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    I don't think the kaiser and Tsar are THAT stupid to use nukes. These guys may be autocrats but they aren't dictators. I'm sure they know that attempting to use nukes will only make any scenario worse in the long run since they lack the ability to totally destroy the Allies while the Allies do have the ability to totally destroy them.

    At least let's hope they realize that.

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    Well it seems the Western Front is holding as is. Maybe a breakthrough will be in order soon.
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    @Zhuge Liang: You have to remember: this is not a rational enemy I face, but rather the AI. Once I edit the save to allow them the use of their nukes, they will show me no restraint. Expect nuclear weapons use to be......heavy.

    @Xesan: I am going to stay on a defensive posture in Scandinavia until the time comes for an all out offensive against Germany and its European allies. Any offensive from Scandinavia will most likely be directed towards Finland and the Kola Peninsula.

    @Zeldar155: I really dont care enough to bring Greece into the allies. I will keep them neutral.

    @salidas16: I think you might be woefully underestimating their nuclear capabilities. I am pretty confident that both Russia and Germany have far more nukes than I have, and have the capability to cause catastrophic damage. Also, with the war going so badly for them, you can easily imagine both the Tsar and the Kaiser coming under tons of pressure by their generals to do something drastic.

    @Spitfire_Pilot: Believe me when I say, having played all the way to winter 1959, that Germanys defenses are far stronger than anticipated.....

    @everyone else: thanks for the comments!

    Battles in the central asian theatre are becoming far more intense as Russian and European units redeploy to the region to defend their territory. Here, at Frunze, between the Indian and Qing borders, a massive battle takes place. Involving thousands of main battle tanks on both sides and almost 2 million soldiers, Allied and Russian forces mercilessly fire away at each other. However, due to their superior defensive positions in the mountains of the area, the Russians are able to come out on top, repulsing the allied attack and inflicting heavy casualties.


    With the Qing empire struggling to supply its remaining forces, the USAF's strategic air command finds an opportunity to make effective use of its B-52 bomber force. With the last Qing industrial complexes focused solely on the cities of Lhasa and Urumqi, American B-52 are sent into the region to destroy these vital targets. Eventually, the Qing empire's remaining heavy industries are reduced to rubble, and what used to be limited supply shipments to their forces finally drop to utterly nothing.



    Another weird example of the butterfly effect of alternate history. Ho Chi Minh, the arch nemesis of the USA in the Vietnam war, turns out to be commanding allied Vietnamese forces on the front lines against the enemy. If irony were strawberries, we would all be slurping a lot of smoothies right now.


    The allied forces continue their massive offensive into the steppes of far western China. Here, in the center of the front, 930,000 Chinese and other Asian forces run into and smash 91 depleted divisions of Qing and Russian troops.


    Further south, Chinese forces brush aside the battered remains of the Qing army that are guarding the region. By doing this, allied forces are able to cut off the Qing provisional capital of Lhasa, Tibet, from the rest of their forces.


    In southeastern Kazakhstan, substantial enemy reinforcements have begun arriving in the area, launching numerous counterattacks against allied units in the region. Here, at Zhambyl, tank heavy Russian forces battle it out with their American counterparts, ultimately failing to break allied defenses.


    Sensing weakness, Chinese forces, under the command of popular Chinese general Chiang Kai Shek lay siege to the battered Qing armies defending Lhasa. Although extremely short on essential supplies such as food and ammunition, the sheer numbers of enemy troops combined with the terrible weather and terrain force Chiang to call off his attack. More units will have to be called in before the coup de grace can be made against the Qing remnants.


    Back in North America, German ICBM's once again rain down from the skies onto the city of Denver, with their focus once again being on the Denver Nuclear Weapons Facility. Heavy damage is sustained, but lucky no radiation leaks have been detected thanks to heavy fortifications of the actual reactor complexes.


    This time, the President has had enough. To show the Germans that the allies are not unwilling to retaliate, Eisenhower orders the launch of 2 divisions worth of Atlas ICBM's at Germany. The missiles fly over the Altantic and rain down upon the city of Berlin, causing substantial damage to the city's high tech military installations, such as the Berlin nuclear technology institute and the Luftwaffe's missile and rocketry testing facilities.


    Meanwhile, in the North Sea, American warships moored in the harbour of Narvik, Norway, are raided by carrier aircraft of the German navy. The Germans succeed in causing some damage, with the greatest loss being the old pre-pacific war aircraft carrier USS Hornet. In retaliation, Admiral Spruance charges out to sea, bringing with him 9 Enterprise class nuclear aircraft carriers.


    In a series of running battles off the Norwegian coast, the US navy manages to cause substantial damage to the German fleet. This includes the destruction of a number of German capital ships, totaling 4 battleships and 1 nuclear aircraft carrier. One of the enemy vessels sunk is the longtime flagship of the German navy, the SMS Kanzler Bismarck, once one of the worlds most fearsome battleships, now nothing more than scrap metal thanks to the US navy.

