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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by kunadam View Post
    Yes 6 specialty is wrong. I did the coding, mea culpa.
    Scrapt naval training for sure. But I will check it at home (no Editor here at work )
    Hi kunadam, don't worry nobody is perfect here. The good thing is that we are going to check again and if it required amend the teams have been proposed. With regards the new proposals could you please provide your opinion? For example, as I mentioned earlier, I think that you are in a better position to assess whether the Romanian team is fine or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardus View Post
    Regarding Leopold Ružička he retired in 1957 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_Ru%C5%BEi%C4%8Dka). I guess that skill 6-7 should be fine. He was a Nobel laureate so I would assign to him 7. I'm fine as well with the proposed specialities: chemistry and training. Before coding him I would like to know the opinion of someone else.

    The convention is to have max one university when is not possible to find any suitable tech team. I doubt that this is the case for Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by Fancykiller65 View Post
    Just pick one of them. I put two to let you decide.
    I would like to avoid coding an University. Such as generic tech team is unavoidable when there aren't many alternatives but this is not the case for Switzerland I think. As you are from that country could you please do some more research?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioniere View Post
    Serbia
    Milan Nedić

    Skill level 5
    Starting year 1941 - 1956
    Infantry focus, large unit tactics, centralized execution and training.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Nedi%C4%87#Serbia

    Draža Mihailović
    Skill level 6 1941 – 1970

    Small unit’s tactics, decentralised exec, training, management and infantry focus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dra%C5%...%87#Early_life
    I had a look at them but I would lower the skill to 3 and 4 respectively. I won't code them before having received a feedback from somebody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kunadam View Post
    Yes 6 specialty is wrong. I did the coding, mea culpa.
    Scrapt naval training for sure. But I will check it at home (no Editor here at work )
    The company was a large shipping company that IIRC also trained captains and seamen. Furthermore it owned and operated a very productive and innovative ship yard (Odense Staalskips Vaerft, called Lindoe Vaerftet now a days) that produced (and still do) some of the largest civilian ships at the time (and a few warships). Therefore I would give it:

    Management (the shipping part)
    Naval training and Seamanship (the training part)
    Naval engineering and Technical Efficiency (the ship yard bit)

    Scrap mechanics that part doesn't make sense. Alternatively if you think naval training and seamanship is weird centralized and decentralized execution might be considered. The company was and is famous for the training of leaders and their management style and it would make them good at researching logistics which they should be (being a large shipping company).

    Sources:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odense_Steel_Shipyard

    Finally please remeber to combine denmarks, norways and swedens tech teams for scandinavia please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardus View Post
    I would like to avoid coding an University. Such as generic tech team is unavoidable when there aren't many alternatives but this is not the case for Switzerland I think. As you are from that country could you please do some more research?

    All,

    Any opinion on Leopold Ružička?
    I'm not from that country, but will keeping looking up stuff.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Fancykiller65 View Post
    I'm not from that country, but will keeping looking up stuff.
    Ok. I thought that because of your avatar

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    TTs Austria

    All,

    As you can see Austria is poorly represented in HOI2. I made a research on Austria and for the time being please find below my findings/suggestions:

    Rename Hirtenberger into Otto Eberhardt Patronenfabrik
    remove aeronautics and artillery and assign mechanics and industrial engineering.

    Reason: the company was focussed on cartridge and metal fabrication
    ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Eb...Patronenfabrik


    Add "Hirtenberger - Hopfner" with skill 3 and specialities aeronautics, electronics, technical efficiency

    Reason: Otto Eberhardt Patronenfabrik also purchased the assets of the Hopfner aircraft company and had continued production of both de Havilland- and Siemens-powered aircraft under the Hirtenberg brand. As it produced only a training/touring aircraft I would add this to bring the skilled down.

