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    It seems that Logistics are almost a bigger problem than the Spanish army ! And you're still far away from the Rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karaiskandar View Post
    It seems that Logistics are almost a bigger problem than the Spanish army ! And you're still far away from the Rock.
    Good practice for the steppes of Russia. I have got my air transports at work (next update) which helps. But I have never played a game where I studied the full effects of supply, so I am looking forward to seeing how I go when I get further into Spain.

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    Huzzah! for the Spanish Invasion!

    Also, with the Fuhrer invading Spain, would the possibility of a German invasion of Switzerland be over the horizon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriah View Post
    Good practice for the steppes of Russia. I have got my air transports at work (next update) which helps.
    Oh yes those JU 52's will surely prove very useful !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriah View Post
    Good practice for the steppes of Russia. .... But I have never played a game where I studied the full effects of supply, .
    Having, in a purely electronic and figurative sense done the reverse journey from Russia to Berlin and beyond (twice now), I suspect you will indeed find yourself working out why bits and pieces are out of supply on a regular basis. The good news is you can usually work out why, the bad news is you can't do too much about it sometimes.

    My instinct is your war in Russia will fall into two very distinct phases. A short opener, when you are close to the border when you can attack at will and, if you can, destroy as much of the Soviets as possible. Thereafter, you'll have to let bits of the front sit still, less due to opposition, more to do with conserving the supply draw and letting your supplies catch up, and your offensives become short lunges rather than sweeping manouvres - pretty realistic really.

    ... and then you have winter and partisans

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulking View Post
    Huzzah! for the Spanish Invasion!

    Also, with the Fuhrer invading Spain, would the possibility of a German invasion of Switzerland be over the horizon...
    Keen though I am to show my skill, I fear that the Reich cannot afford to mount four campaigns simultaneously. Spain will take at some time (and Gibraltar a bit more). I may have to land in Morocco.

    While Yugoslavia is under control, Romania, Greece and Bulgaria all look inviting. And while I'm down there ....

    And of course Norway, my opportunity to show off my invasion/mountain skills.

    So sadly, the Schweizers will probably have years of peace and quiet.

    I just can't see myself havig a dozen divisions with good commanders and back-up air to handle it in a decent time frame. Off course, Mussolini may take a dislike to something they say, then it will be on.

    Everyhting, however, is subordinated to Barbarossa: it will take place next year as soon as the weather looks good all the way to the Baltic. Say late March, early April (I am being hopeful of a long first year). Which means that all other fronts must release troops, planes etc by December.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karaiskandar View Post
    Oh yes those JU 52's will surely prove very useful !
    They had better, from the cost they are made of platinum! Nevertheless, I already think I will have to build two more geschwader before next year. But I am worried that the VVS will be able to catch them, so maybe MPFs attached.

    Quote Originally Posted by loki100 View Post
    Having, in a purely electronic and figurative sense done the reverse journey from Russia to Berlin and beyond (twice now), I suspect you will indeed find yourself working out why bits and pieces are out of supply on a regular basis. The good news is you can usually work out why, the bad news is you can't do too much about it sometimes.

    My instinct is your war in Russia will fall into two very distinct phases. A short opener, when you are close to the border when you can attack at will and, if you can, destroy as much of the Soviets as possible. Thereafter, you'll have to let bits of the front sit still, less due to opposition, more to do with conserving the supply draw and letting your supplies catch up, and your offensives become short lunges rather than sweeping manouvres - pretty realistic really.

    ... and then you have winter and partisans
    I fear you are right. I have been working on building up my practical for Infra, so that I can repair and build up infra asap, and should have most of Poland at 100% by the time I cross the border. If only the Russians would do the same! The tentative plan is an initial mass drive to benefit from my bombers and prepared supply. If possible, hit the Russians again and again before they can regain org. Cut off any I can (but remember I use the AI) unitl supply become a problem. Then concentrate objectives in a couple of areas, supply the lead units by air as much as I can. And all the time keep upgrading infra in captured provinces, creating "supply channels" forward.

    Plan B is to see what happens and react.

    I will pretend to ignore your comments re winter and partisans. The Fuhrer simply doesn't want to know.

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    Hi Uriah, I havent posted for a while because of RL, but nice to see the AAR going so nicely. Spain is always difficult I find, too big and to harsh to fight. Also hard to protect. Not worth the effort.

    Anyway, all the best!

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    I think you may be surprised by Gibraltar, unless SF has really improved British desire to protect. I usually find the Brits out trying to help shore up the Spaniards, so you can often cut most of the force off from the Rock and make several attacks in series to take out what little forces remain. BUT, if you want to get it without letting the cost get prohibitive, you will have to take control of the attacks. The ai always wants more and will sit there and wait while Britain pours reinforcements in.

    Spain really isn't that hard to defend, garrison the ports and keep some mobile units within range. Anyone attacking won't have a port and supply cause horrendous problems.

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    Well. Here we are, with a breakthrough in the line of defense. I would've thought the Pyrennées harder to cross...