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    Whoa, Curtis ''Bombs Away'' LeMay, Chiang Kai-shek and Ho Chi Minh are battering your enemies! According to KR development, LeMay should be now sitting in federal prison for assisting Huey Long in highest treason, Uncle Ho should be leader of Syndie resistance in Indochina and Chiang should be now dead for at least three decades. However, it seems that LeMay was pardoned for his collaboration with American Union State(his service was needed in air force), Ho Chi Minh turned pro-American(due to proclaimed American anti-colonial policy) and Chiang survived German intervention in China.

    Btw, impressive strike on Berlin!
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    On a related note, Germany is going to finish off paying its debt to France from WW1's Treaty of Versaille this Sunday. Took 92 years to pay off the fucker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CylonAndrew View Post
    On a related note, Germany is going to finish off paying its debt to France from WW1's Treaty of Versaille this Sunday. Took 92 years to pay off the fucker!
    Finally. That seems so long ago, but when you think about, WWI wasn't even one-hundred years ago. But yeah. Teach the Germans that we don't accept Nukes aimed at us.
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    @Karaiskandar: Vengeance is sweet.

    @ColossusCrusher: Fine, in your case, irony can be several tons of chocolate.

    @Asalto: Nice explanation for the ridiculousness of this campaign. LeMay was never removed from the US leaderfiles, so thats why he is here, and I had no idea that Chiang was supposed to be dead. Then again, the Republic of China uses mostly vanilla RoC files from the regular game, so thats why characters like Chiang and Falkenhausen are members of their army. Also, guys like Ho Chi Minh and General Giap fighting for the allies makes some pretty decent sense due to America's support of anti-colonialism.

    @CylonAndrew: You would think that they would have tried to forgive that debt since the treaty of versailles was such a nightmare and the French and Germans are best buddies now.

    @everybody: thanks for the comments!

    Massive Chinese led allied forces march on Urumqi, one of the last major cities still under Qing control. Enemy resistance completely collapses, as thousands of demoralized and exhausted Qing soldiers surrender en masse, helped by a Chinese Republican government offer of leniency and repatriation into democratic Chinese society.


    Chinese forces under Chiang's command also march into Lhasa, overrunning the battered Qing defenses and capturing the city, in the process taking many Qing prisoners.


    Chinese forces enter Urumqi, taking control of the city and in the process capturing the remains of the Qing Imperial government, including the emperor himself, Pu-Yi.


    On April 19th, 1959, the emperor agrees to the Republic of China's terms and offers his unconditional surrender. The Qing Empire and all of its remaining military forces surrender completely to the Republic of China. Finally, after many decades, all of China, with the exception of some border regions still in Russian hands, is unified under a single government. Celebrations break out all over China, which is now on track to becoming a real world power.


    Meanwhile, in Europe, American bombers that were clearing the Dardanelle's straits of enemy shipping are attacked by German fighters. Many American bombers are shot out of the sky, but thankfully not before they are able to halt all enemy naval activity in the region, the last obstacle to a final attack on Constantinople itself.


    With the way cleared, 550,000 American, South African, and Australian troops cross the straits and attack Constantinople itself. Ottoman troops, many of which are tired of the war and just want to go home. Allied forces find that because of their dissatisfaction with the war, Ottoman troops only put up weak resistance, with many enemy units simply surrendering as soon as they encounter allied forces.


    The first allied units to occupy the city are American air cavalry forces, which land light infantry onto many important buildings from their helicopters. Constantinople is quickly cleared of all enemy resistance, and many top Ottoman officials, such as the Sultan himself are captured.


    Just like the Qing Empire in China, the Ottoman Empire surrenders to the allied forces on May 10th, 1959. The war for the control of the Middle east is now officially over with a total allied victory. Also note allied progress in Russian Central Asia.


    The state of the worlds most powerful armies by June 4th, 1959. Russia, despite taking an immense pounding and losing as much as an estimated 1.5 million troops to the allied advance, is still on top, with 6.5 million soldiers fighting in its ranks. However, many of these soldiers are actually expeditionary troops from Russia's eastern European allies such as Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, and Lithuania. The United States Army comes in 2nd place, with almost 5 million troops in its ranks, followed very closely by the German Empire, which has mobilized the largest mechanized armed forces on the face of the earth, giving them an extremely potent defensive capability.


    Back in the United States, the US government, fearing the catastrophic consequences of a possible German/Russian nuclear attack, has begun pressing into full time service the soldiers of the United States National Guard. State governors are easily convinced to give these weekend warriors over to the command of the US federal government, with the National Guard units steadily being mobilized in strategic points within their home states, most notably, outside of major cities.

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    That's the bad part about the size of the United States: you need a lot of divisions to control it.

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    Freak*** huge armies !
    But two less evil empires, justice will prevail !
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    But war, war never changes.....

