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How do I get to said social group? Sorry... maybe its obvious but I don't know.

The 'join LCP now' part of my sig is a link to our social group. You can join from there.

Seems JRHINDO beat me to the answer.
 
(JRHINDO your ad made me read the pages and for that ad i will vote for the other parties. :D)
 
Hey what are the parties' policy on the entente revanchists?
(attempt at freshness)

That of undeclared hostility. They want to destroy Germany and reinstall their own hegemony. PCP believes that one day there will be war against Entente but Germany will not start it, only end it. Entente is one step above the Syndicalists. It would be ideal if Syndicalists and Entente would fight against each other and Germany would pick up pieces, thus resulting German dominance over world politics.
 
That of undeclared hostility. They want to destroy Germany and reinstall their own hegemony. PCP believes that one day there will be war against Entente but Germany will not start it, only end it. Entente is one step above the Syndicalists. It would be ideal if Syndicalists and Entente would fight against each other and Germany would pick up pieces, thus resulting German dominance over world politics.

I think we would all agree here, exept for the syndicalist themselves.
 
I think we would all agree here, exept for the syndicalist themselves.

See! We are already establishing consensus over politics, even before first elections :rofl: . (Before you ask, Finnish politics have been for past 50 or so years a horrible consensus bull where all parties drive more or less same kind of policy.)
 
If they have the same policy, let them join the front against Syndicalists and the Iron fist. On other points we can always come to an agreement right? So let us start cooperate and make Germany Glorious again!

Tim
 
Alright, I'm off to Germany, for snowboarding and irresponsible alcohol consumption!

I urge everyone to keep the debates civilized and to stick to the Rules, without monitoring this thread could very bad very fast.

Beefing your posts counter is always good, but to gain maximum success in gathering votes use sensible arguments and start new discussions, like the PCP...

We'll be back around the 27th, so in advance:
Merry Christmas AARland!

Ho ho ho and all that.

Cheers,

-Laurence, Totally Random Productions
 
German Social Democratic Labour party

(Socialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands)


LEADER: Vorsitzender: Arilou

The German Labour party is the heir of the german social democratic tradition, founded in 1875 it remains the strongest advocate of democratic socialism in Germany. It stands for an expanded welfare state, the protection of social and civil rights, the strengthening of democratic principles against unelected or authoritarian elements, progressive taxation and the eradication of class differences and entrenched class privilege through peaceful and democratic means.

The german labour party seeks to protect most notably the right of german workers to organize themselves into unions, to protect their right to work and their right to fair pay, healthcare and in general the rights to a decent life, unlike the right-wing bourgeisie we recognize the economic plight and economic rights of the german citizen and vow to redress them!

Unlike the misguided syndicalists however, we also recognize the civil and political rights of the german worker; And that rights such as freedom of speech, right to assemble and similar are crucial pillars in the building of a true society. While liberals and conservatives ignore the poverty of the workers, and the syndicalists ignore their political rights, the Social Democratic Party vows to protect them both! Especially against the venomous far-right who would trample upon all these rights in the service of misguided militarism and thirst for blood!

We seek peace for Germany, not merely the outer peace of the lack of bullets, but the inner peace of tranquility and harmony: To let the german people flourish in peace and to eradicate the barriers of oppression that are laid upon them!

Arilou, Chairman

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PARTY MANIFESTO


GOVERNANCE

1. The role of the Kaiser being a relic of the feudal past, the first step of any social democratic government would be to restrict his governing powers. Reducing him to the ceremonial role of national representation that he is best suited to fulfilling, of highest importance is limiting the Kaiser's ability to interfere in foreign affairs, so as to prevent such policies as led to the Weltkrieg. In the longer term the institution of the monarchy should be abolished, although this is a long-term goal and not something that needs to be executed at this particular time.

2. The strengthening of parliamentary control of the government, first and foremost by making the government directly representative to parliament and not to the Kaiser.

3. Universal and equal suffrage for men and women, both in national and länder-elections.

4. The establishment of a committee for reviewing the economy, with possible nationalization of certian key industries.

5. The creation of a progressive taxation system

6. The expansion of a universal healthcare, education and pension system: The promotion of industry, the protection of the rights of union members and the creation of unemployment benefits for those whom the capitalist system has deprived of the opportunity to earn their livelyhood.


FOREIGN AFFAIRS

1. Seek to maintain peace and balance, especially by negotiations. The fostering of greater trade and international contacts on the cultural, personal and economic level between countries.
2. Recognizing that Germany should be a voice for peace and moderation, that attempts be made to mediate in the various conflicts that wrack our globe.
3. Strengthened relationships with the democratic countries of the world.
4. The military budget should be slightly increased, so as to better be able to protect the german motherland, but offensive weapons should be limited: Inhumane weapons such as strategic bombers should be abolished.
5. Support for democratic regimes around the globe
6. Recognizing the gross hippocriscy of keeping the german people fed on the backs of oppressed africans and asiatics, the Social Democratic party advocates that strong measure be taken for the preparation for these areas under german trusteeship for independence. This should include the education of native civil servants, and the establishment of a school system and economic activity in these areas. (respecting the full reliigous and cultural sensibilities of the native peoples) the fate of these areas should then be determined by plebiscite, to see if they wish independence, continued union with Germany, and what form this independence should take. These plebiscites shall be held no later than 30 years from now.


- Military doctrine
The Social Democratic Labour party views the creation of a decentralized conscript army as the most important aspect, this army should utilize superior firepower in order to minimize casualties.