    Have you computed the amount of supplies that can transit through this awfully narrow border ? I'm thinking you are a bit optimistic sending motorized units, they consume fuel and more supplies than regular infantry. In this type of rugged terrain, are they still more efficient ?

    Anyway, if I understand the supply system, I think that supplies are manufactured by IC provinces, so you should prioritize your conquests accordingly...

    I'm really looking forward to seeing how this invasion turns out !

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    As Germany, I have invaded Spain and the first part went well. Then supply difficulties resulted in most of my army being stranded. I had a panzer corps but the rest of my invading army was infantry. The British devoted significant forces to try to keep Spain in the fight. Victory was not in doubt but the timing was uncertain.

    I hope your invasion goes better but the start (overcrowded provinces and poor control of the air) does not bode well. You have plenty of time but you will need to use it well!

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    Hi Uriah, another fine update, it looks like the spearhead of your invasion has almost broken through. I guess the mot/arm gamble vs gebirgs and foot inf will pay off with a mad dash across the plains...but I also am concerned about supply, esp as was prev noted by Kigrwik and others, these units need gas as well as more supplies, further choking the few usable roads. In past games I've built a handful of cav div early (for partisan supression, later during Barbarosa) and needing to keep them busy, used them to help in spains rugged terrain.

    Building infra right behind the advance is a good idea but can clog up the production board in a jiffy with cheap but slow builds. That you project Poland will be 100% is quite impressive. can we get a screenie of what you are building sometime?

    Lastly, have you built any naval bombers? I realize your expensive fondness for the Kriegsmarine (which I share) has used a lot of IC but I have used small escorted squadrons of them to clean up the coasts enough to risk amphib assaults on gibralter while the Brits are trying to support the Spanish and their med flt was engaged by the Italians. Perhaps the SF ai is too smart to leave the back door open like that.

    Thanks again for making this such a sustained and enjoyable read and for putting up with us all trying to direct over your shoulder

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    A 100% infra in all of Poland I can only approve of, I had great problems as mud/winter started and I hadn't defeated the Soviets.

    I would take a serious look at your fuel situation before building any new petrol guzzlers, like ATR and STR. Careful when looking at total use, the graph in statistics has most likely still the ship and plan use for fuel exchanged, a bug in 1.4 which I haven't seen corrected in the notes.

    You can most likely stop producing any offensive units at all now and switch to police and gar's and all kind of infra, along with fleet. I didn't really need more units as I got a lot of allies that would fight for me, in SF 2.03 you can even let them upgrade their units via the tech sharing diplomacy.
    If you plan to not overrun the Soviets in 3 months but try a longer campaign you will need loads of police if you don't take the very ahistorical occupation policy of collaboratory government (which is very efficient but makes supplies in Barbarossa a none-event.)

    I don't think there is a problem with doing Norway at the same time as Yugo(which is finished now) and Spain (dead when you get 3 provinces in), just remember to keep a reasonable large force at the Soviet border or they might backstab you.

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    Didn't they change it in the 2.xx releases that police don't actually do anything to occupied territory?

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    A Clerk’s War


    Sunday 1st to Tuesday 3rd April 1940

    There being nothing urgent, I had Sunday off. Usually it is a good idea to stay out of the office on 1st April : some of the younger members of staff get a bit carried away with Aprilscherzen. Though maybe the fact we are at war and they all have close relatives and friends in harm’s way would have calmed them down. It doesn’t really matter, I enjoyed a very pleasant day strolling in the Volkspark Rehberge with Gisela. I still miss the fountain that used to be in the park – it was taken down by order of the Party in 1934 and I heard it had now been melted down. A real waste, just because it was erected to honour the Rathenaus, the famous father and son industrialists. But it is best not to talk too much of this.

    Even though there was no official Cabinet meeting at the end of March, there were some decisions made. The one that impacted directly on the Reichskanzlei was a request (in reality a demand) that within three days the Cabinet be provided with a comprehensive summary of the Reich’s industrial, economic and financial situation. This would include all military expenditure and contracts, all stockpiles of raw materials and all construction projects over the length and breadth of Europe. A massive job, and within minutes I had clerks from every branch of the administration, searching for copies of contracts, agreements, budgets, tender documents, invoices and purchase orders. It is a good thing that I am well organised and prepare my section for just such “emergencies” as this. Why do they need it in three days? There is no point asking – it will get you nowhere. The only solution is to deliver.



    Some of my staff searching for missing invoices: it is very musty down in the lowest basements!


    I did hear a rumour that all this information is needed because of a general concern that the collaboration governments we have set up in Poland, Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands and occupied Yugoslavia are not contributing to our industrial production. The decision to allow this degree of freedom was originally made to encourage volunteers to the Wehrmacht (whether as officers or other ranks), as well as to make it easier to find talented individuals to assist in our scientific, educational and diplomatic efforts. As demands on our factories increase however, it seems clear that we need manufactured goods rather than just manpower. The word from the Führer’s inner circle is that the collaboration governments will be replaced with either a military government or a full occupation within days. This will no doubt cause some unhappiness, but we have several garrison divisions nearly ready to be deployed.