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    That force composition report is surprisingly good news, taking into account all your allies it looks like you actually outnumber Mitteleuropa and that situation should only improve in time. It's a shame (if good entertainment-wise) that, as you mentioned before, the AI is incapable of looking at the situation rationally and will instead fight to the very end with Hitleresque fanaticism.

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    should there still be bad fealing and dammage from the civil war in America, or is everyoe just caught up in the frenzey of partiotism of winning 2 wars and on the way of winning a third?

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    Actually speaking of Ho Chi Minh he apparently asked President Wilson for help in getting the French out of Indochina believing that the US' proclaimed anti-colonial and anti-imperialist attitude would cause them to help. but Wilson (obviously) refused. His acceptance of socialism and friendliness towards the Soviets was mostly out of practicality then actually support for socialism since they were seemingly the only major power that actually wanted to help them become independent. So in this timeline it actually makes sense that he would be a ally of the US as they actually made Vietnam independent. At least that's what I've heard.

    Anyway to celebrate the unification of China under our Republican allies here's a map I whipped up. I know we're long past this point, but I finally got to finish it and now seems like a good as time as any to post it.
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    Very nice map Salidas16 !
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    @Zhuge Liang: although my recent victories in the ground war are giving me the numerical advantage, I wouldn't count mitteleuropa's armies out yet. Enemy units have a lot of advanced firepower still at their disposal, and their forces, especially the Russians, have heavily garrisoned many natural obstacles to my advances. This was is far from being won yet.

    @CylonAndrew: There are probably a few extremists still out there in places like Chicago and Atlanta, but by now, they are a minuscule minority. The 2nd American Civil War brought devastation all over the country, all because of the ego's of Long and Reed, who legitimately lost the 1936 elections to John Nance Garner and yet still tried to overthrow the government. you can bet that many people resent everything those two did, especially more so if that person lost friends or family during the battles of the war. It would probably also apply to those in the former PSA as well.

    @salidas16: Very nice map. I might even go back to one of the post pacific war updates and edit it in around the time when Asia was granted independence. Do you have any more maps like that? (although I think you should probably change the text to something like times new roman or something similar)

    @everyone else: thanks for the comments!

    American fighter aircraft start engaging in multiple sorties against the Russian and German airforces over the English Channel, in an attempt to gain total air superiority in the airspace between Britain and France. The results are rather mixed, with many enemy fighters being shot down, but at the cost of many aircraft and pilots.



    With the Qing Empire's armies now gone and more Chinese and Asian units moving to the front, the US joint chiefs of staff decide to begin redeploying American units off of the frontlines to rear areas.


    Meanwhile, the Russians and their Eastern European allies are continuing to mount pressure against allied forces in central Asia. Here, at Chelkar, a British led multinational force is able to blunt an assault by 400,000 enemy troops. Attacks like this are taking place more and more as the Russians try to drive the allied forces back.


    1 million US soldiers now begin a massive journey from the deserts of western China to the port of Aleppo, in Syria. From here, these US soldiers will travel by ship to France.


    More enemy counterattacks are taking place back in Central Asia. At Zhambyl, Russian forces are attacking allied units over and over again, sending waves of tanks and infantry at allied defenses. in the face of these constant assaults, allied forces here are beginning to falter, just barely holding back this particular attack.


    The Russians are also turning up the pressure in Siberia. Krasnoyarsk, a major city in the area that had recently fallen to Korean forces, is counterattacked by 200,000 Russian troops. In the face of such military might, the Koreans have to fall back.


    Back in Europe, the American air forces that were attempting to gain control over the channel's airspace are grounded due to excessive casualties. It seems that no matter how many aircraft the USAF shoots down, the Germans and Russians always bring more to follow. The battle of attrition in the skies is still not looking very good for the allies.


    Pressure in Central Asia is still mounting, as 420,000 Russian troops pound away at allied forces in Zhezkazgan. However, due to the awesome firepower of hundreds of British tanks in the region, the Russian attack falls apart.


    By September 14th, the constant battles in places like Central Asia are taking a big toll on the United States Armed Forces. Casualties since the start of 1959 have grown massively, with 320,000 US soldiers and airmen being killed or badly wounded. Casualty figures for America's allies are unknown, but are no doubt very heavy in many cases.


    By the fall of 1959, US forces from Asia have completed their redeployment to France.


    These battle hardened US troops now begin moving north and east to the Italian and French frontlines facing the German Army. In conjunction with millions of allied troops from places like Spain, France, Italy, Canada, Brazil, Britain, and La Plata, these American troops will soon take part in a massive allied general offensive, aimed at breaking the back of the German Army once and for all.
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    If you advance into Germany via Italy and France and thus have them rather than you occupy Germany's provinces, does that mean it'll be Italy and France rather than you who'll be on the recieving end of Germany's nukes?
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    Well it seems the Russians aren't quite out of the fight. As for the maps I do have this one based on Mittelafrika at the start of the Kaiserreich scenario.
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