall for extremists, listen to voice of reason.
    We the liberal Centrists, will defend our german prosperity and virtues.
    We'll defend freedom and a fair deal towards the working class.
    The labourers are the lifeblood of our industry and we won't forget it!

    Choose wisely, vote LCP!
    The German workers don't want just a "fair deal" with the capitalists!!! We have seen, tested them all these years, have found out what you mean by fair: The 5% of people get the 90% of what is produced, and the rest are just working...

    You want to listen to a fair deal? The workers are the ones producing, so the workers should be enjoying what they produce!!!

    Why do you need the capitalists? The are producing nothing, they are only enjoying what we are producing!!! Why should they just sit in their great chairs, command the rest and get richer and richer by capitalizing what we produce? Just get them work as the rest, and get their rich to improve the life of all of us!!!

    German people, the centralists are just trying to protect what they currently own, they say they may accept some of your demands but "in reasonable limits"! REASONABLE IS WHAT YOU NEED, reasonable is the need to be able to live and die with dignity, reasonable is to want your children to live better than you, and not the same bad life.....

    DON"T FALL IN THE CENTRALISTS TRAP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guardian21 View Post
    The German workers don't want just a "fair deal" with the capitalists!!! We have seen, tested them all these years, have found out what you mean by fair: The 5% of people get the 90% of what is produced, and the rest are just working...

    You want to listen to a fair deal? The workers are the ones producing, so the workers should be enjoying what they produce!!!

    Why do you need the capitalists? The are producing nothing, they are only enjoying what we are producing!!! Why should they just sit in their great chairs, command the rest and get richer and richer by capitalizing what we produce? Just get them work as the rest, and get their rich to improve the life of all of us!!!

    German people, the centralists are just trying to protect what they currently own, they say they may accept some of your demands but "in reasonable limits"! REASONABLE IS WHAT YOU NEED, reasonable is the need to be able to live and die with dignity, reasonable is to want your children to live better than you, and not the same bad life.....

    DON"T FALL IN THE CENTRALISTS TRAP!

    SUPPORT THE "United Leftist Front
    Your revolution is THE TRAP.
    Look at France, and Britain!
    Your revolution will only bring war, disorder and poverty!

    Thanks to our fair capitalist welfare system, the German workers are the richest in the world, don't you know that?
    Of course there are inequalities but we will work to reduce them, without bringing chaos.
    We'll reform, with patience and good sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karaiskandar View Post
    Don't fall for extremists, listen to voice of reason.
    We the liberal Centrists, will defend our german prosperity and virtues.
    We'll defend freedom and a fair deal towards the working class.
    The labourers are the lifeblood of our industry and we won't forget it!

    Choose wisely, vote LCP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by great_chairman View Post
    One does realize, of course, that Head of State is a ceremonial position.
    So even although Kaiser is the most important man in Germany, his position is only ceremonial? He's only a figurehead?

    You are indeed followers of Bismarck, and just as he, you use the Kaiser as a puppet for your own goals.

    I would also like to announce that Reichsfront no longer exists. It will exist till the elections, after that it will close down completely.


    The party closed down after all the members left the party looking for that exact power PCP has to offer. Power of using the Kaiser to forward your goals. I hope you know what you are doing Germany, because for me it looks like a way to a dictatorship by powers from behind the curtain.
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    German Citizens!


    First of all, Long Live the Kaiser who brought us so much welfare. All hail to the great Bismarck who brought us so much social security and all hail to our military commanders who brought us victory in the Weltkrieg.

    Dear Citizens! Our nation is endangered from the inside. The socialists and syndicalists who did nothing for you but bad things, think they can gain your vote by promising equality and justice! How will they accomplish that if that is already here in Germany! Furthermore, look what they have done in Britain and France. Poverty and chaos! Criminals and liars rule the country! Do you want to live in such country? No Democracy? No freedom? Think before you act. Labourers you will be treated right by the PCP! YOU Will gain something instead of losing. Soldiers! YOU Will be glorious with the PCP and not with the Syndicalists! Extremists will only cause trouble for our nation! Who led us to victory in the Weltkrieg: The Kaiser! The man who brought you peace and prosperity! And now the Socialists want him gone! SAY NO TO SYNDYCALISTS! For a prosperous Germany! Long Live the Kaiser! Long Live Germany!

    There is only one solution to the Syndicalist problem: VOTE PCP!!!

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    You want this to happen to Germany??? NO? VOTE PCP!!!!

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    First of all, Long Live the Kaiser who brought us so much welfare. All hail to the great Bismarck who brought us so much social security and all hail to our military commanders who brought us victory in the Weltkrieg.

    Dear Citizens! Our nation is endangered from the inside. The socialists and syndicalists who did nothing for you but bad things, think they can gain your vote by promising equality and justice! How will they accomplish that if that is already here in Germany! Furthermore, look what they have done in Britain and France. Poverty and chaos! Criminals and liars rule the country! Do you want to live in such country? No Democracy? No freedom? Think before you act. Labourers you will be treated right by the PCP! YOU Will gain something instead of losing. Soldiers! YOU Will be glorious with the PCP and not with the Syndicalists! Extremists will only cause trouble for our nation! Who led us to victory in the Weltkrieg: The Kaiser! The man who brought you peace and prosperity! And now the Socialists want him gone! SAY NO TO SYNDYCALISTS! For a prosperous Germany! Long Live the Kaiser! Long Live Germany!