    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirtenberg_HS.9

    pic http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/aus...erg_hs-9-m.jpg



    Rename Pintsch into Pintsch Bamag AG and think whether such a team can be used because produced civilian stuff and it is well know because of the alarm sirens
    http://www.pintschbamag.com/History.83.0.html


    Replace Pintsch with Österreichische Luftstreitkräfte adding chemistry as speciality but lowering the skill to 3

    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria...rce_(1927-1938)
    pic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ro..._Air_Force.svg


    Add Multimatic 1957-1969
    skill 5, specialities industrial efficiency, management, general equipment

    Add Magna 1969-1970
    skill 6, specialities industrial efficiency, management, general equipment, electronics

    reason: merge with Magna electronics

    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_International


    Steyr
    1) decrease the level to 5
    2) remove general equipment and traning
    3) add artillery, technical efficiency and electronics to Steyr because of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADGZ

    Add a new team Puch, skills 5, specialities: general equipment, traning, mechanics

    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puch

    pic


    Add Gesellschaft Österreichischer Chemiker skill 5 specialities: chemistry, management, industrial engineering

    pic
    ref http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesells...scher_Chemiker

    Add Erwin Schrödinger 1930-1939
    skill 7, specialities nuclear engineering, nuclear_physics
    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger

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    pic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Er...hrodinger2.jpg

    Add Anselm Franz 1930-1970 skill 6 specialities rocketry, aeronautics
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_Franz
    pic

    He should be skilled 7 or 8 but the aeronautics and rocketry in Austria was in a bad shape.
    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_Franz

    Add Kurt Gödel 1930-1939 skill 7 speciality mathematics
    great matematician he deserves 9 but not for cryptography

    ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del
    pic


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Gr%C3%B6bner

    I wanted to find a specific tech team for cryptography but I couldn't. In my research I found Wolfgang Gröbner ( an Austrian mathematician. His name is best known for the Gröbner basis, used for computations in algebraic geometry and hence for cryptography ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Gr%C3%B6bner) and Bruno Buchberger which developed a particular field on cryptography (ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Buchberger). As they are/were based in Graz please find below a new tech team: Technische Universität Graz

    skill 4, specialities mathematics, electronics, mechanics, chemistry

    pic

    ref http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/unichor/unisE.html
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    Aker mekaniske and Norsk Hydro

    Esay1: Do you think you can find an other image for Aker? The current one is the logo of the firm Aker ASA, which has little to do with Akers Mekaniske Verksted (e.g. Aker ASA has sold Aker Yards, and the current logo is less than 15 years old). An earlier logo was http://dcdevine.files.wordpress.com/...jpg?w=128&h=55, but that one could also be from after 1970.

    Quote Originally Posted by asgeirpe View Post
    And to all other Norwegians reading this. We should get "Norsk Hydro" as at tech team as well. And maybe Chr. Michelsens Institutt (CMI) link or maybe some of the reasearchers that were afilliated. Atle Selberg or Thoralf Skolem could maybe make the cut. SINTEF could also be amended with a start date 1950.
    Norsk Hydro should definitively be the norwergian tech team for Agrichemistry. Skill 4 and speciality in chemistry and management?

    I think SINTEF is covered by NTH. Both Selberg and Skolem (both mathematicans) could be covered by the University of Oslo, but I'd rather have NTH than UiO as the university from Norway.

    I don't think Chr. Michelsens Institutt is relevant for the technologies covered by Arsenal of Democracy

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    Leopold Ruzicka got his Nobel prise for organic chemistry, he worked mostly for perfume factories. It has very little to do with military. I would suggest to have skill 6 and just chemistry. Training is certainly a should not, as it represent military training, and not teaching.

    DEN
    Maersk should then have Skill 6 with management, technical efficiency and naval engineering.
    Naval training and seamanship is reserved for doctrine teams, which mean military training, military positioning of ships, etc. DEN's existing naval doctrine teams are less skilled.