    Because of all this panic, it was late on Monday before I could spare the time to check on what was happening with war. Early on Sunday had General Ruoff shrugged off the threat of Yugoslav mobility, smashing Nedeljovic’s motorised infantry in Brcko. With only 9 casualties, 2.Infanterie (mot) “Vörwarts” and 3rd Gebirgsjäger Division killed or captured 199 of the enemy, and broke all resistance in just over 24 hours. Ruoff’s troops are streaming into Brcko, but there are alarming reports that his fuel stocks are running low and that supply is struggling to keep up with the rapid advance. General Guderian has acknowledged that Rommel’s forces in Spain are in greater trouble, but has pointed out that his lead units could be in Beograd in a week or so if they get their required fuel.

    Also early on Sunday, General Herzog was back in motion, having received enough fuel and supplies in Pamplona to send his men across the Ebro into Estella. Initial reports were not promising, as 36.Infanterie (mot) struggled to get a foothold on the far side of the river, with General Rojo Lluch’s cavalry putting up fierce resistance. Once again the Sturmpanzer IIs of 1st Self-Propelled Artillery Regiment have been called upon to hammer the defenders, and Herzog says it is just a matter of time before his men can created a bridgehead. Once they have a pontoon bridge capable of carrying their vehicles, Herzog is confident that Spanish resistance will quickly collapse.



    Battle of Estella


    The Luftwaffe has also been active, obviously eager to repair the damage done to its reputation over the few days since Unternehmen Stierkampf began. As well as the normal bombing and fighter missions, brand new Arado Ar-232 transports of 1st Truppentransporterluftflotte began landing at the tiny Bayonne airbase, bringing desperately needed fuel and supplies from Nantes. Unfortunately, they are unable to continue this on a regular basis, as they have stripped the region around their home base of all available resources. Efforts to find another airbase within range with sufficient reserves to warrant a supply mission have been in vain. Commander Abernetty has advised that when convoys have refilled the Nantes warehouses he will again send his aircraft south. Regardless of when the next delivery can take place, our men at the Spanish front were no doubt grateful for what they received.



    An Arado Ar-232 “Tausendfüssler” moves along the short runway at Bayonne. This aircraft is a marked improvement on the Ju-52, able to take off on only 200 metres of runway, which is useful at small bases such as Bayonne.


    The precious (and costly) Arados were only allowed to carry out the dangerous supply mission to Bayonne because of the efforts of Christiansen’s 4th Jagdfliegerkorps. Westwall 1 and 2 geschwaders have been flying around-the-clock, combating clouds of I-15 and I-16 fighters and huge numbersof Tupolev bombers over our troop concentrations and airbases, as well as driving off the strategic raids on infrastructure in Bayonne. All day Sunday the Messerschmitts were busy over Pamplona, harassing Spanish bombers. Despite their best efforts, in many cases the SB-2s got through, though FARE losses were heavy. At debriefings on Sunday night, our pilots claimed that 1er and 2o Grupo Táctico had lost more than 50 aircraft between them, and the other two Spanish bomber units had also taken losses.



    Bombing of Pamplona: the FARE, despite huge losses, continues to concentrate on the crowded roads to the front lines


    The bad news, however, is that fuel and supplies are not the only things held up on the choked roads to Bayonne. Replacement parts for aircraft are stuck in the traffic jams, and Westwall 2 is now down to 81 effective planes, while Westwall 1 is only marginally better at 88. Not all of this can be blamed on the supply blockages, however, as Bayonne airbase was only intended to handle one geschwader, and currently has 700 aircraft operating from the one basic runway and attached facilities. It simply cannot carry out the necessary maintenance and repairs to keep so many planes in action. Workmen are busy day and night, but it will still be weeks before the new runway and workshops are ready.



    Air Battle of Pamplona: 9AM 2nd April: our fighters are showing signs of wear and tear


    General Bock, commander of 36.Infanterie Division, reported from Yugoslavia that his men have struck a slight problem while attacking north-east from Zenica into Zavidovici. The attack, taken in conjunction with a south-eastern drive by Geyr von Schweppenburg’s 2nd leichte Panzer Division, was supposed to be a simple exercise. Our reports were that the whole province was held by a few thousand headquarters troops, but our front-line officers have identified men from a regular Yugoslav Royal Army unit, 7 Potisko Pesadijsk. In addition, the enemy have a commander who shows more initiative and ingenuity than normal. This man, General Broz Tito, has been credited with stiffening the resolve of the units in the area, and could prove to be a problem in the future. To add to our problems, von Schweppenburg has warned that 2nd leichte is running low on fuel and he is not sure that he has sufficient reserves to allow a further advance.



