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    Oh, and that is some of the " at last anti blobbing capabilities " included in the expansion. Which can't be bad.

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    I think the whole concept of SoI could really add a new dimension to ALL Paradox games...

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    Damn it, I need more Dev diaries! MORE! Preecioussssssss diariessssssss!

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    This is awesome. I would love to be able to prevent meddling from other countries. :3

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    Besides anti-blobbing, I'm really looking forward to being able to deter other countries from conquering so-and-so before I can. Or doing something obnoxious, like guaranteeing them just before I want to declare war. Methinks I'll be doing a lot of time expanding my SoI just ahead of my prospective conquests in my warmongering games.

    Hope there's no (or little) penalty for conquering within your SoI!

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    Do you get a bonus to diplo annex a country in your sphere of influence? Does it give trade benefits in their CoT or any other form of economic boost?

    Is there a kind of cassus belli that allows you to take provinces from a country in your sphere of influence? If you go to war with a country in your sphere do you lose the sphere?

    If the country in your sphere gets too powerful, does it break free?

    Can player-controlled countries be placed in AI spheres of influence and, if so, how does that limit what we can do?

    Will certain countries start the game already within the sphere of influence of others?

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    This is just awesome... nothing to add, pretty much everything EU3 needs and the expansion will even consist of more o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan View Post
    They can refuse that as much as your average Italian citystate could refuse France..
    Too bad there isn't an ability to seduce rulers and use the softer (manipulative) side of diplomacy.

    Perhaps if monarch's had a "charm or persuasiveness" level we could use it for a select set of diplomatic options. Think creativly - seduction. Also, perhaps there could even be one or two diplomatic options available for females only. For example the Duchess of Milan as a female ruler could have the ability to make the King of France, as a male monarch, her mistress. This could yield a specific bonus - ie: preventing a DoW, prestige, increased DIP bonus when dealing with the specific country. The only difference is that, in this particular situation the option should only be available to be used on one country at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DominusNovus View Post
    Hope there's no (or little) penalty for conquering within your SoI!
    That would counter the anti-blobing effect, doesn't it?

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    That would counter the anti-blobing effect, doesn't it?
    Somewhat, but I figure the SoIs would counter blobbing by discouraging others from conquering states, or even setting up the circumstances with which they would start a war.

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    A nice historical touch there and hopefully a good addition.

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    Will it replace the proclaim guarantee option or be proclaim guarantee +?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DominusNovus View Post
    Somewhat, but I figure the SoIs would counter blobbing by discouraging others from conquering states, or even setting up the circumstances with which they would start a war.
    Seems to me that placing someone under your SoI is basically saying "I'll annex you in a bit, just need to tie up a few loose ends at home". Just like in reality.

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    Actually, what advantage does a guarantee have over an SoI, other than no prestige cost? An SoI provides all the same advantages, and more, in regards to scaring others off.

    I'd like to see what the differences are in terms of your own actions towards the country in question. Or, if Paradox is going to tweak guarantees (and other diplomatic options) a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeDub View Post
    Seems to me that placing someone under your SoI is basically saying "I'll annex you in a bit, just need to tie up a few loose ends at home". Just like in reality.
    I think a SoI is more like a sign stay out of my backyard to other great powers than a 'I'm gonna annex you' towards the country itself, more a 'do as you please, as long as you do what I want'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubnessul View Post
    more a 'do as you please, as long as you do what I want'
    Souns like a vassal to me...

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    This seems like a "Send Warning" but it costs prestige and gain rewards?

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    Looks interesting, I can't wait to hear more about these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodscouterr View Post
    Souns like a vassal to me...
    It brings to mind the napoleonic era "client kingdoms" (since its too early to consider them to be satellites).

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    The SoI gives a CB on anyone who "meddels" with them... what about the actual "meddeling"? Is there a reduced chance that other states will try to manipulate your SoI's? Will the AI know that it's setting itself up for problems if it requests mil access from an SoI?

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