- Mitteleuropean Policy
Germany should work to promote democracy and social justice within Mitteleuropa, economic and cultural ties should be deepened and the rights of minorities protected. Plebiscites should be held in order to determine the status of disputed areas. The hope of the SPD is that eventually Mitteleuropa can be turned into a federal structure for greater european cooperation, a "Union of Europe" to promote peace and prevent the outbreak of another Weltkrieg

- Relations with the Syndicalists
The Syndicalist powers are an aggressive threat, but one that should be dissuaded through negotiation and a strong defensive posture; Not aggression and warmongering. Recognizing the sovereignity of the syndicalist states we should strive to promote democracy in these flawed regimes. Trade links should be fostered, and discussions should be held to resolve outstanding issues.

- Relations with the Entente

The Entente contains the remnants of an old autocratic, class-based order. Nonetheless some of their members, such as Canada, provides a shining example of democratic leadership. The SPD thus advocates a careful detente, and the hope of reconciliation between the entente and the syndicalists.

- Other foreign policy issues
The SPD especially advocates close cooperation with the United States, with any democratic russian forces and with democratic countries worldwide. We also encourage economic aid to struggling and developing countries.

- German territorial claims
Germany holds no territorial claims on any other power, she is satisfied and united, although should our austrian brothers wish to join the german fatherland they will certainly be welcomed! The creation of a federal structure for the Mitteleuropa should be encouraged, and it is the hope of the SPD that eventually the scandinavian and other countires will eventually join this structure.​
 
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Alright, I'm off to Germany, for snowboarding and irresponsible alcohol consumption!

I urge everyone to keep the debates civilized and to stick to the Rules, without monitoring this thread could very bad very fast.

Beefing your posts counter is always good, but to gain maximum success in gathering votes use sensible arguments and start new discussions, like the PCP...

We'll be back around the 27th, so in advance:
Merry Christmas AARland!

Ho ho ho and all that.

Cheers,

-Laurence, Totally Random Productions

Have fun in Germany!
 
People have too much fun being megalomaniacal :p JOIN THE SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC LABOUR PARTY! FOR FREEDOM! JUSTICE! EQUALITY!
 
That brings us to new points to discuss: social affairs, economic affairs and education. What do the other parties think of this?

These are the views of the LCP:

Economy: the economy is currently being dominated by large conglomerates, strangling the small, innovative businesses. We propose anti-trust laws, opening up the market for fair competition. We favour the free market over a planned economy like the syndicalist would have it, but we state that the government has a task in keeping competition honest and preventing abuse.
We wish to stress the importance of an modern industry too, centered around innovation and industrialisation.

Social affairs: the labourers are the lifeblood of our industry, yet some of them struggle to feed their families. We believe in a fair deal towards the working class, with decent wages and social welfareprogrammes being guaranteed or implemented.

Education: All Germans should be able to furfill their full potential, lack of money may not be the reason why bright but poor Germans cannot follow an education. The government must invest in these bright young minds, for the sake of all our futures.
 
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Our economic policy has already been amply covered, but as for social and education policy:

Education:

Education up to and including university level should be free. The school system should be harmonized across the Länder. It should encourage the personal growth of our students as well as provide them with useful skills for the future and give the students the tools they need to be responsible citizens. The rights of minorities to study and speak their own language in addition to german should be protected.

Social Affairs:

The cultural rights of minorities should be strengthened and improved. As shall the rights of women. Maternity leave and government child-support should be introduced (including government-sponsored daycare for working mothers) A program of building modern, clean and efficient housing should be introduced.
 
I don't know how smart is the move of the Alexists towards moderatism, because if they succeed they will simply become another Right/Conservative party, and PCP already dominates that section of the voters.
By being extreme, they cover a niche. Not many voters, but assured voters which don't want logic and reason, but INSANITY and OVER THE TOP GLORY. And that's not bad. The only problem is that by concentrating on GLORY group, they are concentrating on a bit shorter attention span group than groups of other parties, so their following of the political campaign is bound to wane after first couple of days, which is why they'll need a vigorous last minute campaign right before voting. They also have the advantage of a coalition which basically doubles their votes.
Also, I think PCP needs o seriously consider coalition with another party. Possibly Reichfront or DVNP, though later might be a bit too progressive for them. PCP could easily be strongest single party, but suffer humiliating defeat, because it overlooked coalition system.

Also I have a question. Will there be a possibility for post election coalition governments. For example, PCP realises it doesn't have necessary votes, so they form government with RF or DVNP. In that kind of situation it's the smaller party that ussualy has the upper hand at extorting positions in the government.
 
Hmmm, seems like there's a decent amount of common ground with the liberals.
 
I don't know how smart is the move of the Alexists towards moderatism, because if they succeed they will simply become another Right/Conservative party, and PCP already dominates that section of the voters.
By being extreme, they cover a niche. Not many voters, but assured voters which don't want logic and reason, but INSANITY and OVER THE TOP GLORY. And that's not bad. The only problem is that by concentrating on GLORY group, they are concentrating on a bit shorter attention span group than groups of other parties, so their following of the political campaign is bound to wane after first couple of days, which is why they'll need a vigorous last minute campaign right before voting. They also have the advantage of a coalition which basically doubles their votes.
Also, I think PCP needs o seriously consider coalition with another party. Possibly Reichfront or DVNP, though later might be a bit too progressive for them. PCP could easily be strongest single party, but suffer humiliating defeat, because it overlooked coalition system.

Also I have a question. Will there be a possibility for post election coalition governments. For example, PCP realises it doesn't have necessary votes, so they form government with RF or DVNP. In that kind of situation it's the smaller party that ussualy has the upper hand at extorting positions in the government.

The PCP is already in a coalition with the Reichsfront and DNVP, and we share much common ground with the Liberals ;) Everything is best in moderation.
 
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