    Battle of Zavidovici


    Elsewhere in Yugoslavia, General Köstring’s has added to his string of victories. Glokova’s men put up only a token resistance in Mostar, and after taking 63 casualties 13 Hercegovacka Pesadjisk abandoned the province. 13.Infanterie (mot) only lost 25 men, and has plenty of fuel reserves, though it is not clear how this occurred when other units are starved of supply.

    At dawn, General von Manstein launched another crossing attempt of the Ebro, from San Sebastián into Guipúzcao. As if the river was not enough of an obstacle, the mountains behind provided ample defence and artillery spotting opportunities for the men of 1/1a Division, led by General Dúran Martínez. Nobody knows how von Manstein managed to scrounge enough fuel to get his tanks, Marders and trucks rolling forward, but he has been around for a long time and I’ll bet he has contacts everywhere in the Heer, including the supply commissariat. While information on progress was scarce, it was clear that 3rd leichte Panzer was taking casualties and, as always, I wonder whether my brother Heinz is amongst them. But there is nothing to be gained from such thoughts, so I tried to concentrate on the other news from Spain.



    Battle of Guipúzcoa


    It looks as if General Rommel decided that the threat to his left flank, no matter how slight and how difficult to remove, must be nullified. General Bieß has been ordered to take his Bitburgers into the mountains of Argelès-Gazost and eliminate any possible counter-attack by General Vivancos. By moving quickly, Bieß has prevented 8a Division from digging in and setting up the roadblocks that proved so annoying when we first entered the Pyrenees. As a result, the first messages received from the lead units were that although the Spanish were defending every village and cross-road, steady progress was being made.



    Battle of Argelès-Gazost


    It was by now late in the afternoon of Monday 2nd, and I was surprised to hear that although the early reports had been of steady resistance in Argelès-Gazost, General Bieß was now claiming complete victory. What could have caused the Spanish to suddenly break and run? A quick review of the daily bombing summaries that were just coming in gave a possible answer. Due to the fuel delivered by Abernetty’s “Tausendfüsslers”, Löhr had been able to mount two bombing missions during the afternoon. “Hammer” and “Schwertz” had mercilessly dive-bombed every strongpoint identified by the forward scouts of 10.Infanterie (mot) and with their front line effectively destroyed, the Spanish in the rear had simply fled.



    High above the Pyrenees, a Stuka poises before diving on hastily prepared Spanish fortifications in the mountain passes.


    The additional fuel had also allowed Christiansen to commit 4th Jagdfliegerkorps to the defence of Pamplona again, where a further 25 Spanish bombers were shot down. Regrettably, it came at a cost: another 4 fighters lost. Unless we can get replacement aircraft to Bayonne, Christiansen will soon be unable to defend his own airbase. At the moment the Spanish fighters have been pulled back, no doubt to due to the losses inflicted in the first few days, but no-one doubts that they will reappear.

    The last news from Yugoslavia was positive: General Tito has pulled out of Zavidovici. The expected tussle for possession of the province did not eventuate, to the relief of General Bock. The support on which he had been relying (von Schweppenburg’s tanks entering from the north-west) had disappeared, simultaneously with the last fuel for the tanks and other vehicles of 2nd leichte Panzer. The whole division is stuck motionless in Doboj, unable to move until the supply tankers arrive. Our intelligence is that Tito is moving at speed due west, and it is supposed that he has decided to cross the Nava and defend the approach to Beograd. That is a challenge we will have to face when we get there: at the moment General Guderian is glad that 36.infanterie did not get locked in a desperate battle in the hills of Zavidovici, fighting for their lives while 2nd leichte looked on helplessly.



    A Panzer II sits motionless in Doboj, unable to proceed with the attack into Zavidovici due to lack of fuel. Its crew are nowhere to be seen, probably taking the rare opportunity to catch up on sleep.


    The final news from Spain for Monday was short: General FW Müller has been given responsibility for the other potential threat to our left flank – Jaca. Held by Casado López, with barely 6,000 cavalry and headquarters troops, there are reports that another Spanish infantry division is moving to reinforce the defenders. 20.Infanterie is the first unit of X Armeekorps to reach the front, marching through the Pyrenees. For once the lack of vehicles is a benefit: the soldiers are carrying enough ammunition and food for to fight for days, and the lack of fuel has not slowed them at all. I suspect that the footsloggers of X Armeekorps will be involved in many more battles as we move further into Spain.



    Republican Army troops march through a village on their way to reinforce Jaca: lack of fuel does not worry them


    Tuesday 3rd April saw two garrison divisions sent to France to keep order. General von Axthelm has been complaining that his Frankreich Army is an army in name only. He has had no ground units with which to control the cities of France, and believes it is only good fortune that has prevented an uprising. 213.Sicherung has been sent to Paris under the command of General von Greiff, with General Fett and 141.Reserve now based in Nantes. Both leaders are well known for their logistical efficiency, which seems to tie in with what is now the most dominant talking point in Berlin.