    ROM
    A look at naval tech reveal that as componens it usualy have naval artillery, naval engineering, electronics and technical_efficiency. Anything else is not needed for ships.
    secretalex125 research shows, that the TTs suggested by him is better suited. Thus constanca should be replaced with Galati.
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    I don't say Constanta could be replaced by Galati.Constanta would be good as a more industrial/commercial place,whilst Galati is good for naval production/research stuff.That's it.But then,it is your game,not mine,and as far as I see,Romania has enough industrial places,so no Constanta shouldn't be a big pain

    Constanta is more known than Galati,but then its the efficiency here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardus View Post
    Ok. I thought that because of your avatar

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    I like Switzerland, because its neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kunadam View Post
    SCH
    Leopold Ruzicka got his Nobel prise for organic chemistry, he worked mostly for perfume factories. It has very little to do with military. I would suggest to have skill 6 and just chemistry. Training is certainly a should not, as it represent military training, and not teaching.

    DEN
    Maersk should then have Skill 6 with management, technical efficiency and naval engineering.
    Naval training and seamanship is reserved for doctrine teams, which mean military training, military positioning of ships, etc. DEN's existing naval doctrine teams are less skilled.

    ROM
    A look at naval tech reveal that as componens it usualy have naval artillery, naval engineering, electronics and technical_efficiency. Anything else is not needed for ships.
    secretalex125 research shows, that the TTs suggested by him is better suited. Thus constanca should be replaced with Galati.
    Skill 4. Specialty: Naval engineering, Naval artillery, technical efficiency.
    Done. Please check out the change log and the pack. I need please the pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by secretalex125 View Post
    I don't say Constanta could be replaced by Galati.Constanta would be good as a more industrial/commercial place,whilst Galati is good for naval production/research stuff.That's it.But then,it is your game,not mine,and as far as I see,Romania has enough industrial places,so no Constanta shouldn't be a big pain

    Constanta is more known than Galati,but then its the efficiency here
    Added Galati and left Costantia
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    new TT thread 2

    Yugoimport SDPR
    This is a cold war/post TT for Serbia
    Starting year 1949 - 1970
    [IMG][/IMG]
    Skill level 5, mechanics electronics, artillery, technical efficiency and rocketry.

    From wikapeida; Yugoimport SDPR is a Serbian state-owned defence company and represents the Government and military industrial complex of Serbia in the sphere of importation and exportation cooperation of defence equipment and related services. It is the largest company in the local defense industry.

    Elektronska industrija Niš

    Chemistry, elevtronics,management and technical efficieieny. level 5 or 6 not sure.
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    Starting year 1948 - 1970

    EI Niš, short for Electronic Industry Niš (Elektronska industrija Niš) is a company with headquarters in Niš, Serbia. It originated in 1948 from the foundation of the Institute for the Production of Radio Sets and Roentgen Machines, "RR Niš."
    The basic production encompasses acoustic equipment, electronic tubes including cathode-ray tubes, printed plates, electronic machine elements, hydraulics, pneumatics, appliances, air-conditioners, medical equipment, roentgen machines, TV sets, radio receivers, and semiconductors.

    If someone has any suggestions to this be my guest.
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    Proposals for Wales:

    Cardiff University:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_University
    Code:
    97619;Cardiff University;T_U76_CardiffUniversity;4;1930;1970;mathematics;chemistry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
    Donald Watts Davies:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Davies
    Code:
    97620;Donald Watts Davies;T_U76_DonaldDavies;3;1943;1970;nuclear_physics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
    Brecon Infantry Battle School:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_Training_Centre
    Code:
    97621;Brecon Infantry Battle School;T_U76_Brecon;2;1939;1970;small_unit_tactics;training;infantry_foucs;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
    I tried to go for research fields that are not covered by tigey's voluminous proposal (:

    Pics as usual:
    http://www.2shared.com/file/9587206/.../TT_Wales.html

    edit:I got this annoying feeling that i forgot something. But I'm just going to sleep now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by xena View Post
    Proposals for Wales:

    Cardiff University:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_University
    Code:
    97619;Cardiff University;T_U76_CardiffUniversity;4;1930;1970;mathematics;chemistry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
    Donald Watts Davies:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Davies
    Code:
    97620;Donald Watts Davies;T_U76_DonaldDavies;3;1943;1970;nuclear_physics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
    Brecon Infantry Battle School:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_Training_Centre
    Code:
    97621;Brecon Infantry Battle School;T_U76_Brecon;2;1939;1970;small_unit_tactics;training;infantry_foucs;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
    I tried to go for research fields that are not covered by tigey's voluminous proposal (:

    Pics as usual:
    http://www.2shared.com/file/9587206/.../TT_Wales.html

    edit:I got this annoying feeling that i forgot something. But I'm just going to sleep now...
    Hi Xena I have downladed your pics but I cannot asses whether they are fine. Regarding your proposals I'm ok but I would like to know some other opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioniere View Post
    Yugoimport SDPR
    This is a cold war/post TT for Serbia
    Starting year 1949 - 1970
    [IMG][/IMG]
    Skill level 5, mechanics electronics, artillery, technical efficiency and rocketry.

    From wikapeida; Yugoimport SDPR is a Serbian state-owned defence company and represents the Government and military industrial complex of Serbia in the sphere of importation and exportation cooperation of defence equipment and related services. It is the largest company in the local defense industry.

    Elektronska industrija Niš

    Chemistry, elevtronics,management and technical efficieieny. level 5 or 6 not sure.
    [IMG][/IMG]
    Starting year 1948 - 1970

    EI Niš, short for Electronic Industry Niš (Elektronska industrija Niš) is a company with headquarters in Niš, Serbia. It originated in 1948 from the foundation of the Institute for the Production of Radio Sets and Roentgen Machines, "RR Niš."
    The basic production encompasses acoustic equipment, electronic tubes including cathode-ray tubes, printed plates, electronic machine elements, hydraulics, pneumatics, appliances, air-conditioners, medical equipment, roentgen machines, TV sets, radio receivers, and semiconductors.

    If someone has any suggestions to this be my guest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardus View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Pioniere View Post
    Serbia
    Milan Nedić

    Skill level 5
    Starting year 1941 - 1956
    Infantry focus, large unit tactics, centralized execution and training.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Nedi%C4%87#Serbia

    Draža Mihailović
    Skill level 6 1941 – 1970

    Small unit’s tactics, decentralised exec, training, management and infantry focus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dra%C5%...%87#Early_life
    I had a look at them but I would lower the skill to 3 and 4 respectively. I won't code them before having received a feedback from somebody else.
    Quote Originally Posted by abodat View Post
    Esay1: Do you think you can find an other image for Aker? The current one is the logo of the firm Aker ASA, which has little to do with Akers Mekaniske Verksted (e.g. Aker ASA has sold Aker Yards, and the current logo is less than 15 years old). An earlier logo was http://dcdevine.files.wordpress.com/...jpg?w=128&h=55, but that one could also be from after 1970.



    Norsk Hydro should definitively be the norwergian tech team for Agrichemistry. Skill 4 and speciality in chemistry and management?

    I think SINTEF is covered by NTH. Both Selberg and Skolem (both mathematicans) could be covered by the University of Oslo, but I'd rather have NTH than UiO as the university from Norway.

    I don't think Chr. Michelsens Institutt is relevant for the technologies covered by Arsenal of Democracy
    All,

    I need, please, your feedbacks on those proposals
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    NOR - New pics for Akers


    ROM - Galati pics


    AUS - Pics added. However I feel that those who fled before the war should not be included.
    Gödel

    Schrödinger

    Anselm Franz

    Puch


    SCH - Leopold Ruzica


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    Brecon

    This picture look too much distorted. Could you give me the original? Also a bit too modern. It does not fit the '40-'50 well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kunadam View Post

    NOR - New pics for Akers

    AUS - Pics added.

    ....
    Thank you very much: I will add them to the pack tonight.

    I'm missing this pic
    as well as this pic

    Quote Originally Posted by kunadam View Post
    However I feel that those who fled before the war should not be included.
    Have you checked the time? Schrödinger and Godel are supposed to disappear in 1939. Do you have any comment on the above mentioned proposals (e.g. Serbian, Norevegian, etc)?
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    Cardiff University

    Source http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/southeas...00/8308624.stm

    Some pics for the Cardiff University. Please feel free to pick up the one you like most.

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    Follow this link for the latest update on the Tech Teams for AoD
    http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=462691


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