    [There is only one solution to the Syndicalist problem: VOTE PCP!!!

    So, you are suggesting that right now there is equality and freedom in Germany? Go ask any worker in one of our industries, does he feel equal with his boss? Is he paid the same? Can he live in a similar manner?
    Go ask anyone if he feels equal with the Kaiser (even you are saying he is above us all)! Did you see the Kaiser risking his life, fighting in the first line, getting killed??? NO, the workers are the ones who suffered all these! Would the military commanders succeed in anything if it weren't for the simple soldiers, the labourers, the peasent who fought truly bravely while the commanders were watching from the behind?
    Where is freedom when for whatever you do, you need to pay, to pay more, so that someone profits, while you are struggling to survive?

    IS THIS WHAT YOU CALL EQUALITY AND FREEDOM??? IS DEMOCRACY ABOUT HAVING ONE KAISER UNTIL HE DIES????

    WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO BE REALLY FREE, having BOTH THE OPTION and THE ABILITY to do what they want!
    We want everyone to be EQUAL, and not be considered better because his father has money/ is an officer in the army!
    We want to be able to vote on matters, vote some to represent us in other matters, but, also, BE ABLE TO RECALL THEM if they are not doing good!


    GERMAN PEOPLE! YOU WILL ONLY SEE BERLIN DESTROYED IF YOU FOLLOW THE CENTRALISTS OR THE RIGHTISTS INTO WARS WHICH GAIN NOTHING BUT DEATH FOR YOU, BUT MILLIONS FOR THEM!!!!....

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    Way to go Comrade Councillor! Remember for true equality vote one vote for the ABNB (Anarcho-Bolshevik National Liberation movement) and one vote for the German Labour Party! or the United German Socialist Alliance!


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    Listen not to the RED DEVILS!

    They would lead Germany to death and destruction! They would destroy German RELIGION! They would eliminate German KULTUR! They would remove our beloved KAISER!

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    Comrades! Workers!

    While the UGSA's passion for the plight of the german workers is genuine, they are clearly too extreme, too volatile, to form a responsible government truly capable of caring for the german worker! Especially their democratic credentials are strongly in doubt! That said, of course, we welcome their genuine passion for, and love of, the german worker, although we offer our heartfelt hope that it will be channeled into more productive and less violent forms!

    Who led us to victory in the Weltkrieg: The Kaiser! The man who brought you peace and prosperity! And now the Socialists want him gone! SAY NO TO SYNDYCALISTS! For a prosperous Germany! Long Live the Kaiser! Long Live Germany!
    The Kaiser brought us INTO the welkrieg, and in doing so killed millions of german workers! He ignored the plight of the german workers as he glutted himself on the food stolen from their shaking hands! The Kaiser should keep his hands off politics! Only the german people can decide the fate of Germany, not some blue-blooded aristocrat!

    Your revolution is THE TRAP.
    Look at France, and Britain!
    Your revolution will only bring war, disorder and poverty!
    Indeed! Which is why the German Labour Party offers a DIFFERENT revolution! A peaceful revolution! A revolution of JUSTICE and not merely strength of arms! A revolution that does not eat it's children! One that is built on cooperation and legal change, on making germany a worthy home for ALL germans and not on bloodshed and destruction!

    Vote for the German Labour Party: A REVOLUTION WITHOUT TERROR!

    We of course, respect all the democratic voices of Germany, but realize that WE have the true voice of Germany behind us, and that those not deluded into false consciousness will eventually come to support our point of view. It is our hope that the liberals who are not too blinded by their class will eventually realize that the German Labour Party offers the greatest chance for peaceful, stable development and social justice!
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    This is what happened in the so called socialist countries of France and Britain.

    There is equality and freedom in Germany at the moment. With the PCP we plan to enlarge the education for the youth in Germany. Everyone deserves a chance in Germany! Bismarck was the first in Germany to implement the social security and welfare programmes. Have you been worse off than before? NO! Vote PCP!

    The Kaiser is above the rest of Germany, but would you suggest that the so called workers soviet is equal to the normal workers? Or the premier of Britain is equal to the common farmer? No of course not!

    We all have our places and our opportunities! We are all equal in spirit. We are all equal as persons. Only our positions are different and our beloved Kaiser has that position. Does this mean that there is no chance for the common farmer? No of course not! The PCP offers a large education program, more work opportunities, a chance for every person to completely use his abilities for Germany. Be it in the army, the navy, at the farm or in the government!

    We do not need the so called worker councils to rule the country! We have a stable government, our country is the strongest on Earth! Look at Britain, look at France: Misery and Destruction, Unhappiness and Poverty! Say No to Syndicalists, vote PCP to ensure peace and prosperity!

    Vote PCP for a glorious Germany with opportunity for everyone!

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