    This can be seen in the revised expenditure approvals, undertaken as soon as the budget for the two divisions was closed. The success of the Arados in rushing supply forward to Bayonne has electrified our logistical thinkers, who are now openly talking of a new strategy: lightning thrusts to capture enemy airfields that are then used to unload fleets of long-range transports. Orders for another geschwader of the “Tausendfüsslers” have been placed, and Arado factories will be working flat out for some time, as it is almost certain that this contract will be extended.



    The owners of Arado are overjoyed: their gamble in producing this advanced aircraft (with its breakthrough concepts such as the rear loading ramp and the “millipede” wheels to allow easy loading) has paid off.


    Our experts are not ignoring other potential solutions, however. Five new industrial complexes are to be built in the east, at Königsberg, Ostrava, Brno, Breslau and Memel. The reasoning behind the construction is that these factories will not simply increase our manufacturing capacity and our ability to convert coal to oil, and hence to fuel. They will also provide forward supply points, allowing some supplies to be transported much shorter distances, reducing both time and wastage.



    A supply map of Europe, showing improved lines of communication in Poland, and problems in Yugoslavia and Spain.


    It is probably not coincidental that two massive trade deals were signed the same day. Italy has agreed to purchase 50,000 tonnes of coal a day for a sum of 1.88 million RM. Coal trains are already leaving the Ruhr and heading south, bound for the factories of Turin and other manufacturing centres. Despite its size, this deal was dwarfed by the agreement with the Soviet Union. We will pay them 8.07 million RM a day for 20,000 tonnes of raw oil. This is nowhere near what we would like, but it does slow the reduction of our stockpiles. Needless to say, such a vast expenditure cannot be met from income, and Treasury will be in significant deficit. Nobody cares: we have a vast surplus, obtained by our capture of several national banks, and we have nothing else to do with the funds. Oil is more important than cash.



    Coal wagons loaded for delivery to Italy: we need to help our allies


    Two battles began on Tuesday, one in Spain and one in Yugoslavia. In Spain, General A Jodl and 14.Infanterie (mot) invaded Tafalla, facing a determined opponent in General Kléber and 1a Division. Perhaps Jodl will regret having a tank destroyer regiment for support: a self-propelled artillery regiment would be more useful in crossing the Ebro than his Marders. There are already signs that this attack is not going well. If our aircraft cannot get fuel we could face our first unsuccessful attack in Spain.



    Battle of Tafalla


    General Volkmann had no such doubts: his enemy in Korcula is the badly mauled 13 Herzegovacka Pesadji, which has already lost battle after battle across Yugoslavia. Volkmann’s 1st Gebirgsjägers are fresh and full of spirit, a marked contrast to Glokovac’s men who are just as likely to surrender as to fight.



    Battle of Karcula


    There was not much time in the afternoon to look at current events: all hands were required to finalise the document for Cabinet. The only thing of note that I remember was that General Ott reported to say he had entered Guernica which was completely abandoned: the Spanish had not left even a skeleton defence. At least 3.Infanterie (mot) did not use much fuel in securing another province.



    Production Summary for the Reich: a “snapshot” at close of business 3rd April 1940


    The first section of the Cabinet document looked at resources: raw materials, manpower etc. It was with some pride that Armaments Minister Hjalmar Schacht reported that we have more than 90 million tonnes of military supplies and nearly 82 million tonnes of fuel available. As he pointed out, this is a testament to the steady saving of these critical resources over the years leading up to war. Not only have we this stockpile, but we have also completely filled our storage facilities with coal and steel. We have no more room to store any more. The situation for rare materials such as non-ferrous metals, rubber, silk and some pharmaceuticals is not as good, but we still have 66 million tonnes in reserve. At our present rate of consumption, we could last nearly three years, assuming all imports ceased tomorrow and no fresh sources were located. The last material resource, oil, is a concern. We have 40 million tonnes, but would like to have a bigger stockpile to buffer our fuel reserves. Nevertheless, there will be no fuel shortages for years, no matter what happens.

    Minister Goebbels was just as proud of his figures. Although the growth of the Wehrmacht (and some unexpected casualties) is a steady drain on the Reich’s manpower, we still have 1.1 million men available for call up: enough for a hundred full strength divisions. And while we have increased our research capacity to give us enough scientists to run 30 projects at the one time, we still have sufficient officers to allow every unit in the Wehrmacht nearly 1.5 times the minimum requirement.

    Manufacturing capacity, however, is struggling. To meet all the contracts that are currently valid, we would need 338 industrial complexes (ICs). (The goods and services on order are listed at the end of the report.) We could meet this demand, except that we also require 25 IC to update existing formations with new equipment and training programs, as well as a further 10 IC to repair and replace damaged gear. On top of this, the civilian population need 24 IC for various luxury and non-essential goods – the last thing we need is discontent at home! Finally, there are military supplies. While the “snap-shop” of the economy shows a need of only 8 IC, we know the real figure is more in the region of 65 IC. More than 460 industrial complexes would be needed to satisfy every demand on manufacturing capacity. We currently have 220 factory parks, and through a combination of technical skills, economic legislation and the personal qualities of the Head of State, Rudolph Heß and the Armaments Minister, Hjalmar Schacht, these factories produce the equivalent of 396 complexes. So it can be seen that we are some way off our desired target.

    According to the document, we have been surviving by running down our stocks of military supplies, deferring upgrades and slowing the replacement of damaged equipment. I can just imagine the Führer’s response to the last two methods! He was an infantryman in the Great War, and has a soft spot for the common soldier. For a bureaucrat to send a soldier out with second-rate equipment would be, to him, a criminal offense. I think that the Cabinet will back him up on this, and that we will see a change of policy. Perhaps the start of the new industrial parks in the east is a sign that the policy has been “anticipated”: some bottom-covering already taking place. My prediction is that we will see a demand that the occupied territories provide more manufacturing capacity. There is no reason why they cannot take over responsibility for the consumer goods need by our population. The tighter control necessary for this will no doubt reduce volunteers, but we have plenty of men at the moment.

    In addition, I think we see some slow growth in overall industrial capacity. We have plenty of raw materials, and no prospect of running out in the foreseeable future. So there is no reason why not to increase the number of factories. This will increase our ability to change our coal into fuel, especially if more research is carried to improve the efficiency of the process. And if the factories are built in the east, it should ease our anticipated supply problems once Barbarossa gets going.

    The list of contracts extant was quite large, and I only include it for completeness. For convenience, I have split it into sections based on the “recipient”.
    • Contracts Cost Completion Date
    • Kriegsmarine
    • Aircraft Carrier “Graf Zeppelin” 10.65 15/3/41
    • Battle Cruiser “Gneisenau” 5.97 6/10/40
    • Submarine 29th U-flotille 3.44 14/9/40
    • Luftwaffe
    • STRAT KG 27 “Boelcke” 14.43 13/6/40
    • STRAT KG 28 14.94 9/11/40
    • MPF JG 7 9.63 7/4/40
    • MPF JG 20 9.63 18/7/40
    • TAC KG 51 “Edelweiß” 12.00 22/7/40
    • CAS SG 2 “Immelman” 7.06 6/6/40
    • TRA KG zbv2 17.18 10/9/40
    • Rocket Test Site 26.00 13/7/40
    • Air Base Bayonne 1.15 19/4/40
    • Air Base Note 1 5 x 1.15 24/8/40
    • Heer
    • Infantry Div 78, 79 2 x 6.65 13/4/40
    • Infantry Div 81 6.65 14/5/40
    • Infantry Div 82 6.65 15/6/40
    • Inf Brigade 68 1.92 16/5/40
    • Inf Brigade 69, 70 2x 1.92 16/6/40
    • Mot Div 20 (mot) 13.25 16/6/40
    • Mot Div 60 (mot) 12.31 1/7/40
    • Mot Div 10 (mot) 12.31 2/8/40
    • Mot Brigade 58, 59 2 x 3.95 13/7/40
    • Cavalry Div 8th SS “Florian “Geyer” 2.98 29/4/40
    • Parachute Div 2nd Fallschirmjäger 9.66 23/4/40
    • AA Brigade 25, 26 2 x 1.60 8/4/40
    • AA Brigade 28 1.60 4/5/40
    • AA Brigade 30, 31 2 x 1.60 4/6/40
    • Garrison Div 221 Sicherung 6.04 15/4/40
    • Garrison Div 143 Reserve 6.04 18/5/40
    • Panzer Div 1st Panzer 19.29 18/7/40
    • Panzer Div 2nd Panzer 19.29 28/8/40
    • Panzer Div 3rd Panzer 19.29 10/9/40
    • Industrial
    • Factories Note 2 5 x 2.85 30/10/40
    • Infrastructure Note 3 3 x 0.57 4/8/40
    • Infrastructure Note 4 11 x 0.57 17/8/40
    • Infrastructure Note 5 18 x 0.57 18/8/40
    • Infrastructure Note 6 2 x 0.57 20/8/40
    • Infrastructure Note 7 5 x 0.57 25/8/40
    • Infrastructure Note 8 3 x 0.57 28/10/40


    Note 1: Suwalki, Memel, Warszawa, Przemysl, Kraków, Innsbruck
    Note 2: Memel, Breslau, Brno. Ostrava. Königsberg
    Note 3: Bayonne, St-Jean-Pierre-de-Port, Orthez
    Note 4: Memel, Silute, Grajewo, Lomza, Ostrów Mazowiecka, Gorlice, Ozenna, Tyrawa Woloska, Namyslów, Wieruszów, Wielun, Zdunska Wola
    Note 5: Suwalki, Augustów, Bialystok, Sokolów, Bielsk Podlaski, Wlodawa, Chelm, Lódz, Warka, Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Warszawa, Prusków, Poznan, Slupca, Konin, Wloclawek, Plock, Kutno
    Note 6: Swietlowice, Zory
    Note 7: Innsbruck, Lienz, Matrei in Österreich, Wolfsberg, Sölden
    Note 8: Pamplona, Irún, Hecho




    Upgrading railways in Poland: the tracks seem to head east forever


    Bombing Summary

    Luftwaffe

    Brcko: Kitzinger with 3rd Kampffliegerkorps (2 x Ju 88): 178
    Osijek: Grauert with 4th Kampffliegerkorps (1 x Bf 109E4, 2 x Ju 88): 202
    Estella: Kesselring with 1st Schlachtfliegerkorps (2 x Ju 87B): 94
    Estella: Kesselring with 1st Schlachtfliegerkorps, 6th Kampffliegerkorps (2 x Ju 87B, 1 x Bf 109E4, 2 x Ju 88): 285, 229
    Guipúzcoa: Sperrle with 1st Kampfffliegerkorps (1 x Bf 109E4, 2 x Ju 88): 150
    Estella: Dörstling with 6th Kampffliegerkorps (1 x Bf 109E4, 2 x Ju 88): 96, 264, 242, 184, 191, 154
    Zavidovici: Kitzinger with 3rd and 4th Kampffliegerkorps (1 x Bf 109E4, 4 x Ju 88): 117
    Guipúzcoa: Sperrle with 1st Kampffliegerkorps, 1st Schlachtfliegerkorps (1 x Bf 109E4, 2 x Ju 88, 2 x Ju 87B): 301, 294
    Zavidovici: Kitzinger with 3rd Kampffliegerkorps (2 x Ju 88): 91
    Argelès-Gazost: Löhr with 2nd Schlachtfliegerkorps (2 x Ju 87B): 131, 82
    Guipúzcoa: Kesselring with 1st Schlachtfliegerkorps (2 x Ju 87B): 66, 146, 184
    Jaca: Sperrle with 1st Kampffliegerkorps (1 x Bf 109E4, 2 x Ju 88): 151, 277, 258
    Korcula: Kitzinger with 3rd Kampffliegerkorps (2 x Ju 88): 156



    Supply and fuel are still a concern in Bayonne, even after hundreds of tonnes were delivered by 1st Truppentransporterluftflotte


    FARE

    Pamplona: Camacho Benítez with 1er and 2o Grupo Táctico: 90
    Pamplona: Bargo Giraud with 4 x TAC: 132, 74, 94


    Unterseebootsflotte Activity Report

    Horseshoe Seamount: 1 transport (UK): Dover - Kuala Belait: Wolf with 4th Unterseebootsflotte
    East Azores: 2 transports (UK): Dover – Berbera: Aßmann with 1st U-flotte
    Gibraltar Approaches: 1 transport (UK): Dover – Kuching: Wolf with 4th U-flotte
    Eastern Biscay Plain: 1 transport (UK): Plymouth – Tarawa: Dönitz with 2nd U-flotte
    Coast of Cádiz: 1 transport, 2 escorts (Spanish): Cádiz – Boston: Wolf with 4th U-flotte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enewald View Post
    And into Castille, Navarra is yours!
    It is all mine, all the way to Grenada!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoemsiBoemsie View Post
    Hi Uriah, I havent posted for a while because of RL, but nice to see the AAR going so nicely. Spain is always difficult I find, too big and to harsh to fight. Also hard to protect. Not worth the effort.

    Anyway, all the best!
    You are not the first to question my decision: that would be me!

    I have always wanted to see how tough it would be: now everyone will find out.

    And it is not Spain that is the objective: it is Gibraltar and Med.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forster View Post
    I think you may be surprised by Gibraltar, unless SF has really improved British desire to protect. I usually find the Brits out trying to help shore up the Spaniards, so you can often cut most of the force off from the Rock and make several attacks in series to take out what little forces remain. BUT, if you want to get it without letting the cost get prohibitive, you will have to take control of the attacks. The ai always wants more and will sit there and wait while Britain pours reinforcements in.

    Spain really isn't that hard to defend, garrison the ports and keep some mobile units within range. Anyone attacking won't have a port and supply cause horrendous problems.
    At the moment Gibraltar doesn't have a large garrsion, but I suppose it is only a few days since I attacked. I hope you are right, but if necessary I'll bomb them into submission. And if that doesn't work, I'll send my fleet to make sure no supply or reinforcements get through.

    Quote Originally Posted by kigrwik View Post
    Well. Here we are, with a breakthrough in the line of defense. I would've thought the Pyrennées harder to cross...

    Have you computed the amount of supplies that can transit through this awfully narrow border ? I'm thinking you are a bit optimistic sending motorized units, they consume fuel and more supplies than regular infantry. In this type of rugged terrain, are they still more efficient ?

    Anyway, if I understand the supply system, I think that supplies are manufactured by IC provinces, so you should prioritize your conquests accordingly...

    I'm really looking forward to seeing how this invasion turns out !
    I haven't computed supply, mainly because it seems too hard. My feel is that I should be OK once things stabilise.

    As for the motorised and panzers, they are for the plains south. There are only a couple of mountainous areas between the Pyrenees and Gibraltar. I may send some Gebirgers to actually carry out the final assault. But I want speed to get to Gibraltar before the Brits can reinforce too much.

    And I am doing something about the supply: I just don't know if it will be enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by shepherd352 View Post
    As Germany, I have invaded Spain and the first part went well. Then supply difficulties resulted in most of my army being stranded. I had a panzer corps but the rest of my invading army was infantry. The British devoted significant forces to try to keep Spain in the fight. Victory was not in doubt but the timing was uncertain.

    I hope your invasion goes better but the start (overcrowded provinces and poor control of the air) does not bode well. You have plenty of time but you will need to use it well!
    I will rely on luck to a fair extent (my standard approach!). Victory is assured, the variable is time and casualties. It must be finished by say December, to allow time to move everything east and organise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pudd1nator View Post
    Hi Uriah, another fine update, it looks like the spearhead of your invasion has almost broken through. I guess the mot/arm gamble vs gebirgs and foot inf will pay off with a mad dash across the plains...but I also am concerned about supply, esp as was prev noted by Kigrwik and others, these units need gas as well as more supplies, further choking the few usable roads. In past games I've built a handful of cav div early (for partisan supression, later during Barbarosa) and needing to keep them busy, used them to help in spains rugged terrain.

    Building infra right behind the advance is a good idea but can clog up the production board in a jiffy with cheap but slow builds. That you project Poland will be 100% is quite impressive. can we get a screenie of what you are building sometime?

    Lastly, have you built any naval bombers? I realize your expensive fondness for the Kriegsmarine (which I share) has used a lot of IC but I have used small escorted squadrons of them to clean up the coasts enough to risk amphib assaults on gibralter while the Brits are trying to support the Spanish and their med flt was engaged by the Italians. Perhaps the SF ai is too smart to leave the back door open like that.

    Thanks again for making this such a sustained and enjoyable read and for putting up with us all trying to direct over your shoulder
    I have a few cavalry divs: I suppose if things get desperate I can send them south.

    Your wish is my command: too hard to do all the screenies so I wrote out a list: sorry for the "blob" but I can't get any formatting to stick.

    I have 4 naval geschwader: they are just about to start patrolling the Norwegian coast to find out what is there. They have been a bit if a disappointment. Maybe I am remembering how devastating they were in HOI2. In HOI3 they struggle to find anything and don't seem to do a lot of damage. Perhaps I need to do more research and get better aircraft and doctrines.

    PS Don't worry about giving advice: I need all I can get

    Quote Originally Posted by Surt View Post
    A 100% infra in all of Poland I can only approve of, I had great problems as mud/winter started and I hadn't defeated the Soviets.

    I would take a serious look at your fuel situation before building any new petrol guzzlers, like ATR and STR. Careful when looking at total use, the graph in statistics has most likely still the ship and plan use for fuel exchanged, a bug in 1.4 which I haven't seen corrected in the notes.

    You can most likely stop producing any offensive units at all now and switch to police and gar's and all kind of infra, along with fleet. I didn't really need more units as I got a lot of allies that would fight for me, in SF 2.03 you can even let them upgrade their units via the tech sharing diplomacy.
    If you plan to not overrun the Soviets in 3 months but try a longer campaign you will need loads of police if you don't take the very ahistorical occupation policy of collaboratory government (which is very efficient but makes supplies in Barbarossa a none-event.)

    I don't think there is a problem with doing Norway at the same time as Yugo(which is finished now) and Spain (dead when you get 3 provinces in), just remember to keep a reasonable large force at the Soviet border or they might backstab you.
    I have heaps of fuel: moving it is the problem. I am hoping to learn a lot in Spain: the constricted supply path could simulate the narrow supply lines I will probably have to rely on in Russia. Stopping building is not an option yet: I need a lot more boots. France gave me enough trouble and the USSR has an army at least 4 times that of France. And they seem to be doing a lot of research and upgrading.

    The warning about the sneak attack is good: I think I signed the M-R Pact in April so I have about a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakey pete View Post
    Didn't they change it in the 2.xx releases that police don't actually do anything to occupied territory?
    I hope not: must admit I don't remember it.
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    Excellent update, as always, very detailed and informative.
    I just love how your trying to cope with your logistical challenges !
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    Great update. I especially liked the detail about the fountain removal (and the synagogue and statue in a previous update).

    note: as to police and suppression - police will suppress only in occupied territories. They will do nothing in annexed provinces .

    note2: I recently got hung up in Spain myself. Gibraltar in SF often ends up with a very strong garrison since the Brits will use the withdraw command to avoid being cutoff. The answer I found after several months and 1000s of casualties was to destroy their port. After that, between stacking penalties and the out-of-supply penalty I was able to take them with one corps of engineer equipped mountaineers (Gebirswhatevers).

    Really looking forward to your Barbarossa. Have fun storming the castle!
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    Lets see if the Spaniards make it out of Navarre.

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    I'll keep checking in, because I don't want to get behind. Your updates are always wonderful reading. But, I will be somewhat distracted for a while, Starcraft II is finally out.

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